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  1. My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    ..22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  2. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing.
    I've never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using
    pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy
    at best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357
    revolver, a .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any
    trouble killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    Sounds fun. Target shooting is a great sport. I take my kids shooting all
    the time. And I have fond memories of shooting with my Dad.
    --
    -Larry

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    It was probably a GP100 would be my guess. I good gun for a good price.
    I tad more $$$ gets you a SnW 686 in .357 which is even better.

    Quoted message said:


    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...

    Revolvers are by their nature more accurate then semi auto and require
    less work to be a decent shot. Both have pros and cons.

    Quoted message said:

    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs.

    A good sized wild hog would stick that .45 where the sun don't shine
    before he stomped all over you. Not recommended as a wild hog gun,
    unless they are small.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    See above.

    Quoted message said:


    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    So get yourself a lisence and join a range.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  4. "WillBrink" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs.

    A good sized wild hog would stick that .45 where the sun don't shine
    before he stomped all over you. Not recommended as a wild hog gun,
    unless they are small.

    I don't know. You theoretically could anchor a charging hog with a NAA .22
    Short Mini Revolver, with a one-in-a-million shot placement, but no one
    would count on it. OTOH, the hog could kill you, with a double rifle in .460
    Weatherby Magnum and poor shot placement.

    I think it comes down to the skill of the shooter under stress. An all steel
    ..45, a handloaded max pressure cartridge, and a heavy solid deep-penetrating
    bullet, might be just fine in the right hands.

    Not my hands, mind you.

    David

  5. On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:53:29 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    Outstanding!

    Quoted message said:


    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    I've got a Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag and I love it.

    Quoted message said:


    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    My Dan Wesson .357 is very accurate also.

    Quoted message said:


    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    Give me a Hell Yeah!

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Larry Hodges said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing.
    I've never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using
    pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy
    at best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357
    revolver, a .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any
    trouble killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    Sounds fun. Target shooting is a great sport. I take my kids shooting all
    the time. And I have fond memories of shooting with my Dad.

    Ah yes, forgot to mention that Dad was with me. <lol>
    Am considering that 9mm as his B-day gift since it is coming up on the
    20th........

    It'd been awhile since we'd gone shooting together and he had a good
    time as well, but had mis-placed his earmuffs so had to use plugs. I
    HATE those things! I bought him a new pair of muffs this morning. ;-)

    I had mine in the closet in the same place for years. That is one item I
    try not to mis-place!

    My deer rifle is a Winchester 308.

    Quite loud.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    It was probably a GP100 would be my guess. I good gun for a good price.
    I tad more $$$ gets you a SnW 686 in .357 which is even better.

    He said it ran him about $400.00+.

    What I liked about it is that I could actually hit what I was aiming at
    within 2" to 3" and my grouping was nice.

    That'd be crappy for my skill with a rifle, but not bad for my
    inexperience with pistols.

    50 yards is pretty close, but a good distance for a beginner AFAIK?

    I need more practice! Besides, it's fun to spend a day blowing [censored] up.

    Right? ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...

    Revolvers are by their nature more accurate then semi auto and require
    less work to be a decent shot. Both have pros and cons.

    So I've been told.
    I know diddly about pistols so am in the process of educating myself.

    Now I get to learn how to clean one too.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs.

    A good sized wild hog would stick that .45 where the sun don't shine
    before he stomped all over you. Not recommended as a wild hog gun,
    unless they are small.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    See above.

    <lol>
    He does not hunt wild hogs with that pistol!
    It's just a backup weapon. I'm pretty sure he uses a rifle, but I did
    not ask which one.

    Personally, I'd like to help him butcher one out. Wild pig is leaner and
    supposed to be superior to domestic hog.

    Deer is ok, but there is only so much you can do with it...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    So get yourself a lisence and join a range.

    Why?

    I can see the sense in getting a conceal and carry license, but the
    closest indoor pistol range charges $12.00 per hour per person!

    If I can go out to Terry's or Nathan's and shoot for free, why should I
    pay? I can get my own targets at Wal mart and a measuring tape. ;-)
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Cohen said:

    "WillBrink" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs.

    A good sized wild hog would stick that .45 where the sun don't shine
    before he stomped all over you. Not recommended as a wild hog gun,
    unless they are small.

    I don't know. You theoretically could anchor a charging hog with a NAA .22
    Short Mini Revolver, with a one-in-a-million shot placement, but no one
    would count on it. OTOH, the hog could kill you, with a double rifle in .460
    Weatherby Magnum and poor shot placement.

    I think it comes down to the skill of the shooter under stress. An all steel
    .45, a handloaded max pressure cartridge, and a heavy solid deep-penetrating
    bullet, might be just fine in the right hands.

    Not my hands, mind you.

    David

    And with a good aim and no panic... ;-)

    I've never gone wild pig hunting.

    How about a spear? <lol>

    All I know is that that .45 was damn fun to fire!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Hanson said:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:53:29 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    Outstanding!

    The .22 mag was for sale for $150.00.
    My housemate bought it. <G>

    I have yet to fire it and it has 2 cylinders.
    One for .22 LR and one for .22 mag.

    Nice pistol, but I'm still drooling now for that .357!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    I've got a Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag and I love it.

    I've been told that S&W or Taurus is good, but I'm thinking that
    spending the money on a Ruger is a better idea!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    My Dan Wesson .357 is very accurate also.

    I liked it. ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    Give me a Hell Yeah!

    You live in Texas?

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  10. On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:16:24 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Hanson said:

    On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 00:53:29 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    <[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

    Quoted message said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    Outstanding!

    The .22 mag was for sale for $150.00.
    My housemate bought it. <G>

    I have yet to fire it and it has 2 cylinders.
    One for .22 LR and one for .22 mag.

    Nice pistol, but I'm still drooling now for that .357!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    I've got a Ruger Redhawk .44 Mag and I love it.

    I've been told that S&W or Taurus is good, but I'm thinking that
    spending the money on a Ruger is a better idea!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    My Dan Wesson .357 is very accurate also.

    I liked it. ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    Give me a Hell Yeah!

    You live in Texas?


    No

  11. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Larry Hodges said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing.
    I've never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using
    pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy
    at best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357
    revolver, a .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a
    larger caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I
    WANT that Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell
    me where he got it tho'. ;-)

    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...
    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs. I don't think he'd have any
    trouble killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    Sounds fun. Target shooting is a great sport. I take my kids
    shooting all the time. And I have fond memories of shooting with my
    Dad.

    Ah yes, forgot to mention that Dad was with me. <lol>
    Am considering that 9mm as his B-day gift since it is coming up on the
    20th........

    Those are times both of you will remember until the end of your days. I
    don't know why shooting is that way, but it is.

    Quoted message said:

    It'd been awhile since we'd gone shooting together and he had a good
    time as well, but had mis-placed his earmuffs so had to use plugs. I
    HATE those things! I bought him a new pair of muffs this morning. ;-)

    I had mine in the closet in the same place for years. That is one
    item I try not to mis-place!

    My deer rifle is a Winchester 308.

    Quite loud.

    I consider the 308 to be the ultimate deer rifle. It's one of the most
    accurate calibers you can have, and it's just the right size for deer. I
    still have mine from when I was a kid. My kids now hunt with it. I would
    still be hunting with it, but I inherited my Dad's rifle, a 30.06 Husqvarna
    purchased in the mid 40s. It's a very high end rifle and I've taken elk at
    520 yards with it. 🙂

    I've been told this rifle is quite valuable. The stock is some of the
    nicest Walnut I have ever seen. And it hasn't had more than 300 rounds shot
    through it.
    --
    -Larry

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing. I've
    never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!

    To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver, a
    .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.

    We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    got it tho'. ;-)

    It was probably a GP100 would be my guess. I good gun for a good price.
    I tad more $$$ gets you a SnW 686 in .357 which is even better.

    He said it ran him about $400.00+.

    I tad more new. I fine .357, but SnW 686 is still better. I have had
    both.

    Quoted message said:


    What I liked about it is that I could actually hit what I was aiming at
    within 2" to 3" and my grouping was nice.

    That'd be crappy for my skill with a rifle, but not bad for my
    inexperience with pistols.

    50 yards is pretty close, but a good distance for a beginner AFAIK?

    I need more practice! Besides, it's fun to spend a day blowing [censored] up.

    Right? ;-)

    No comment.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...

    Revolvers are by their nature more accurate then semi auto and require
    less work to be a decent shot. Both have pros and cons.

    So I've been told.
    I know diddly about pistols so am in the process of educating myself.

    Then a revolver is the way to go for a first gun.

    Quoted message said:


    Now I get to learn how to clean one too.

    Some people actually look forward to that part.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    when they go hunting for wild hogs.

    A good sized wild hog would stick that .45 where the sun don't shine
    before he stomped all over you. Not recommended as a wild hog gun,
    unless they are small.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think he'd have any trouble
    killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    Then you don't know how tough wild pigs are and how under powered
    handguns actually are.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    See above.

    <lol>
    He does not hunt wild hogs with that pistol!
    It's just a backup weapon. I'm pretty sure he uses a rifle, but I did
    not ask which one.

    Personally, I'd like to help him butcher one out. Wild pig is leaner and
    supposed to be superior to domestic hog.

    Deer is ok, but there is only so much you can do with it...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!

    Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    I don't care. It was worth it!

    So get yourself a lisence and join a range.

    Why?

    Why do you think?

    Quoted message said:


    I can see the sense in getting a conceal and carry license, but the
    closest indoor pistol range charges $12.00 per hour per person!

    If I can go out to Terry's or Nathan's and shoot for free, why should I
    pay? I can get my own targets at Wal mart and a measuring tape. ;-)

    Free men own guns, slaves don't.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Larry Hodges said:
    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,


    <snipped>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Ah yes, forgot to mention that Dad was with me. <lol>
    Am considering that 9mm as his B-day gift since it is coming up on the
    20th........

    Those are times both of you will remember until the end of your days. I
    don't know why shooting is that way, but it is.

    Oh I remember wayyyyy back!
    Dad used to take us out to the boondocks in California while I was
    growing up. You could target practice on national forest property if you
    drove long enough! His motto was "remeber the Sabbath day to keep it
    Holey". <lol> It was a family joke. :-)

    Lots of good memories so I know what you mean.

    Most of the property in Texas is privately owned so it's nice to have
    finally made a friend that has property we can shoot at without paying
    range fees.

    And it's more fun somehow!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    It'd been awhile since we'd gone shooting together and he had a good
    time as well, but had mis-placed his earmuffs so had to use plugs. I
    HATE those things! I bought him a new pair of muffs this morning. ;-)

    I had mine in the closet in the same place for years. That is one
    item I try not to mis-place!

    My deer rifle is a Winchester 308.

    Quite loud.

    I consider the 308 to be the ultimate deer rifle. It's one of the most
    accurate calibers you can have, and it's just the right size for deer. I
    still have mine from when I was a kid. My kids now hunt with it. I would
    still be hunting with it, but I inherited my Dad's rifle, a 30.06 Husqvarna
    purchased in the mid 40s. It's a very high end rifle and I've taken elk at
    520 yards with it. 🙂

    Cool!

    Dad's loudes rifle ever was a Mauser.
    I think he sold that one several years ago.

    I've never hunted elk. Might have to do something about that. Where do
    you hunt them? Colorado?

    Quoted message said:


    I've been told this rifle is quite valuable. The stock is some of the
    nicest Walnut I have ever seen. And it hasn't had more than 300 rounds shot
    through it.

    Jpegs?
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    <snipped>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I'm jealous.

    Me too. (I own a .22 Mossberg which I've had for 30 years which is in
    reasonable condition for it's age - same as the owner)

    What other pistols do you enjoy using on the range?

    An interesting note, after firing that Ruger .357 over the weekend, one
    just became available by private sale last night for an excellent price.

    Coincidence???
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    <snipped>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I'm jealous.

    Me too. (I own a .22 Mossberg which I've had for 30 years which is in
    reasonable condition for it's age - same as the owner)

    What other pistols do you enjoy using on the range?

    An interesting note, after firing that Ruger .357 over the weekend, one
    just became available by private sale last night for an excellent price.

    Coincidence???

    I paid $275 for a used one if that helps.

    --
    Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

  16. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > My forearms, especially my right forearm, are a bit sore tonight.
    > Spent 3 solid hours at a friend's ranch property target practicing.
    > I've
    > never gotten sore from rifles but today we were mostly using pistols!
    >
    > To date, I'd never fired any pistol larger than a .22 caliber. Wimpy at
    > best, but today I got to check out a 9mm Glock, a Ruger .357 revolver,
    > a
    > .22 magnum revolver and a Ruger .45 SA.
    >
    > We had a blast and even tho' I was a bit nervous about firing a larger
    > caliber pistol for the first time, I quickly got over it. I WANT that
    > Ruger .357 revolver, but it was not for sale. He did tell me where he
    > got it tho'. ;-)

    It was probably a GP100 would be my guess. I good gun for a good price.
    I tad more $$$ gets you a SnW 686 in .357 which is even better.

    He said it ran him about $400.00+.

    I tad more new. I fine .357, but SnW 686 is still better. I have had
    both.

    He said he bought it new at Academy and paid a little over $400.00 for
    it.

    So, you think S&W is better than Ruger?

    Why?

    Not being argumentative, I'm just still learning. ;-)

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    What I liked about it is that I could actually hit what I was aiming at
    within 2" to 3" and my grouping was nice.

    That'd be crappy for my skill with a rifle, but not bad for my
    inexperience with pistols.

    50 yards is pretty close, but a good distance for a beginner AFAIK?

    I need more practice! Besides, it's fun to spend a day blowing [censored] up.

    Right? ;-)

    No comment.

    Heh.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    >
    > My accuracy was best with the .357 revolver...

    Revolvers are by their nature more accurate then semi auto and require
    less work to be a decent shot. Both have pros and cons.

    So I've been told.
    I know diddly about pistols so am in the process of educating myself.

    Then a revolver is the way to go for a first gun.

    Quoted message said:


    Now I get to learn how to clean one too.

    Some people actually look forward to that part.

    I do. Had to buy a new kit. Dad had mis-placed his.
    Have not had time yet due to my work schedule but I sure as heck want to
    clean them well before we use them again.

    I'm mechanically inclined so not terribly worried.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > and not too bad with the .45. He said he uses the .45 as his sidearm
    > when they go hunting for wild hogs.

    A good sized wild hog would stick that .45 where the sun don't shine
    before he stomped all over you. Not recommended as a wild hog gun,
    unless they are small.

    > I don't think he'd have any trouble
    > killing a wild pig with that thing.......

    Then you don't know how tough wild pigs are and how under powered
    handguns actually are.

    I've never hunted pigs, but I have raised them back in high school when
    I was in FFA. Yeah, their tough but a good head shot will still put them
    down. And, he does not hunt the pigs with that pistol. It's just for
    backup.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    See above.

    <lol>
    He does not hunt wild hogs with that pistol!
    It's just a backup weapon. I'm pretty sure he uses a rifle, but I did
    not ask which one.

    Personally, I'd like to help him butcher one out. Wild pig is leaner and
    supposed to be superior to domestic hog.

    Deer is ok, but there is only so much you can do with it...

    Quoted message said:


    >
    > Did a number on the aluminum cans to say the least!
    >
    > Fun day. :-) And relaxing but it's a bit difficult to type.
    > I don't care. It was worth it!

    So get yourself a lisence and join a range.

    Why?

    Why do you think?

    My question was about spending the dough to join a range when we could
    set up a range out at the ranch property and shoot for free, except for
    providing our own targets.

    The closest indoor pistol range charges $12.00.

    Per hour.

    Per person.

    I could buy a lot of ammo. and targets for that.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    I can see the sense in getting a conceal and carry license, but the
    closest indoor pistol range charges $12.00 per hour per person!

    If I can go out to Terry's or Nathan's and shoot for free, why should I
    pay? I can get my own targets at Wal mart and a measuring tape. ;-)

    Free men own guns, slaves don't.

    Duh. ;-)
    You are preaching to the choir......
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  17. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    "John Hanson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...


    <snipped>

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > I'm jealous.

    Me too. (I own a .22 Mossberg which I've had for 30 years which is in
    reasonable condition for it's age - same as the owner)

    What other pistols do you enjoy using on the range?

    An interesting note, after firing that Ruger .357 over the weekend, one
    just became available by private sale last night for an excellent price.

    Coincidence???

    I paid $275 for a used one if that helps.

    Yes, it does.
    Thank you!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    WillBrink <[email hidden]> wrote:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Revolvers are by their nature more accurate then semi auto and require
    less work to be a decent shot. Both have pros and cons.

    So I've been told.

    Some of that is the firearms equivalent of urban legend.
    Theoretically speaking: Semi-automatic pistols of good design and
    manufacture are potentially capable of greater accuracy than
    revolvers due to their sealed breech. And, in fact, partly for this
    reason, most high-end target pistols are either single-shot or
    semi-automatic.

    For the average service pistol, experience seems to be that most
    revolvers are "more accurate" out of the box than most semi-autos.
    But if you're looking for a service arm, it's important to remember
    that the overwhelming number of pistol combat scenarios play out at a
    distance of 7 meters or less. Doesn't take much accuracy to place a
    double-tap in the brisket at 25 feet 😉. Of much more importance is
    a sidearm with which you feel comfortable and can shoot well.

    Revolvers are *much* easier to tune than semi-automatics, as a rule.

    Quoted message said:

    I know diddly about pistols so am in the process of educating myself.


    [snip]

    I always urge newbies to start off with revolvers. They're easier to
    understand and operate. They have the added advantage that, during
    training, you can randomly load a couple snap-caps or spent shell
    casings and cure yourself of flinch 😉. You can do that with semi-
    autos, too, with snap-caps, but with a revolver you don't have to
    manually rack-out the "dud." Also: No brass to police with a
    revolver.

    --
    Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
    WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
    spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
    [email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

  19. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    WillBrink said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > got it tho'. ;-)
    > >
    > > It was probably a GP100 would be my guess. I good gun for a good
    > > price.
    > > I tad more $$$ gets you a SnW 686 in .357 which is even better.
    >
    > He said it ran him about $400.00+.

    I tad more new. I fine .357, but SnW 686 is still better. I have had
    both.

    He said he bought it new at Academy and paid a little over $400.00 for
    it.

    Sounds about right. You didnt mention the model, but I can only conclude
    we are talking about the GP100.

    Yes, sorry!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    So, you think S&W is better than Ruger?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:


    Why?

    SnW makes many different .357's where as Ruger makes just a few models.
    I am talking about the SnW 686 myself, and it's considered better by
    most due to things like trigger mechanism, accuracy, fit n finish, and
    so on. The Ruger is a well made rugged gun and many people love them
    fine. You cant go wrong with it really and the price is usually quite
    good on the used market.

    The guy selling this one wants $357.00 for it.
    I found the price to be amusing. He says it's had less than 200 rounds
    put thru it.

    I will, of course, check it out before purchase!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Not being argumentative, I'm just still learning. ;-)

    We are all learning. You are smart to make a rugged .357 revolver your
    first handgun. BTW, you can shoot .38 through it and save $$$ with less
    recoil.

    So I've been told, thanks!
    That will save me a lot of $$$ on ammo for target practice.

    The guy that we've started shooting with (the property is his) is also
    talking about getting a skeet launcher. I've never shot skeet and it
    sounds like fun! Dad has a 20 guage for that and he says he has done it
    in the past and enjoys it also.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    > Now I get to learn how to clean one too.

    Some people actually look forward to that part.

    I do. Had to buy a new kit. Dad had mis-placed his.
    Have not had time yet due to my work schedule but I sure as heck want to
    clean them well before we use them again.

    I'm mechanically inclined so not terribly worried.

    Revolvers are easier to clean and much more forgiving then semi auto
    when dirty.

    I can imagine! Less complicated and fewer moving parts.
    I do need to take apart the Iver Johnson .22 SA tho'. It was not firing
    well at all. It was not kicking every shell like it should have, and it
    looks like there may be a problem with the firing pin. It kept
    mis-firing on a random basis and the shells that misfired were not
    showing much of a rim punch.

    It was cleaned and oiled well last time it was used, but it's been
    sitting in a drawer for a couple of years without any additional
    maintenance.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I've never hunted pigs, but I have raised them back in high school when
    I was in FFA. Yeah, their tough but a good head shot will still put them
    down. And, he does not hunt the pigs with that pistol. It's just for
    backup.

    Never ever count on a head shot, unless it's tied up in front of you.
    The noise, recoil, and TV, lead people to think handguns must be pretty
    darn powerful, but they are not actually. For example, I knew a guy who
    shot a racoon with a .45. It flipped over once, landed on its feet, and
    charged him. Clamped onto his leg, where he then had to shoot it 2 more
    times to kill it. He was then off to the ER with the dead coon for
    tests.

    Racoons are pretty tough animals!
    When I shoot them in a trap, I generally aim for right between the eyes.
    Of course that's not the same if they are "loose" like you said!

    Quoted message said:

    Animals often have plenty left in them to come after you when
    shot unless through vital areas, which one can not ever count on. Many
    cops have shot tough dogs like a Pit Bull with a handgun thinking the
    dog would fall over dead only to find out just how though those dogs are
    when [censored]. I do know someone who was run up a tree after shooting
    a big male wild hog that turned and charged after being shot with a high
    powered rifle.

    Pigs are well known to be dangerous. ;-)
    What caliber of rifle would you recommend?
    I don't know what Nathan uses. I did not ask.
    I've never hunted wild hogs, but would like to.
    Feral pigs are common around here. I'm not really
    interested in Javalina.

    He does more deer tho' and I did offer to help him butcher for a share
    of the meat.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    My question was about spending the dough to join a range when we could
    set up a range out at the ranch property and shoot for free, except for
    providing our own targets.

    Sounds good. In TX I guess you can buy what you want without a lisence
    and there is lots of open places to shoot. Here we need a lisence to buy
    a sling shot and big open spaces to shoot with the cops showing up are
    few. It might still be nice to have a CCW lisence if you ever wanted to
    carry.

    Ew. Where do you live?

    And yes, there are plenty of private guns sales available!
    You don't need a license to buy a gun, but you do need one to
    carry one concealed or otherwise unless you are hunting, then
    you'd better have a hunting license!

    I was buying some ammo. at Wal-mart a couple of days ago and they
    actually had a small but decent selection of rifles and shotguns.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Runs With Knives) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    WillBrink <[email hidden]> wrote:


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Revolvers are by their nature more accurate then semi auto and require
    less work to be a decent shot. Both have pros and cons.

    So I've been told.

    Some of that is the firearms equivalent of urban legend.
    Theoretically speaking: Semi-automatic pistols of good design and
    manufacture are potentially capable of greater accuracy than
    revolvers due to their sealed breech. And, in fact, partly for this
    reason, most high-end target pistols are either single-shot or
    semi-automatic.

    Well, I found out on Sunday that I was ok with both the .357 revolver
    and the .45 SA.

    Seems for me anyway that it's the SIZE and WEIGHT of the pistol that
    helped me be more accurate! My .22 Iver Johnson will fit across my open
    hand. It's tiny and light and I can barely hit anything with it. :-( I
    know that I can learn with patience and practice, but with the two
    larger pistols, I found it far easier to be more accurate.

    I'm not really intersted in a .45 at this point in time tho'.
    It was fun to fire it...... ;-)

    The new .22 magnum revolver that my dad bought looks interesting but
    I've not fired it yet. It's a medium sized gun, a chrome plated F.I.E.
    which is a brand I'd never heard of before. It came with two cylinders,
    one for magnums and one for LR's. They guy only wanted $150.00 for it
    and it's in excellent condition.

    Quoted message said:


    For the average service pistol, experience seems to be that most
    revolvers are "more accurate" out of the box than most semi-autos.
    But if you're looking for a service arm, it's important to remember
    that the overwhelming number of pistol combat scenarios play out at a
    distance of 7 meters or less. Doesn't take much accuracy to place a
    double-tap in the brisket at 25 feet 😉. Of much more importance is
    a sidearm with which you feel comfortable and can shoot well.

    I understand.

    Quoted message said:


    Revolvers are *much* easier to tune than semi-automatics, as a rule.

    Quoted message said:

    I know diddly about pistols so am in the process of educating myself.


    [snip]

    I always urge newbies to start off with revolvers. They're easier to
    understand and operate. They have the added advantage that, during
    training, you can randomly load a couple snap-caps or spent shell
    casings and cure yourself of flinch 😉. You can do that with semi-
    autos, too, with snap-caps, but with a revolver you don't have to
    manually rack-out the "dud." Also: No brass to police with a
    revolver.

    Funny, I had not considered that aspect. :-) You are right!
    We did keep up with cleaning up our brass all day.... except for a lot
    of the .22 shells.

    Thanks!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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