Tanking

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I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

I hit the bong.... ;-)

Cheers,

Scott...

S. Anderson said:

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I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

I hit the bong.... ;-)

Cheers,

Scott...

You're a SEAL who dropped out of BUDS?

-B

"Class 147 was only the third BUDS class to earn the "no bell" prize, so named because any student
can ring a brass bell three times if he wants to quit. "The class has to be really tight, with good
leaders and good students, to win the 'no bell,' " said Simet. "In this class we had strong officers
who the men looked up to a lot. That helped them pull through Hell Week without anybody quitting."

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I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

floatation.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Cycling can be a very relaxing passtime, but a very demanding sport at the upper levels (master of
understatement, here, lol)

I'm wondering at the idea of a tank in the RV for RAAM events and stuff,

in

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addition to the massage therapy. Of course it might be pricey, but I'm talking theory and stuff.

Off to ride 0824, 30deg C, and cloudy...

I've done it ... but not with any fancy equipment. I mean, do you need anything major? I used to
just take a bath, shut the lights off and put on some good music.

Personally if I was going to spend money I would spend it on a Jacuzzi.

C.Q.C.

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Badger_South said:

I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

floatation.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Cycling can be a very relaxing passtime, but a very demanding sport at the upper levels (master of
understatement, here, lol)

I'm wondering at the idea of a tank in the RV for RAAM events and stuff, in addition to the
massage therapy. Of course it might be pricey, but I'm talking theory and stuff.

I really don't know, but you piqued my curiosity. Googling around turned up this:
fht.org.uka sports massage.htmOpen ↗

which refers to experiment results published by the British Journal of Sports Medicine (April 2000),
pertaining to the efficacy of sports massage, particularly in reduction of lactate levels. I Googled
around a little more on that particular report. The results of this (I believe inconclusive)
experiment seem to suggest that sports massage is no more effective at reducing blood lactate levels
than passive rest, and active warm-down techniques may be more effective than either.

Since we're disregarding cost, I also looked into hyperbaric oxygen chambers, which don't seem
terribly useful in terms of post-ride recovery. Maybe they might have some use for high altitude
acclimatization, or recovery from some types of injury.

To rejuvenate the body, a nice dinner followed by a snooze works for me :-)

cheers, Tom

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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:33:31 -0800, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Badger_South said:

I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

floatation.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Cycling can be a very relaxing passtime, but a very demanding sport at the upper levels (master
of understatement, here, lol)

I'm wondering at the idea of a tank in the RV for RAAM events and stuff, in addition to the
massage therapy. Of course it might be pricey, but I'm talking theory and stuff.

I really don't know, but you piqued my curiosity. Googling around turned up this:
fht.org.uka sports massage.htmOpen ↗

which refers to experiment results published by the British Journal of Sports Medicine (April
2000), pertaining to the efficacy of sports massage, particularly in reduction of lactate levels.
I Googled around a little more on that particular report. The results of this (I believe
inconclusive) experiment seem to suggest that sports massage is no more effective at reducing
blood lactate levels than passive rest, and active warm-down techniques may be more effective
than either.

...but it sure is far more enjoyable. There's something to be said for that, surely--we're not just
biomechanical constructs. We like to feel good after hard effort.

Or at least some of us do.

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To rejuvenate the body, a nice dinner followed by a snooze works for me :-)

Anquetil might have said so himself. And who am I to argue with Anquetil?

-Luigi

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cheers, Tom

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Luigi de Guzman said:

...but it sure is far more enjoyable. There's something to be said for that, surely--we're not
just biomechanical constructs. We like to feel good after hard effort.

The write-up at fht.org.uka sports massage.htmOpen ↗ agrees with that (so do I):

"It is also important not to lose sight of the fact that SM is becoming increasingly popular among
professional sporting associations: during the European Cup 2000, Kevin Keegan commented that his
team would be receiving massage on those days immediately following a game. Indeed, the majority of
sporting professionals receive massage before, during or after competing in an important event.
Whether this is for the purposes of relaxation or invigoration, and whether the effects are
psychological or physiological is, in many respects, irrelevant. For many, mental preparation is as
paramount as physical ability when it comes to a good performance."

cheers, Tom

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S. Anderson said:

"Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

I hit the bong.... ;-)

Transcendental Meditation is cheaper, although it's almost as political.

Waitaminnit. I take that back.

Carry on.

cheers, Tom

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"Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

floatation.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Cycling can be a very relaxing passtime, but a very demanding sport at the upper levels (master
of understatement, here, lol)

I'm wondering at the idea of a tank in the RV for RAAM events and stuff,

in

Quoted message said:

addition to the massage therapy. Of course it might be pricey, but I'm talking theory and stuff.

Off to ride 0824, 30deg C, and cloudy...

I've done it ... but not with any fancy equipment. I mean, do you need anything major? I used to
just take a bath, shut the lights off and put on some good music.

Ah but you misapprehend tanking, maybe. It has to be a sitch where you are in a decreased tactile
environment. Thus you have to be floating in a 'coffin-like' enclosure, but with plenty of space and
the water has to be 'exactly' at a certain temp, plus the addition of epsom salts to equilibrate you
and you 'float'. (but you know this)

It may not be a thing that soaking in a hot bathtub can simulate...is all I'm suggesting.

People report weird [censored]...and the relaxation may be synergized by the brain being 'retrained',
yadda, yadda. ;->

-B

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Badger_South said:

Quoted message said:

To rejuvenate the body, a nice dinner followed by a snooze works for me :-)

Or an hour with Marge Helgenberger?

Maybe as long as one denies her one's precious bodily fluids.

With my luck, she'd probably just nag me to death, and I'd be glad to escape. Bicycles have served
me well in such circumstances.

cheers, Tom

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(Tom Keats) said:

Quoted message said:

I'm wondering at the idea of a tank in the RV for RAAM events and stuff, in addition to the
massage therapy. Of course it might be pricey, but I'm talking theory and stuff.

I really don't know, but you piqued my curiosity. Googling around turned up this:
fht.org.uka sports massage.htmOpen ↗

Some people swear by this, though. They may be doing rolfing or something like that, I'm not sure.

Quoted message said:

which refers to experiment results published by the British Journal of Sports Medicine (April
2000), pertaining to the efficacy of sports massage, particularly in reduction of lactate levels.
I Googled around a little more on that particular report. The results of this (I believe
inconclusive) experiment seem to suggest that sports massage is no more effective at reducing
blood lactate levels than passive rest, and active warm-down techniques may be more effective
than either.

Since we're disregarding cost, I also looked into hyperbaric oxygen chambers, which don't seem
terribly useful in terms of post-ride recovery. Maybe they might have some use for high altitude
acclimatization, or recovery from some types of injury.

Exactly. Hyperbarics are essential for some wound healing, such as burns. The oxygenation may not
affect the tissue respiration, or anything like 'breathing' does...

In the year 2025, we have 'Mitochondrial Re-contouring using Nanobots'.

Quoted message said:

To rejuvenate the body, a nice dinner followed by a snooze works for me :-)

Or an hour with Marge Helgenberger?

I'm just sayin'...

-B

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:40:05 -0800, [email hidden] (Tom Keats)

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Badger_South said:

Quoted message said:

To rejuvenate the body, a nice dinner followed by a snooze works for me :-)

Or an hour with Marge Helgenberger?

Maybe as long as one denies her one's precious bodily fluids.

But you never know what inspiration can come--and what conspiracies you might discover--while in the
physical act of love.

-Luigi

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAW

Quoted message said:

With my luck, she'd probably just nag me to death, and I'd be glad to escape. Bicycles have served
me well in such circumstances.

cheers, Tom

(Tom Keats) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Luigi de Guzman said:

...but it sure is far more enjoyable. There's something to be said for that, surely--we're not
just biomechanical constructs. We like to feel good after hard effort.

The write-up at fht.org.uka sports massage.htmOpen ↗ agrees with that (so do I):

"It is also important not to lose sight of the fact that SM is becoming increasingly popular among
professional sporting associations: during the European Cup 2000, Kevin Keegan commented that his
team would be receiving massage on those days immediately following a game. Indeed, the majority of
sporting professionals receive massage before, during or after competing in an important event.
Whether this is for the purposes of relaxation or invigoration, and whether the effects are
psychological or physiological is, in many respects, irrelevant. For many, mental preparation is as
paramount as physical ability when it comes to a good performance."

Remember we're talking sleep dep and the RAAM in the OP. Some of the guys were actually asleep (or
comatose, lol) during the sessions, IIRC.

-B

Badger_South said:

I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

floatation.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Funny, a guy at my yoga class just mentioned this to me, and the place he recommended is listed via
your link! (Unfortunately, there's no phone # and their website is either down or dead.)

At $30 for 90 minutes, sure sounds like it would be worth a go.

Bill "loves hitting the hot tub after rides" S.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 22:16:25 GMT, "S o r n i" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Badger_South said:

I'm wondering if anybody does any special relaxation techniques to rejuvenate the body, such as
tanking?

floatation.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Funny, a guy at my yoga class just mentioned this to me, and the place he recommended is listed via
your link! (Unfortunately, there's no phone # and their website is either down or dead.)

At $30 for 90 minutes, sure sounds like it would be worth a go.

Bill "loves hitting the hot tub after rides" S.

Just be careful. It's a sensory dep tank and for your first session, it can be very nice, or it can
get intense, though rarely unpleasant.

Typically ppl love it.

I'd suggest that they come check on you periodically, like after the first few minutes and then at
30 and 60. Ask. They'll know better than I.

-B

"Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote <snip>

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Ah but you misapprehend tanking, maybe. It has to be a sitch where you are in a decreased tactile
environment. Thus you have to be floating in a 'coffin-like' enclosure, but with plenty of space
and the water has to be 'exactly' at a certain temp, plus the addition of epsom salts to
equilibrate you and you 'float'. (but you know this)

It may not be a thing that soaking in a hot bathtub can simulate...is all I'm suggesting.

People report weird [censored]...and the relaxation may be synergized by the brain being 'retrained',
yadda, yadda. ;->

Actually, the movie "Altered States" is what gave me the idea to try it in the first place. Of
course, in those days I would also supplement my experiences with *other* stuff (c: That
helped I'm sure.

C.Q.C.