Tandem Trikes?

They're not cheap, but they're comfortable. You may want to look at some of these:
www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?category=106000

Brian

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I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and her husband who recently
had a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

Thanks in advance.

Nate

Thanks!

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They're not cheap, but they're comfortable. You may want to look at some

of

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these: www.hostelshoppe.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?category=106000

Brian

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I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and

her

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husband who recently had a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

Thanks in advance.

Nate

Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:55:45 -0700, <[email hidden]>, "N8"

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I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and her husband who recently had
a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

Might be good for flat land recreational and utility cycling.
worksman.compav sbs tritandemprices.htmOpen ↗
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I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and her husband who recently
had a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

Thanks in advance.

You could try a recumbent. A friend of mine has had brain surgery, and susequently walks around
like he is drunk all the time. The recumbent is an absolute godsend for him because it requires
no balance.

They take a bit of getting used to in heavy traffic, and are expensive.
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DFM

Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:35:13 +1000, <[email hidden]>, "Deep Floyd Mars"

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They take a bit of getting used to in heavy traffic, and are expensive.

And ten feet long.
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ahaaaaa

Now I know why my friends who drink heavily all got Trice trikes for weekend excursions...... and
they do make a tandem.... ice.hpv.co.ukframeset.htmlOpen ↗

ie

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N8 <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and

her

Quoted message said:

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husband who recently had a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

Thanks in advance.

You could try a recumbent. A friend of mine has had brain surgery, and susequently walks around
like he is drunk all the time. The recumbent is

an

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absolute godsend for him because it requires no balance.

They take a bit of getting used to in heavy traffic, and are expensive.
---
DFM

henry said:

Now I know why my friends who drink heavily all got Trice trikes for weekend excursions...... and
they do make a tandem.... ice.hpv.co.ukframeset.htmlOpen ↗

They do indeed, and a very fine animal it is. Greenspeed also make one, or if they prefer an upwrong
the Newton is a fine piece of equipment. ddol-las.fsnet.co.uktandem.htmOpen ↗ has a picture.

Guy
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offline awaiting ADSL transfer to new ISP]

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I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and her husband who recently
had a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

You might consider the type of recumbent tricycle that is built so that two individual trikes can be
linked together to make a sort of a "trike tandem".

The advantage of this system is that the trikes can be linked together when you want (either because
one person can't independently steer, or just because it's more fun for two people to ride tandemed
up) but also broken up into two separate trikes when the one person becomes capable of riding
independently again.

We purchased such a pair of trikes for my brother who has balance and visual problems. At first he
always rode tandemed up but after only a few months he had gained so dramatically in his ability
that he now rides almost always independently, and we only tandem the trikes up "for fun".

Our family has loved the two trikes that can be tandemed together. We have gotten an extraordinary
amount of use out of them. They are an awful lot of fun--like riding a pedal-powered go-kart.

I highly, highly recommend such trikes for anyone who has the sort of disability that makes walking
or ordinary bicycle-riding difficult or impossible. With the tandem option, they are also great for
visually impaired users.

We considered an ordinary tandem bike for my brother, but he's large and heavy enough that none of
the potential captains who would ride with him had the strength or tandem biking experience to make
that work. The tandem trikes worked very well for him, because he will never "graduate" to riding an
ordinary bike, but he very soon graduated to riding his own trike.

Yes, recumbent trikes are "expensive" but, even for a pair of them, the total is far less than the
price of a car. When you start adding up prices for rehabilitation services for a disabled person,
even the most expensive trike starts to look like a bargain.

And yes, the skinny-tired racing set is going to moan and groan about how "heavy" and "slow" the
trikes are. But your friend who has had a stroke isn't going to care that some tight-bunned race
weenie who can do 28 MPH on his $6000 carbon fiber racing bike can "only" make 23 MPH on the
Penninger over the same course. This is a dramatic difference for the racing set (like the
difference between first place and 179th place) but for the rest of us it means that it takes us 2
minutes 14 seconds longer to get to the store.

And on your trike, you'll be smiling the whole 2:14, so who cares that something else might get you
there a little faster . . .

Going up a hill can be slow, but (unlike a bicycle) it is *easy* and very *stable*. Because you
needn't worry about balancing, you can go as slow as you want and you can stop to take a breather
whenever you like (after all, you're carrying a built-in comfortable lounge chair with you wherever
you go . . . ).

As far as I know, there are two makes of recumbent trikes that can be tandemed together as I
described above. One is the Penninger Voyager (Penninger also make a slightly cheaper model called
the "Traveler" but I would stick with the Voyager if at all possible). See

penninger.comPenninger%20Recumbents.htmOpen ↗ or
penningerrecumbents.comcontact.htmOpen ↗

Charles Penninger, who owns Penninger Recumbents, is very informative and helpful and I would take a
few minutes to call and chat with him about your situation (phone # is on the web site).

The other tandem-able trike is the Hase Kettwiesel. Look under "Products", then "Kettwiesel" at

hase-spezialraeder.deindex.htmOpen ↗

The Penninger is a bit heavier than the Kettwiesel but the rider sits a bit higher (making it easier
to get into & out of, and also improving visibility in traffic) and the Penninger has other
advantages like the T-Bar, which makes getting into and out of the seat much easier for anyone with
mobility issues. The Penninger's steering is dead solid and stable and it is very easy to ride and
drive. The Penninger is, in general, extremely sturdy and "user-friendly", and that is an important
concern in the use you are considering.

I haven't had the chance to try a Kettwiesel but from the reports I have read, people who have them
really like them.

You can read short reviews of the Penningers, Kettwiesel, and a lot of other trikes at

bentrideronline.comTrikes%202002.htmOpen ↗

You can read some of our experiences with the Penningers at

sunflower.orgtrikesOpen ↗

Here is a page with some adventures of my friend Randy Niere, who is a stroke, heart-attack (etc.
etc.) survivor:

65.64.114.185katyjournal.htmOpen ↗

Randy started out riding a trike but made so much progress with his strength, endurance, and balance
that he switched to a (recumbent, under-seat steering) bike this year.

I'm recommending what are called "recumbent tricycles", which come in two flavors: delta (two wheels
in back, one in front) and tadpole (two wheels in front, one in back).

But I would strongly advise against the sort of "old-fashioned adult tricycle" that looks like a
blown-up version of a child's tricycle--the kind where the rider sits up high and there is only
one wheel in front. These can be relatively inexpensive (a few hundred dollars) but the components
are invariably very, very cheap. They typically have few or no gears (on a trike you NEED a wide
range of gearing) and their design makes them extremely unstable. Your race-weenie-buddy who can
make the Penninger go 23 MPH will only be able to make the "Giant Kid's Trike" go 9 MPH and will
pay for taking it up to this dangerously high speed when he plants his face on the pavement
turning a corner.

The high center of gravity, forward seating position, and one front wheel of the Giant Kid's Trike
make it astonishingly easy to tip this kind of trike 45 degrees to the left or right when cornering
and/or going down a slight hill.

A good recumbent trike (either tadpole or delta) is, by comparison, a marvel of stability and speed.

You might also ask this question on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent (I've taken the liberty of
cross-posting this message to that group; please trim newsgroups appropriately if you reply), on the
trikes mailing list at

alaska.nettrikes list.htmlOpen ↗

and/or on the relevant International Human-Powered Vehicle Association lists at

ihpva.orgmailing listsOpen ↗

--Brent bhugh [at] mwsc.edu

Brent -

This was extremely helpful information. Thanks!

Nate

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"N8" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

I am researching Tandem adult-sized tricycles for a friend of mine and

her

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

husband who recently had a stroke.

If anyone has any links or manufacturer names, pls post.

You might consider the type of recumbent tricycle that is built so that two individual trikes can
be linked together to make a sort of a "trike tandem".

The advantage of this system is that the trikes can be linked together when you want (either
because one person can't independently steer, or just because it's more fun for two people to ride
tandemed up) but also broken up into two separate trikes when the one person becomes capable of
riding independently again.

We purchased such a pair of trikes for my brother who has balance and visual problems. At first he
always rode tandemed up but after only a few months he had gained so dramatically in his ability
that he now rides almost always independently, and we only tandem the trikes up "for fun".

Our family has loved the two trikes that can be tandemed together. We have gotten an extraordinary
amount of use out of them. They are an awful lot of fun--like riding a pedal-powered go-kart.

I highly, highly recommend such trikes for anyone who has the sort of disability that makes
walking or ordinary bicycle-riding difficult or impossible. With the tandem option, they are also
great for visually impaired users.

We considered an ordinary tandem bike for my brother, but he's large and heavy enough that none of
the potential captains who would ride with him had the strength or tandem biking experience to
make that work. The tandem trikes worked very well for him, because he will never "graduate" to
riding an ordinary bike, but he very soon graduated to riding his own trike.

Yes, recumbent trikes are "expensive" but, even for a pair of them, the total is far less than the
price of a car. When you start adding up prices for rehabilitation services for a disabled person,
even the most expensive trike starts to look like a bargain.

And yes, the skinny-tired racing set is going to moan and groan about how "heavy" and "slow" the
trikes are. But your friend who has had a stroke isn't going to care that some tight-bunned race
weenie who can do 28 MPH on his $6000 carbon fiber racing bike can "only" make 23 MPH on the
Penninger over the same course. This is a dramatic difference for the racing set (like the
difference between first place and 179th place) but for the rest of us it means that it takes us 2
minutes 14 seconds longer to get to the store.

And on your trike, you'll be smiling the whole 2:14, so who cares that something else might get
you there a little faster . . .

Going up a hill can be slow, but (unlike a bicycle) it is *easy* and very *stable*. Because you
needn't worry about balancing, you can go as slow as you want and you can stop to take a breather
whenever you like (after all, you're carrying a built-in comfortable lounge chair with you
wherever you go . . . ).

As far as I know, there are two makes of recumbent trikes that can be tandemed together as I
described above. One is the Penninger Voyager (Penninger also make a slightly cheaper model called
the "Traveler" but I would stick with the Voyager if at all possible). See

penninger.comPenninger%20Recumbents.htmOpen ↗ or
penningerrecumbents.comcontact.htmOpen ↗

Charles Penninger, who owns Penninger Recumbents, is very informative and helpful and I would take
a few minutes to call and chat with him about your situation (phone # is on the web site).

The other tandem-able trike is the Hase Kettwiesel. Look under "Products", then "Kettwiesel" at

hase-spezialraeder.deindex.htmOpen ↗

The Penninger is a bit heavier than the Kettwiesel but the rider sits a bit higher (making it
easier to get into & out of, and also improving visibility in traffic) and the Penninger has other
advantages like the T-Bar, which makes getting into and out of the seat much easier for anyone
with mobility issues. The Penninger's steering is dead solid and stable and it is very easy to
ride and drive. The Penninger is, in general, extremely sturdy and "user-friendly", and that is an
important concern in the use you are considering.

I haven't had the chance to try a Kettwiesel but from the reports I have read, people who have
them really like them.

You can read short reviews of the Penningers, Kettwiesel, and a lot of other trikes at

bentrideronline.comTrikes%202002.htmOpen ↗

You can read some of our experiences with the Penningers at

sunflower.orgtrikesOpen ↗

Here is a page with some adventures of my friend Randy Niere, who is a stroke, heart-attack (etc.
etc.) survivor:

65.64.114.185katyjournal.htmOpen ↗

Randy started out riding a trike but made so much progress with his strength, endurance, and
balance that he switched to a (recumbent, under-seat steering) bike this year.

I'm recommending what are called "recumbent tricycles", which come in two flavors: delta (two
wheels in back, one in front) and tadpole (two wheels in front, one in back).

But I would strongly advise against the sort of "old-fashioned adult tricycle" that looks like a
blown-up version of a child's tricycle--the kind where the rider sits up high and there is only
one wheel in front. These can be relatively inexpensive (a few hundred dollars) but the components
are invariably very, very cheap. They typically have few or no gears (on a trike you NEED a wide
range of gearing) and their design makes them extremely unstable. Your race-weenie-buddy who can
make the Penninger go 23 MPH will only be able to make the "Giant Kid's Trike" go 9 MPH and will
pay for taking it up to this dangerously high speed when he plants his face on the pavement
turning a corner.

The high center of gravity, forward seating position, and one front wheel of the Giant Kid's Trike
make it astonishingly easy to tip this kind of trike 45 degrees to the left or right when
cornering and/or going down a slight hill.

A good recumbent trike (either tadpole or delta) is, by comparison, a marvel of stability
and speed.

You might also ask this question on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent (I've taken the liberty of
cross-posting this message to that group; please trim newsgroups appropriately if you reply), on
the trikes mailing list at

alaska.nettrikes list.htmlOpen ↗

and/or on the relevant International Human-Powered Vehicle Association lists at

ihpva.orgmailing listsOpen ↗

--Brent bhugh [at] mwsc.edu

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Brent -

This was extremely helpful information. Thanks!

Nate

Nate:

If you want to hear more about the Kettweisels, a local trike enthusiast has put many, many miles on
his with his son. His name's Keith Kohan- email me privately for his contact information.

Here's their trikes, unlinked: ohpv.orgdon023.htmOpen ↗ and here they are
(linked) at top speed at the Portland Human Power Challenge:
photodad.comIMG 2044Open ↗ and here they are on Cycle Oregon:
pintegrity.compictures view.aspOpen ↗

Jeff