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  1. from the *political animal* blog:

    TACO TRIVIA....Back from lunch. I had tacos. Which reminds of
    something. Last week I was re-reading Youngblood Hawke, Herman Wouk's
    great midcentury ode to supply-side economics (moral of the story:
    high marginal tax rates on labor income can kill you!) and came across
    the following conversation. Jeanne is a Southern Californian
    transplanted to New York City; Gus the attorney is a Kentuckian
    transplanted to New York City:

    Soon the lawyer sat in the living room in his shirtsleeves at
    Jeanne's insistence, his tie off, eating tacos from a tray. He needed
    a shave, and his hair was unkempt. Hawke noticed that the bristles on
    his face were reddish rather than blond. He looked more tired than
    Hawke had ever seen him, but the food and the beer brought him to
    quickly. "Why, these things are marvellous! What do you call them,
    Jeanne, tacos? I've never eaten anything like this. Delicious! Is
    there a restaurant in town where I can order these?"

    She said, pleased, "Well, if you can find a lowbrow enough Mexican
    joint they'll probably have tacos, but I wouldn't endorse the
    contents, Gus. Better ask me, when you feel like having them again.
    They're easy to make."

    Really? In New York City, circa 1952, tacos were so uncommon as to be
    practically unknown? Who knew?

    —Kevin Drum, August 22, 2007

    more at:
    <http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_08/011922.php>

    (at the u.r.l. above you will find many geezer comments about where
    they first encountered tacos in various parts of the country, some
    current taco hotspots and trash talk about how cruddy the tacos are in
    *your* town as opposed to mine. i thought some folks here might find
    it of interest. drum, i believe, lives in orange county, ca. as they
    say in mexico, bon appétit!)

    your pal,
    blake

  2. How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    Steve

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    blake murphy said:

    Really? In New York City, circa 1952, tacos were so uncommon as to be
    practically unknown? Who knew?

    Tacos were an exotic item in my hometown when I was a kid (I was born in
    1949). There was generally only one Mexican restaurant in town at a
    time (about 200,000 people). They always had chili on the menu, because
    that was expected.

  4. "Steve Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    Steve

    They are not authentically Mexican, iirc. I remember hearing a news story
    recently about American taco chains opening a restaurant in Mexico City and
    having to explain what tacos and burritos were. Here's a news link:
    http://www.chicanoforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27301
    My favorite real Mexican dish is Pescado Veracruz, or baked fish with
    green olives. Sounds a little weird, but very tasty. I have not found a good
    recipe that matches my friend's dish, but I'll keep trying.
    But I like Tex-Mex food and all the variations in-between. Most of it is
    good.
    Caveat gusto?
    Edrena

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Steve Y said:

    How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    Some people have other ideas, but I believe that a taco is just a
    tortilla with stuff in it.

    Different countries have different favorite fillings and cooking
    methods, and even within a larger country (like Mexico), there are major
    variations.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Joneses said:

    "Steve Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    Steve

    They are not authentically Mexican, iirc. I remember hearing a news story
    recently about American taco chains opening a restaurant in Mexico City and
    having to explain what tacos and burritos were. Here's a news link:
    http://www.chicanoforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27301

    Your cite doesn't support your claim. There is no mention of "tacos" in
    it. Burritos are another matter. They are not common in Mexico, and
    maybe not at all in Mexico City.

  7. "Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    The Joneses said:

    "Steve Y" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These
    are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    Steve

    They are not authentically Mexican, iirc. I remember hearing a news
    story
    recently about American taco chains opening a restaurant in Mexico City
    and
    having to explain what tacos and burritos were. Here's a news link:
    http://www.chicanoforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27301

    Your cite doesn't support your claim. There is no mention of "tacos" in
    it. Burritos are another matter. They are not common in Mexico, and
    maybe not at all in Mexico City.

    You're entirely right. I've tasted many varieties of 'taco' down here and
    some are a far cry from the American version of tacos. It's almost all good.
    Edrena

  8. The Joneses said:

    "Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "The Joneses" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Your cite doesn't support your claim. There is no mention of "tacos" in
    it. Burritos are another matter. They are not common in Mexico, and
    maybe not at all in Mexico City.

    You're entirely right. I've tasted many varieties of 'taco' down here and
    some are a far cry from the American version of tacos. It's almost all good.
    Edrena

    One thing I noticed, their salsa is much hotter than ours. Wow, it is
    wicked hot. It is darker in color, smooth in texture, and you can not
    spot a vegetable in it.

    Becca

  9. Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Steve Y said:

    How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    About as far as you can get. What city do you live in/close to?

    I know where to get real tacos in CHI, Memphis or Dallas.

    Quoted message said:


    Some people have other ideas, but I believe that a taco is just a
    tortilla with stuff in it.

    Different countries have different favorite fillings and cooking
    methods, and even within a larger country (like Mexico), there are major
    variations.

    Yes, but what taco seems to almost always mean is two 6" soft corn
    tortillas with meat, chopped onion and cilantro on top. I always say,
    "no cilantro." It is almost always accompanied by a piece of lime.
    That is a taco.

    --Bryan

  10. Becca said:
    The Joneses said:

    "Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "The Joneses" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Your cite doesn't support your claim. There is no mention of "tacos" in
    it. Burritos are another matter. They are not common in Mexico, and
    maybe not at all in Mexico City.

    Quoted message said:

    You're entirely right. I've tasted many varieties of 'taco' down here and
    some are a far cry from the American version of tacos. It's almost all good.
    Edrena

    One thing I noticed, their salsa is much hotter than ours. Wow, it is
    wicked hot. It is darker in color, smooth in texture, and you can not
    spot a vegetable in it.

    Most often there is nothing in it other than chilies, water and salt,
    and sometimes a bit of garlic and/or pureed tomatillo.

    Quoted message said:


    Becca

    --Bryan

  11. On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:41:46 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Dan Abel said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Steve Y said:

    How far from the "original" or the "authentic" are those tacos that are
    made following the instructions on an "Old El Paso" packet ? These are
    my only experience of tacos so far

    About as far as you can get. What city do you live in/close to?

    I know where to get real tacos in CHI, Memphis or Dallas.

    Quoted message said:


    Some people have other ideas, but I believe that a taco is just a
    tortilla with stuff in it.

    Different countries have different favorite fillings and cooking
    methods, and even within a larger country (like Mexico), there are major
    variations.

    Yes, but what taco seems to almost always mean is two 6" soft corn
    tortillas with meat, chopped onion and cilantro on top. I always say,
    "no cilantro." It is almost always accompanied by a piece of lime.
    That is a taco.


    On lowest Greenville Avenue in Dallas is a place called Tacos Y Mas
    where you choose the filling for the tacos you describe. (My favorite
    is pork al pastor.) It's one of those places where you order at the
    window and eat outside. The first time I was there, the proprietor
    asked me if I wanted everything on my tacos.

    "Yes I do."

    They were a wonderful mess with meat, lime, hot salsa verde, cilantro,
    onions, and Lord knows what else on the tortillas. I had juice
    running down both elbows, and I was happy about it.
    --

    modom

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  12. I'm actually in the wilds of the Beaujolais NW of Lyon. Not sure where
    nearest Mexican style restaurant is.

    I had assumed, courtesy of Old El Paso, that tacos always came in the
    hard corn shells !

    S

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