Rogers went off like a Wet Squib a couple of minutes ago
Serves T-Mobile right for not protecting the Jersey
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Rogers went off like a Wet Squib a couple of minutes ago
Serves T-Mobile right for not protecting the Jersey
Protect who? Gerdemann or Rogers who was in yellow jersey position when he crashed?
Rogers was about as much comparable to Maillot Jaune Material as my Ass
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"Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Rogers went off like a Wet Squib a couple of minutes ago > > Serves T-Mobile right for not protecting the Jersey
Protect who? Gerdemann or Rogers who was in yellow jersey position when he crashed?
Rogers was about as much comparable to Maillot Jaune Material as my Ass
The commentators i'm listening to weren't exactly in agreeance with your views 🙂
Well of course. When a race has been as boring as this one has been with only minor points of interest, it's the job of the commentators to fire up the [censored] so they don't flip the channel to a Tractor Pull or Chicks Mud Wrestling, both of which would be eminently more entertaining
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> "Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Rogers went off like a Wet Squib a couple of minutes ago >> >> Serves T-Mobile right for not protecting the Jersey > > Protect who? > Gerdemann or Rogers who was in yellow jersey position when he crashed? > Rogers was about as much comparable to Maillot Jaune Material as my Ass
The commentators i'm listening to weren't exactly in agreeance with your views 🙂
Well of course. When a race has been as boring as this one has been with only minor points of interest, it's the job of the commentators to fire up the [censored] so they don't flip the channel to a Tractor Pull or Chicks Mud Wrestling, both of which would be eminently more entertaining
Well we both [censored] then eh any reason why you didn't answer my Questions
Any particular reason you don't rate him? And what are your views on Cadel Evans's chances?
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Well of course. When a race has been as boring as this one has been with only minor points of interest, it's the job of the commentators to fire up the [censored] so they don't flip the channel to a Tractor Pull or Chicks Mud Wrestling, both of which would be eminently more entertaining.
I've enjoyed the race so far and only found that one slow stage frustrating (which was corrected later in the day). What exactly were you hoping would happen in the first week?
Rogers went off like a Wet Squib a couple of minutes ago
Serves T-Mobile right for not protecting the Jersey
I have to admit I partly agree. Still, it's rotten bad luck for Rogers.
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Any particular reason you don't rate him? And what are your views on Cadel Evans's chances?
Nil, I hope. He wheelsucked all the way up the last climb. If he'd worked with Moreau instead of against him, they'd both have put a bigger gap into Vino - and, let's face it, Vino is still the most likely winner of this year's tour. Vino is recovering each day, and has a rest day tomorrow. The day to put minutes into him was today, and it could have been done. But Evans would not (or could not) do a stroke of work, and so will finish behind Vino.
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Vino is recovering each day, and has a rest day tomorrow. The day to put minutes into him was today, and it could have been done. But Evans would not (or could not) do a stroke of work, and so will finish behind Vino.
Vino can't really afford to lose much more time on Tuesday, he's good at the ITT but he's no Ullrich.
And speaking of Ullrich, if he's watching he must be wishing he used a more discreet service provider because that elusive no.2 might finally have come, what with more than 100Km of ITT's to come and no really big attacks in the mountains.
Any particular reason you don't rate him? And what are your views on Cadel Evans's chances?
Nil, I hope. He wheelsucked all the way up the last climb. If he'd worked with Moreau instead of against him, they'd both have put a bigger gap into Vino - and, let's face it, Vino is still the most likely winner of this year's tour. Vino is recovering each day, and has a rest day tomorrow. The day to put minutes into him was today, and it could have been done. But Evans would not (or could not) do a stroke of work, and so will finish behind Vino.
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Evans never attacks! But none of the other racers were helping Moreau. I agree that group could have put the Vino/Kloden/Levi/Sastre group in trouble today.
Vino is recovering each day, and has a rest day tomorrow. The day to put minutes into him was today, and it could have been done. But Evans would not (or could not) do a stroke of work, and so will finish behind Vino.
Vino can't really afford to lose much more time on Tuesday, he's good at the ITT but he's no Ullrich.
And speaking of Ullrich, if he's watching he must be wishing he used a more discreet service provider because that elusive no.2 might finally have come, what with more than 100Km of ITT's to come and no really big attacks in the mountains.
We haven't seen everybody yet. Have we? I think there are some riders who have not hoisted their colors yet. I am looking forward to more, serious racing.
Evans never attacks! But none of the other racers were helping Moreau. I agree that group could have put the Vino/Kloden/Levi/Sastre group in trouble today.
Moreau seemed to be up for it today. I hope I'm wrong in wondering if, at 36, he'll be able to recover well enough for the steeper Pyrenean climbs after the TT next weekend.
Evans never attacks! But none of the other racers were helping Moreau. I agree that group could have put the Vino/Kloden/Levi/Sastre group in trouble today.
Moreau seemed to be up for it today. I hope I'm wrong in wondering if, at 36, he'll be able to recover well enough for the steeper Pyrenean climbs after the TT next weekend.
He forced it too much. By attacking his breakaway companions several times he clearly showed them that he was the strongest of the group.
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From then on, they wouldn't cooperate anymore. Dumbass move by Moreau,
really. Why should they help the guy that attacked them just before? It was all of them against him from this point on. Of course they wouldn't let him go anymore.
Mayo showed them how it's done: Attack once. The others have to chase back. Make yourself disappear in the group. Play dead (you seemingly put all your effort into your first attack). Attack when nobody expects it because they think you are dead.
Unfortunately for Mayo, it only works once. In the next stages he will also be a marked man.
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Protect who? Gerdemann or Rogers who was in yellow jersey position when he crashed?
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Rogers was about as much comparable to Maillot Jaune Material as my Ass
The commentators i'm listening to weren't exactly in agreeance with your views 🙂
The guys _in_ the race (riders and their directeurs sportifs), however seemed to agree by letting Rogers go into such rather serious break in the first place. And these are the guys that count more than any commentators. Rogers was a GC contender only in the eyes of the T-Mob (weel, maybe also the cyclingnews-Oz-connection). Unfortunately for all of us, we cannot be proved wrong either way anymore.
He forced it too much. By attacking his breakaway companions several times he clearly showed them that he was the strongest of the group. From then on, they wouldn't cooperate anymore. Dumbass move by Moreau,
In fairness, before the attacking I saw him gesturing more than once, asking them to ride together (finger making circles).
Any particular reason you don't rate him? And what are your views on Cadel Evans's chances?
Nil, I hope. He wheelsucked all the way up the last climb. If he'd worked with Moreau instead of against him, they'd both have put a bigger gap into Vino - and, let's face it, Vino is still the most likely winner of this year's tour. Vino is recovering each day, and has a rest day tomorrow. The day to put minutes into him was today, and it could have been done. But Evans would not (or could not) do a stroke of work, and so will finish behind Vino.
Evans never attacks! But none of the other racers were helping Moreau. I agree that group could have put the Vino/Kloden/Levi/Sastre group in trouble today.
I assume the reason Schleck didn't help Moreau was team orders - Sastre was back with Vino. I don't understand why Evans and Valverde didn't work with Moreau, because it was clearly in both of their interests to do Astana as much damage as possible.
I have to say I hope Sastre is up to this. He talks about playing a long game and was able to climb away from Vino at the end; but I really feel that yesterday was the day to hit Astana hard, and it was not done.
Rogers went off like a Wet Squib a couple of minutes ago
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I have to admit I partly agree. Still, it's rotten bad luck for Rogers.
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wow. sure whhhhishKlang i was standing there. Rodgers thought that was a 50mph bend? Mal route! and geredeman on the brink. results of the no drugs policy: carnage from foggy thinking. as above.
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The commentators i'm listening to weren't exactly in agreeance with your views 🙂
The guys _in_ the race (riders and their directeurs sportifs), however seemed to agree by letting Rogers go into such rather serious break in the first place. And these are the guys that count more than any commentators. Rogers was a GC contender only in the eyes of the T-Mob (weel, maybe also the cyclingnews-Oz-connection). Unfortunately for all of us, we cannot be proved wrong either way anymore.- Hide quoted text -
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Levi benefitted also from those strange tactics played out in the Moreau group. Levi made up some time and is still in contention.
