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  1. Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  2. Commentary on Adventure Sports Radio website but terrible music drowning out the words at some
    points "rumpe cramp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  3. Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from second
    group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO sometimes doing
    stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp said:


    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  4. From CN: "The biggest news at the moment is that an escaped parrot is flying with the break wanting
    to land on the pink helmet of Aldag, although it is struggling on the descent."

    Wtf. Chang, learn to handle your livestock.

  5. For those in the bay area or on cable: Is KGO's coverage [censored] or what?

    The announcer sounds like he's [censored] at having to give up his sunday champagne brunch to broadcast
    a bike race, the camera placement is awful, we're not seeing or hearing about things -- like Lance
    dropping out -- until 5 minutes after they've happened, and there is very little real time
    timecheck/tactical info.

    *pining for Phil, Paul, and Bobke*

    D.

    "rumpe cramp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  6. Armstrong dropped out.

    Second group@ 1:30 Johnson (Sat) DeCanio (PA) BURYING HIMSELF at the front Clinger (PA) Schumacher
    (Telekom) Louder (Nav) RE Lobato (DVE) 7th???

    Peloton @ 4:30

    rumpe cramp said:


    Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from second
    group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO sometimes doing
    stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp said:


    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  7. Can't possibly be worse than the iRadio coverage on adventuresportsradio.com.

    In article <[email hidden]>, "Darren"

    Quoted message said:

    For those in the bay area or on cable: Is KGO's coverage [censored] or what?

    The announcer sounds like he's [censored] at having to give up his sunday champagne brunch to
    broadcast a bike race, the camera placement is awful, we're not seeing or hearing about things --
    like Lance dropping out -- until 5 minutes after they've happened, and there is very little real
    time timecheck/tactical info.

    *pining for Phil, Paul, and Bobke*

    D.

    "rumpe cramp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

    ______________________________________________________________________
    Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - FAST UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD - uncensored-news.comuncensored-news.com
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  8. Im rooting for Gord Fraser but I guess he'll lose out when the last lap comes. "rumpe cramp"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong dropped out.

    Second group@ 1:30 Johnson (Sat) DeCanio (PA) BURYING HIMSELF at the front Clinger (PA) Schumacher
    (Telekom) Louder (Nav) RE Lobato (DVE) 7th???

    Peloton @ 4:30

    rumpe cramp said:


    Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from
    second group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO
    sometimes doing stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp said:


    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  9. Fraser never regains front after Fillmore. He's somehwere between the first and second group at the
    beginning of lap 10. Aldag attacks on a little climb near the beginning of lap 100; only Lokkesmoe
    covers. JJ rider dropped from second group on 9th lap climb up Fillmore, not seen again. Decanio
    still the second group workhorse (1:10). Peloton at
    3:35. Grajales looks to wrap up KOM points.

    rumpe cramp said:


    Armstrong dropped out.

    Second group@ 1:30 Johnson (Sat) DeCanio (PA) BURYING HIMSELF at the front Clinger (PA) Schumacher
    (Telekom) Louder (Nav) RE Lobato (DVE) 7th???

    Peloton @ 4:30

    rumpe cramp said:


    Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from
    second group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO
    sometimes doing stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp said:


    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  10. Gords gone "Bernard Slater" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Im rooting for Gord Fraser but I guess he'll lose out when the last lap comes. "rumpe cramp"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Armstrong dropped out.

    Second group@ 1:30 Johnson (Sat) DeCanio (PA) BURYING HIMSELF at the front Clinger (PA)
    Schumacher (Telekom) Louder (Nav) RE Lobato (DVE) 7th???

    Peloton @ 4:30

    rumpe cramp said:


    Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from
    second group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO
    sometimes doing stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp wrote:
    >
    > Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore
    >
    > Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    > (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)
    >
    > Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of
    > second group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  11. Still Aldag and Lokkesmore after Taylor. Aldag grinding and zig-zagging up Fillmore. Lokkesmore sits
    down and pedals right behind; he has a lower gear. Group of 6 picks up fraser... gap at 2 min?
    Peloton at > 3 min? No word on Wherry and Grajales.

    rumpe cramp said:


    Fraser never regains front after Fillmore. He's somehwere between the first and second group at
    the beginning of lap 10. Aldag attacks on a little climb near the beginning of lap 100; only
    Lokkesmoe covers. JJ rider dropped from second group on 9th lap climb up Fillmore, not seen again.
    Decanio still the second group workhorse (1:10). Peloton at
    3:35. Grajales looks to wrap up KOM points.

    rumpe cramp said:


    Armstrong dropped out.

    Second group@ 1:30 Johnson (Sat) DeCanio (PA) BURYING HIMSELF at the front Clinger (PA)
    Schumacher (Telekom) Louder (Nav) RE Lobato (DVE) 7th???

    Peloton @ 4:30

    rumpe cramp said:


    Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from
    second group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO
    sometimes doing stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp wrote:
    >
    > Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore
    >
    > Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    > (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)
    >
    > Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of
    > second group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  12. Lokkesmoe obviously going up Fillmore better than Aldag.... Waits for Aldag. It is all back together
    behind at about 2 min.

    Clinger blasts up Fillmore. TWo DVE, two Seacos and Eki seen at the front up Fillmore.

  13. Clinger, Uros Murn (VC), and mike McCormack (SAT) trying to bridge. No more Fillmore, just the
    Taylor loop

  14. 5 together at front. Not working well. Horner (SAT) and Ben Brooks (JB) trying to bridge at about
    a min back.

    rumpe cramp said:


    Clinger, Uros Murn (VC), and mike McCormack (SAT) trying to bridge. No more Fillmore, just the
    Taylor loop

  15. "rumpe cramp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    I was on Channel 7 (local ABC) TV at the start 11am of the race walking around top of
    Fillmore.... ;-)

    You could NOT miss me.

    Quoted message said:


    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  16. Darren said:

    For those in the bay area or on cable: Is KGO's coverage [censored] or what?

    The announcer sounds like he's [censored] at having to give up his sunday champagne brunch to
    broadcast a bike race, the camera placement is awful, we're not seeing or hearing about things --
    like Lance dropping out -- until 5 minutes after they've happened, and there is very little real
    time timecheck/tactical info.

    *pining for Phil, Paul, and Bobke*

    Aw, poor baby.

    Noticably absent this year where the helicopters which followed the race. In '01 and '02 you could
    pretty much assume where the leaders where by where the helicopters were.

    I didn't see any TV cameras perched on the backs of motorcycles, either, probably a rare skill in
    America del Norte. A few bystanders wondered aloud why the Press cars were so far behind any riders.

    Since I was there and didn't have a portable TV I missed out on the coverage. I didn't bother with
    bringing a radio because I couldn't find any indication of local radio coverage, which is pretty
    amazing, considering the number of radio stations in the area. The city closing streets,
    mistreatment of motorists, mistreatment of one West Viginia rider (who apparently abandonded and was
    heading back to the pit) by a couple SFPD officers, on Bay between Columbus and and Leavenworth.

    Freds and general public were a real nuisance today, taking their bikes onto the race course and
    often ending up with a few racers trying to navigate around them. Small wonder the officers
    patience wore thin and they manhandled the wrong guy. You can't expect the cops to distinguish a
    Fred from racers when there's 20 or so cruising down the streat, though packs and fat tires are
    pretty much a giveaway.

    Even though the race appeared to secure some serious sponsorship from Deutsche Telekom (t-mobile in
    the US) I have to wonder if the race will be back next year.

    If so I'm debating whether to volunteer again. Second year in a row I got a sucky locale. First year
    wasn't too bad, but not being able to move around or even camp out on Taylor Street are kind of a
    minus. On the plus side I finally scored some schwag this year, a few bells, some big pink tube for
    noise making and the usual volunteers shirt, Telekom pink this time.

    Still, a good race and a reasonably good time. Hard to keep up with what was going on though.

    Quoted message said:

    D.

    "rumpe cramp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.


  17. Armstrong looked completely cooked, on about 2nd big lap. He looked about the same in '01 before
    pulling out, too. Guess it was more about face time and doing some work for the team before
    retiring to a warm bath, though I heard someone say he gave a lengthy inverview. Was that before or
    after the race?

    rumpe cramp said:

    Padernos, Armstrong, and Saeco rider seen pulling peloton. Ventura reportedly dropped from second
    group. Fraser reported to be loosing contact everytime up Fillmore and Taylor (KGO sometimes doing
    stupid interviews during climb.)

    Last time check: Second Group 1:45 Peloton 5:40

    rumpe cramp said:

    Still on lap 3, start of Fillmore

    Chris Wherry (Navigators) Jason Lokkesmore (Health Net) Gord Fraser (Health Net) Rolf Aldag
    (Telekom) C Grajales (JJ's)

    Peloton almost 6 min back. No cameras or recent time on the second group. Brief shot of second
    group; didn't see a red Saeco jersey.

  18. Quoted message said:

    From CN: "The biggest news at the moment is that an escaped parrot is flying with the break
    wanting to land on the pink helmet of Aldag, although it is struggling on the descent."

    This is, I assume, a joke... but as I was cutting across a shortcut to Broadway, my wife pointed out
    two very large parrots squawking away in a tree.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

  19. "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From CN: "The biggest news at the moment is that an escaped parrot is flying with the break
    wanting to land on the pink helmet of Aldag, although it is struggling on the descent."

    Wtf. Chang, learn to handle your livestock.

    I didn't think he'd interfere w/ the race, but he's a Moluccan cockatoo and they're similarly tinged
    to the Telekom colors.

  20. "Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I didn't see any TV cameras perched on the backs of motorcycles, either,

    I did.

    Quoted message said:

    probably a rare skill in America del Norte. A few bystanders wondered aloud why the Press cars
    were so far behind any riders.

    Probably because during the women's race, one of the riders tangled with a motorcycle and went down.

    Quoted message said:

    Even though the race appeared to secure some serious sponsorship from Deutsche Telekom (t-mobile
    in the US) I have to wonder if the race will be back next year.

    It attracted an estimated 600,000 people. Why not?

    To hijack your post briefly: Garzelli, Andriotto and Zampieri all signed my jersey, but I kind of
    wished I had gotten to Uros Murn after he rode to 5th... and especially after reading that he was
    signed by Hamilton's Phonak team for next year. D'oh!

    -Sonarrat.

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