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RogerC said:

Is there a formal definition of each cat.

No.

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=category%20climbs%20tour%20france

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RogerC said:

Is there a formal definition of each cat.

No.

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=category%20climbs%20tour%20france

Jij hier?
Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik heb
sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om een
vergeten jasje op te halen).

cheers,

http://www.xs4all.nl/~tolamb/tempo2/
Bert L.am

Bert L. said:

Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum.

Yeah, 9/11...

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Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen

Ah, Mr. Pro bike rider!!

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Bert L. said:

Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum.

Yeah, 9/11...

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Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen

Ah, Mr. Pro bike rider!!

Ik overdrijf (veel en graag). Wil gewoon graag de serie van vijf mtb
marathons (waar ik als assistent de IT van doe) volledig meemaken en
meerijden. En de beide ritten vallen samen. Ik had de heren Nereïden ook al
op de ongelukkige samenhang met 9.11 gewezen, maar dat mag weer geen reden
zijn om niet te fietsen.

cheers,.

Bert

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Bert L. said:

Jij hier?
Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik heb
sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om een
vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

Dave Kahn said:

Bert L. said:

Jij hier?
Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik heb
sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om een
vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

--
Keith Willoughby http://flat222.org/keith/
Keep on keeping on.

Keith Willoughby said:

Dave Kahn said:

Bert L. said:

Jij hier?
Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik heb
sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om een
vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

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Dave Kahn said:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L." <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Jij hier?
>Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik

heb

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>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
>(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als

een

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>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om

een

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>vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

--
Dave...

I've started my training in vocal use of this language at the age of 1.
Writing was little more difficult, but I have succeeded to grasp the
essentials. Fancy taking some lessons in Dutch?

Bert L. from NL (EU)

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Keith Willoughby said:

Dave Kahn said:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L." <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Jij hier?
>Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik heb
>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
>(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om een
>vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

When in Amsterdam you must try Vlamsefrites (Flemish fries) 2kg of
chips with 1/2 a kilo of mayonaise of various flavours all served
rolled up in paper British stylee ;-)

Bert L. said:

I've started my training in vocal use of this language at the age of 1.
Writing was little more difficult, but I have succeeded to grasp the
essentials. Fancy taking some lessons in Dutch?

I have ordered Pete the "teach yourself Dutch in 3 weeks" books (or
something like that) so once they arrive he will be throatscraping all
over the place to practise 🙂

Roos

Roos Eisma said:

I have ordered Pete the "teach yourself Dutch in 3 weeks" books (or
something like that) so once they arrive he will be throatscraping all
over the place to practise 🙂

So far I have merely been slaughtering the odd word (useful ones like
"kaas" and "ligfiets"😉, and am laying in a supply of Fisherman's Friends.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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Dave Kahn wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L." <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Jij hier?
>>Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik

heb

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>>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
>>(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar

als een

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>>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om

een

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>>vergeten jasje op te halen).
>
> Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

When in Amsterdam you must try Vlamsefrites (Flemish fries) 2kg of
chips with 1/2 a kilo of mayonaise of various flavours all served
rolled up in paper British stylee ;-)

When there, please visit this restaurant: www.tlieverdje.nl
You will get your Flemish Fries from my brother in law.
When you smile and tell him you were referred to him by me (I'm his
webmaster) and you know me from the internet bike scene, you'll get a nice
bikers discount.

Bert L.am (from NL, EU)

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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:20:25 +0100, Keith Willoughby
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>Dave Kahn wrote:
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>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L." <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Jij hier?
>>>Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik

heb

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>>>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
>>>(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar

als een

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>>>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km om

een

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>>>vergeten jasje op te halen).
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>> Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?
>
>Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

Actually, it's the Dutch that scrape their throat and disperse a royal
amount of phlegm while conversing. If you (and others) had any clue
you'd know that even the "Dutch" (actually, if used correctly Dutch
(Diets) refers to Netherlanders & Flemings. Except in English of
course...) say that "Flemish" is much softer to the ear.

But you're British. I understand.

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When in Amsterdam you must try Vlamsefrites (Flemish fries) 2kg of

Vlaamse friet/frieten (coming from frituren, meaning to fry). Frites
is French.

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chips with 1/2 a kilo of mayonaise of various flavours all served
rolled up in paper British stylee ;-)

When there, please visit this restaurant: www.tlieverdje.nl
You will get your Flemish Fries from my brother in law.
When you smile and tell him you were referred to him by me (I'm his
webmaster) and you know me from the internet bike scene, you'll get a nice
bikers discount.

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Bert L.am (from NL, EU)

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Actually, it's the Dutch that scrape their throat and disperse a royal
amount of phlegm while conversing. If you (and others) had any clue

Actually, old chap, it's somewhat harsh of you to be so down on your audience
for having such a poor knowledge of Dutch when said audience consists almost
entirely of UK types who read uk.rec.cycling.

For example, I speak several languages and can read quite a lot of some others.
But if I posted here in, say, Russian, I'd expect a bit of stick from the
locals.

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you'd know that even the "Dutch" (actually, if used correctly Dutch
(Diets) refers to Netherlanders & Flemings. Except in English of
course...) say that "Flemish" is much softer to the ear.

The Flemish are Flemish because they chose not to be Dutch.

English has a lot of oddities that are peculiar to it. Borrowing words
wholesale for example, like "trek" and "derailleur" and "eigenvector".

I gather, for another example, that Dutch doesn't have a single word to describe
the peculiarly English concept of "gullible".

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But you're British. I understand.

It's a failing shared by about 60 million people.

Now what does this have to do with Le Tour?
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen, Clever Linguist

Bert L. said:

I've started my training in vocal use of this language at the age of 1.
Writing was little more difficult, but I have succeeded to grasp the
essentials. Fancy taking some lessons in Dutch?

A Dutch colleague once recited some Dutch tongue twisters for me. They
sounded most impressive, and quite impossible for a non-native
speaker.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

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> Hence the term Phlegmish.

Actually, it's the Dutch that scrape their throat and disperse a royal
amount of phlegm while conversing. If you (and others) had any clue
you'd know that even the "Dutch" (actually, if used correctly Dutch
(Diets) refers to Netherlanders & Flemings. Except in English of
course...) say that "Flemish" is much softer to the ear.

I was stretching the point somewhat in order to make a pun.

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But you're British. I understand.

I have managed to acquire French, Norwegian and Russian, but
admittedly the language spoken in the Netherlands remains Double Dutch
to me.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

On 11/6/04 2:39 pm, in article [email hidden],

Dave Kahn said:

I have managed to acquire French, Norwegian and Russian, but
admittedly the language spoken in the Netherlands remains Double Dutch
to me.

Spoken maybe but do you find that you can read a lot of it (if you sort of
pretend it is Norwegian Oranjeboom?

I was quite surprised how much Afrikaans I could understand when I visited
South Afrika after learning Norwegian.

...d

David Martin said:

On 11/6/04 2:39 pm, in article [email hidden],
"Dave Kahn" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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I have managed to acquire French, Norwegian and Russian, but
admittedly the language spoken in the Netherlands remains Double Dutch
to me.

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Spoken maybe but do you find that you can read a lot of it (if you sort of
pretend it is Norwegian Oranjeboom?

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I was quite surprised how much Afrikaans I could understand when I visited
South Afrika after learning Norwegian.

And, the other way around, how easy Norwegian is once you have learnt
Dutch and English. Again, written rather than spoken...

Roos

On 11/6/04 3:22 pm, in article [email hidden], "Roos

Eisma said:

And, the other way around, how easy Norwegian is once you have learnt
Dutch and English. Again, written rather than spoken...

And the rules for translating the various funny characters and sounds..

(&oslash; => oe, &ae; => ae, &aring; => aa and kj means clear your throat
;-)

...d