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  1. Greetings ... I've been running in Brooks Addiction, extra wide, with success for about six months,
    put two marathons on them, and have had no problems whatsoever ... Now, it seems no running store in
    a 50-mile radius carries the Brooks Addiction, they've all tried to suggest I come in and try other
    brands or other Brooks models.

    I'm not married to the Addiction, but it seems a bit risky to switch from a shoe that works to
    something else. But my alternative is to buy the shoes by mail, and I really wanted to try another
    size first (a 2E compared to the 4E I'm wearing now)

    What would other runners do? Switch brands out of convenience, or hang on to what I've used, even
    though there may be something better out there? I'm a midsize male runner, prefer long distances,
    severe overpronator, 30-40 mpw.

    A difficult decision.

  2. no running store in a 50-mile radius carries the Brooks Addiction,

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  3. Not a difficult decision at all for me.

    If you find a shoe you like buy up as many pairs as you can. I am on my 9th pair of a model that I
    started to use about 18 months ago. I got into double figures with another model many years ago.
    Often this can be a cost effective as well as athletically sensible course of action as you can
    often get older shoes at half price.

    Eventually of course you won't be able to find them anywhere and then it's time to go back to the
    shop and see what's on offer.

    Cheers Tim Grose

    "dieshooter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Greetings ... I've been running in Brooks Addiction, extra wide, with success for about six
    months, put two marathons on them, and have had no problems whatsoever ... Now, it seems no
    running store in a 50-mile radius carries the Brooks Addiction, they've all tried to suggest I
    come in and try other brands or other Brooks models.

    I'm not married to the Addiction, but it seems a bit risky to switch from a shoe that works to
    something else. But my alternative is to buy the shoes by mail, and I really wanted to try another
    size first (a 2E compared to the 4E I'm wearing now)

    What would other runners do? Switch brands out of convenience, or hang on to what I've used, even
    though there may be something better out there? I'm a midsize male runner, prefer long distances,
    severe overpronator, 30-40 mpw.

    A difficult decision.

  4. "dieshooter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    A difficult decision.

    Don't switch!

    I am a middle-aged underpronator who has made this mistake in the past. Every time I switch shoes to
    try something different I get knee pain. God help me if they ever stop selling Asics Nimbus shoes.
    Buy off the net, and buy several pairs.

  5. dieshooter said:


    Greetings ... I've been running in Brooks Addiction, extra wide, with success for about six
    months, put two marathons on them, and have had no problems whatsoever ... Now, it seems no
    running store in a 50-mile radius carries the Brooks Addiction, they've all tried to suggest I
    come in and try other brands or other Brooks models.

    I'm not married to the Addiction, but it seems a bit risky to switch from a shoe that works to
    something else. But my alternative is to buy the shoes by mail, and I really wanted to try another
    size first (a 2E compared to the 4E I'm wearing now)

    If there were "no problems whatsoever", then why change widths? (I know, perhaps the toes
    were a little baggy, so maybe they weren't *quite* perfect. I'm being a little facetious but
    you'll see why.)

    If you know what you want, mail order is fine. If you really think the 2E might be better, you could
    order that and see if it works. Exchange if it doesn't. If you wanted to try the 2 widths at the
    same time, you could order both at the same time (width of your used shoes may feel different
    compared to new shoes), try them on, return the ones that don't work.

    Quoted message said:


    What would other runners do? Switch brands out of convenience,

    No. I would never switch from something that appears to be working to something else just because
    that's what the local store sells. Shoes designs do change over time, and then you may be forced to
    change, but even then you may be able to find old models online and hopefully you've stockpiled your
    favorite shoe by then to give you some time to look around.

    or hang

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    on to what I've used, even though there may be something better out there?

    Sometimes things that seem to be working may not work as well as something else you haven't tried
    yet - and that may be available either at your local running shoe store or online but not the other,
    as I found out recently.

    I had worn Saucony Grid Stabils for a number of years because they seemed to be working for me, but
    the fit, especially of the 3rd version, wasn't quite perfect, but far better than most. My PT
    suggested stability rather than MC, and I found several models (Brooks, Adidas) that actually fit my
    foot better than the model I had been using. I had to get them (Brooks Trespass, Adrenaline) mail
    order because local running store didn't have them.

    Dot

    --
    "Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

  6. dieshooter said:

    ... Now, it seems no running store in a 50-mile radius carries the Brooks Addiction, they've all
    tried to suggest I come in and try other brands or other Brooks models.

    I'm not married to the Addiction, but it seems a bit risky to switch from a shoe that works to
    something else. But my alternative is to buy the shoes by mail, and I really wanted to try another
    size first (a 2E compared to the 4E I'm wearing now)

    What would other runners do?

    My running style and needs are pretty unusual, so perhaps I'm more high-strung about this. But it
    took me a LONG time to find that the Brooks Radius and Radius IV (not the 2 interceding models)
    worked well for me. Considering that running shoes are not really returnable after you put the
    necessary 50-100 miles on 'em to find out if they're right for you, it's a lot of money to blow on
    several unsuccessful experiemnts before finding the right new shoe.

    Thus when I realized that the Radius IV was discontinued, I searched everywhere and ordered all I
    could by mail from the online outlets that had them. Now I have enough to last me at least a
    decade or more.

    So I recommend that if this shoe really seems to be the one that works for you, go and get all you
    can. The mail order and online retailers may be the ones that have enough stock to send you a bunch.

    In your particular case, maybe buy that other size, try it out for a couple weeks, decide what fits
    you best, and if you have a happy fit, buy a bunch.

    Otherwise you gotta shop for a completely new shoe, which I find risky and expensive and time
    consuming.

    Just one runner's opinion and personal story. Best of luck! -- Josh in Syracuse

  7. Tim Grose said:

    ... If you find a shoe you like buy up as many pairs as you can. I am on my 9th pair of a model
    that I started to use about 18 months ago. ...

    Ninth pair in 18 months? Wow! You go through a pair every 2 months? How is that? High mileage?
    Aggressive wear? Strange shoe-punishing mechanics? Flimsy shoe? Personal preference?

    I know we've hashed through many times on rec.running the lifespan of a pair of running shoes, but I
    don't remember posters going through shoes in 2 months! Do tell!

    Just curious, -- Josh

  8. In article said:

    Ninth pair in 18 months? Wow! You go through a pair every 2 months? How is that? High mileage?
    Aggressive wear? Strange shoe-punishing mechanics? Flimsy shoe? Personal preference?

    It's certainly possible. 50 miles a week would come to about 450 miles in 2 months. People who run
    this sort of milage are likely to own a couple of pairs, so it's more like 2 pairs every 4 months.

    I think anything less than 300 miles is a pretty short lifespan though, and probably reflects a need
    for either more aggressive shoe maintenance, a more durable shoe, or both.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  9. In article said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ninth pair in 18 months? Wow! You go through a pair every 2 months? How is that? High mileage?
    Aggressive wear? Strange shoe-punishing mechanics? Flimsy shoe?

    The latter, I bet they're Nikes. Seriously, I've worn out pairs in two months without even running
    in them.

    What did you do, talk to them ? I bet they're worn out (-;

    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  10. Actually I might qualify my 9 in 18 months by saying that's how many I've bought but I am still
    regularly using about 4 of them so I've got through only 5 and one of those had to retired early due
    to an unfortunate incident.

    I run about 50 miles per week so most shoes won't last much more than 2 or 3 months without feeling
    a bit jaded.

    And of course Bill knows there are Nike Pegasus.

    Cheers Tim

    "Josh Steinberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tim Grose said:

    ... If you find a shoe you like buy up as many pairs as you can. I am on


    my

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    9th pair of a model that I started to use about 18 months ago. ...

    Ninth pair in 18 months? Wow! You go through a pair every 2 months? How


    is

    Quoted message said:

    that? High mileage? Aggressive wear? Strange shoe-punishing mechanics?


    Flimsy

    Quoted message said:

    shoe? Personal preference?

    I know we've hashed through many times on rec.running the lifespan of a


    pair of

    Quoted message said:

    running shoes, but I don't remember posters going through shoes in 2


    months!

    Quoted message said:

    Do tell!

    Just curious, -- Josh

  11. Thanks all for the input ... the upshoot was:

    JUST to be sure I was in the right shoe, I visited a local running store anyway, even though the
    carred EVERY Brooks model except the Addiction, the one model I use. After trying on the NB 855, and
    Brooks Dyad, and becoming convinced the Saucony Grid Stabil was too narrow, no matter what ... I
    left satisfied that the Addiction is the only shoe for me. I ordered some online. Same 4E size ..
    It's good to know I looked around, but in the end, I think sticking with the shoe that's seen me
    through many miles is the wisest course.

    To support the local store for their help, I bought some other stuff.

    Thanks for the help.

    See you on the road.

  12. This is a perpetual problem in running. I my third of a century of running, I've rarely seen a brand
    of shoes last more than five years. Even if the name remains the same, the construction may
    [de]evolve considerably. Unfortunately if often takes me two tries to find anther working brand.

  13. rick++ said:

    This is a perpetual problem in running. I my third of a century of running, I've rarely
    seen a brand

    I really hope you meant third decade! Oh wait, you meant one third of a century, 33years.
    Got it now.

    Quoted message said:

    of shoes last more than five years. Even if the name remains the same, the construction may
    [de]evolve considerably. Unfortunately if often takes me two tries to find anther working brand.

    --
    Ed Prochak running faqs.orgrunning faq netiquette psg.comemily.html
    --
    "Two roads diverged in a wood and I I took the one less travelled by and that has made all the
    difference." robert frost

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