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  1. Really keen coaches (i.e. control freaks) , as well as trying to make you swim faster than is
    natural, often try to control every other aspect of your life as well. Chief among their lifestyle
    obsessions is diet. I was brought up in an age when 'diet' meant trying to loose weight, but
    nowadays your diet is everything you eat, whereas what the coach would have you eat is your
    'nutritional regime'. "You are what you eat" they tell us.

    I was pondering this thought while observing a group of early-teen club swimmers waiting for the
    transport to an away gala recently. The boys seemed mostly to be consuming the contents of their
    noses, inserting their fingers so far up their nostrils in pursuit of the king of bogies, that I
    could hear scraping noises coming out of their ears. Meanwhile, the girls seemed to be using their
    hair as straws to suck out their brains. The logical conclusion of this self cannibalism is that
    both groups would end up with nothing left in their heads at all, vindicating the club coach's many
    comments on their
    IQ. 'You eat what you are', can also apply I thought.

    However, the more orthodox interpretation of the old saying uses the logic which says that you are
    the net result of that which goes in, less that which goes out. Something rather magical happens in
    between, or else we would all look rather like an overfilled hamburger (in John Prescott's case
    perhaps the magic is missing). The magic is, we are told, the body's metabolic chemistry. Coaching
    tradition has it that if you stock the old bod up with that which is Good For You, and keep it short
    of that which is Bad for You, you will end up with a Better Body. It's a starting point I suppose,
    but it poses the question of how do you know what is Good and Bad ? The answer you get depends on
    when and where you ask the question.

    When I was a lad in post war Britain, and I accompanied my Mum shopping with her ration book, we
    were told that to be healthy you should eat fried eggs and bacon with toast and dripping for
    breakfast, red meat for lunch and red meat again for dinner, washed down with Guinness if you were
    old enough, if not then full cream milk. Bread was white and served with about ½ inch (that 's about
    1 ¼ cm to you) of butter on it, with a slab of cheese the size of the cenotaph. Not only was the
    milk recommended, it was actually compulsory at school, until Margaret Thatcher discovered her
    talent for redundancy by firing all the nation's milk monitors. Potatoes were to be avoided because
    they made you fat, and pasta because it was foreign. Coffee was all four star, and kept you awake
    all afternoon. Added to this we were all encouraged to go out in the sun as much as possible and
    film stars all smoked both on the screen and in real life.

    Modern science has changed all that. Potatoes and pasta are now Good, and most other things are Bad.
    So bad in fact that I suspect the nanny state will soon ban them with the same conviction that it
    forced milk down my adolescent gullet. Red meat already carries a health warning (when you are
    allowed to buy it at all), so surely cheese will soon only be able to be ordered from offshore
    internet grocers to be delivered by post in plain brown envelopes along with all the other things
    you are ashamed of but can't seem to give up. I foresee the Food Police framing suspects by planting
    boiled eggs in their lunch boxes, or stop-and-search raids on suspected milkmen. Indeed even skimmed
    milk, which already tastes like water, will be classed as likely to deprave and corrupt the drinker
    and all milk will have to be completely transparent. Chocolate will become a Class A drug due to its
    addictive qualities and the tendency of users to go in to a dreamy state. Those things which are
    Good will be inflicted upon the young. Salad Monitors will be appointed, and children refusing to
    eat the State Minimum will be detained after school to program their word processors to print out
    100 times '2 carrots good, 4 carrots better'. Vicars will entreat 'Lettuce Pray', and the new
    digestive orthodoxy finally will be complete when meetings are re-named gatherings so as not to
    offend vegetarians ('meat-ings' - get it; sorry don't bother). Sunbathing will soon be made illegal
    and the only person who still smokes in public is Ian Paisley - and that's from his ears. I suppose
    we should be grateful that we are now recommended to drink 2 glasses of red wine a day, but how the
    hell am I expected to cut down to that level?

    In other words, ideas change. So how come they're so sure they've got it right now? True, all the
    film stars who smoked have died of lung cancer, but at least that cleared the way for a better
    looking and less smelly lot. But I haven't died yet from all those eggs, meat, butter, and so on. I
    still go out in the sun and haven't melted or whatever. Doubtless I shall join in the class action
    of all those who went to school between 1948 and 1973 and had milk forced down us, when we sue the
    Government for furred up arteries and obesity, but my motive will be purely mercenary - and I
    haven't even felt the need of counselling yet.

    Where you ask the question'What is Good For You?' also matters in the answer you get. Ask it at a
    body builders gym and you'll be told tuna, boiled eggs and veterinary steroids (secretly they'll
    also add senna-pods - to keep such a diet moving). Ask in a hospital kitchen and it will be boiled
    cabbage and tapioca. Ask in a swimming pool café and it will be whatever the catering manager
    happens to have in that day. If they really believed what all the sports nutrition journals say, why
    are there chocolate and crisp machines everywhere and not a single carrot vendor? Ask any coach what
    is Good and they will probably tell you whatever they read on the health page of Electronics Weekly
    yesterday.

    Ahha! - you say - all you need to do is to see what the best swimmers eat and do the same. Sorry,
    that doesn't work either. There are two types of top swimmer. The first lot think what you eat is
    vital, and so keep their diet secret so you won't get better than them. The second lot couldn't give
    a damn, eat everything and still win.

    The only thing I can add to this counsel of despair, from my own experience, is that swimming
    definitely makes you hungry. So when you go swimming take some of what you consider to be Good with
    you, so you can scoff it before you get to the chocolate machine, or chip shop. I never follow this
    advice myself, and am too often mugged by a Mars Bar on the way out of the pool. I promise shall go
    on a diet though.. starting tomorrow.

  2. "Duncan Heenan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Really keen coaches (i.e. control freaks) , as well as trying to make you swim faster than is
    natural, often try to control every other aspect of


    your

    Quoted message said:

    life as well. Chief among their lifestyle obsessions is diet. I was


    brought

    Quoted message said:

    up in an age when 'diet' meant trying to loose weight, but nowadays your diet is everything you
    eat, whereas what the coach would have you eat is your 'nutritional regime'. "You are what you
    eat" they tell us.

    I was pondering this thought while observing a group of early-teen club swimmers waiting for the
    transport to an away gala recently. The boys


    seemed

    Quoted message said:

    mostly to be consuming the contents of their noses, inserting their


    fingers

    Quoted message said:

    so far up their nostrils in pursuit of the king of bogies, that I could


    hear

    Quoted message said:

    scraping noises coming out of their ears. Meanwhile, the girls seemed to


    be

    Quoted message said:

    using their hair as straws to suck out their brains. The logical


    conclusion

    Quoted message said:

    of this self cannibalism is that both groups would end up with nothing


    left

    Quoted message said:

    in their heads at all, vindicating the club coach's many comments on their
    IQ. 'You eat what you are', can also apply I thought.

    However, the more orthodox interpretation of the old saying uses the logic which says that you are
    the net result of that which goes in, less that which goes out. Something rather magical happens
    in between, or else we would all look rather like an overfilled hamburger (in John Prescott's


    case

    Quoted message said:

    perhaps the magic is missing). The magic is, we are told, the body's metabolic chemistry. Coaching
    tradition has it that if you stock the old


    bod

    Quoted message said:

    up with that which is Good For You, and keep it short of that which is Bad for You, you will end
    up with a Better Body. It's a starting point I suppose, but it poses the question of how do you
    know what is Good and Bad


    ?

    Quoted message said:

    The answer you get depends on when and where you ask the question.

    When I was a lad in post war Britain, and I accompanied my Mum shopping


    with

    Quoted message said:

    her ration book, we were told that to be healthy you should eat fried eggs and bacon with toast
    and dripping for breakfast, red meat for lunch and


    red

    Quoted message said:

    meat again for dinner, washed down with Guinness if you were old enough,


    if

    Quoted message said:

    not then full cream milk. Bread was white and served with about ½ inch


    (that

    Quoted message said:

    's about 1 ¼ cm to you) of butter on it, with a slab of cheese the size of the cenotaph. Not only
    was the milk recommended, it was actually


    compulsory

    Quoted message said:

    at school, until Margaret Thatcher discovered her talent for redundancy by firing all the nation's
    milk monitors. Potatoes were to be avoided because they made you fat, and pasta because it was
    foreign. Coffee was all four star, and kept you awake all afternoon. Added to this we were all


    encouraged

    Quoted message said:

    to go out in the sun as much as possible and film stars all smoked both


    on

    Quoted message said:

    the screen and in real life.

    Modern science has changed all that. Potatoes and pasta are now Good, and most other things are
    Bad. So bad in fact that I suspect the nanny state will soon ban them with the same conviction
    that it forced milk down my adolescent gullet. Red meat already carries a health warning (when you
    are allowed to buy it at all), so surely cheese will soon only be able to be ordered from offshore
    internet grocers to be delivered by post in plain brown envelopes along with all the other things
    you are ashamed of but


    can't

    Quoted message said:

    seem to give up. I foresee the Food Police framing suspects by planting boiled eggs in their lunch
    boxes, or stop-and-search raids on suspected milkmen. Indeed even skimmed milk, which already
    tastes like water, will


    be

    Quoted message said:

    classed as likely to deprave and corrupt the drinker and all milk will


    have

    Quoted message said:

    to be completely transparent. Chocolate will become a Class A drug due to its addictive qualities
    and the tendency of users to go in to a dreamy state. Those things which are Good will be
    inflicted upon the young.


    Salad

    Quoted message said:

    Monitors will be appointed, and children refusing to eat the State Minimum will be detained after
    school to program their word processors to print


    out

    Quoted message said:

    100 times '2 carrots good, 4 carrots better'. Vicars will entreat 'Lettuce Pray', and the new
    digestive orthodoxy finally will be complete when meetings are re-named gatherings so as not to
    offend vegetarians ('meat-ings' - get it; sorry don't bother). Sunbathing will soon be made
    illegal and the only person who still smokes in public is Ian Paisley -


    and

    Quoted message said:

    that's from his ears. I suppose we should be grateful that we are now recommended to drink 2
    glasses of red wine a day, but how the hell am I expected to cut down to that level?

    In other words, ideas change. So how come they're so sure they've got it right now? True, all the
    film stars who smoked have died of lung cancer,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    at least that cleared the way for a better looking and less smelly lot.


    But

    Quoted message said:

    I haven't died yet from all those eggs, meat, butter, and so on. I still


    go

    Quoted message said:

    out in the sun and haven't melted or whatever. Doubtless I shall join in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    class action of all those who went to school between 1948 and 1973 and had milk forced down us,
    when we sue the Government for furred up arteries and obesity, but my motive will be purely
    mercenary - and I haven't even felt the need of counselling yet.

    Where you ask the question'What is Good For You?' also matters in the


    answer

    Quoted message said:

    you get. Ask it at a body builders gym and you'll be told tuna, boiled


    eggs

    Quoted message said:

    and veterinary steroids (secretly they'll also add senna-pods - to keep


    such

    Quoted message said:

    a diet moving). Ask in a hospital kitchen and it will be boiled cabbage


    and

    Quoted message said:

    tapioca. Ask in a swimming pool café and it will be whatever the catering manager happens to have
    in that day. If they really believed what all the sports nutrition journals say, why are there
    chocolate and crisp machines everywhere and not a single carrot vendor? Ask any coach what is Good
    and they will probably tell you whatever they read on the health page of Electronics Weekly
    yesterday.

    Ahha! - you say - all you need to do is to see what the best swimmers eat and do the same. Sorry,
    that doesn't work either. There are two types of


    top

    Quoted message said:

    swimmer. The first lot think what you eat is vital, and so keep their diet secret so you won't get
    better than them. The second lot couldn't give a damn, eat everything and still win.

    The only thing I can add to this counsel of despair, from my own


    experience,

    Quoted message said:

    is that swimming definitely makes you hungry. So when you go swimming take some of what you
    consider to be Good with you, so you can scoff it before you get to the chocolate machine, or chip
    shop. I never follow this advice myself, and am too often mugged by a Mars Bar on the way out of
    the pool.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    promise shall go on a diet though.. starting tomorrow.

    Something that really works for me is: Everything in moderation.

    (except for smoking and coffee, my taste buds rejected those two, and I didn't argue with them)

    Well, okay, I'll revise that, everything in moderation except for chocolate. I'll let chocolate be
    my vice 🙂

  3. Quoted message said:

    Something that really works for me is: Everything in moderation.

    (except for smoking and coffee, my taste buds rejected those two, and I didn't argue with them)

    Well, okay, I'll revise that, everything in moderation except for


    chocolate.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll let chocolate be my vice 🙂

    Yes, but all generlisations are wrong!
    :-)
    Duncan

  4. Duncan Heenan said:


    Quoted message said:

    Something that really works for me is: Everything in moderation.

    (except for smoking and coffee, my taste buds rejected those two, and I didn't argue with them)

    Well, okay, I'll revise that, everything in moderation except for


    chocolate.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll let chocolate be my vice 🙂

    Yes, but all generlisations are wrong!

    And so are all absolutes!

    ~Matt

    Quoted message said:

    :-)
    Duncan

  5. "Duncan Heenan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Something that really works for me is: Everything in moderation.

    (except for smoking and coffee, my taste buds rejected those two, and I didn't argue with them)

    Well, okay, I'll revise that, everything in moderation except for


    chocolate.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll let chocolate be my vice 🙂

    Yes, but all generlisations are wrong!
    :-)
    Duncan

    They're not wrong. They just don't work for everyone. Generally speaking...

    😉

  6. <MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Duncan Heenan said:


    Quoted message said:

    Something that really works for me is: Everything in moderation.

    (except for smoking and coffee, my taste buds rejected those two, and I didn't argue with them)

    Well, okay, I'll revise that, everything in moderation except for


    chocolate.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll let chocolate be my vice 🙂

    Yes, but all generlisations are wrong!

    And so are all absolutes!


    Absolutely! You're totally correct.

  7. <MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Duncan Heenan said:


    Quoted message said:

    Something that really works for me is: Everything in moderation.

    (except for smoking and coffee, my taste buds rejected those two, and I didn't argue with them)

    Well, okay, I'll revise that, everything in moderation except for


    chocolate.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll let chocolate be my vice 🙂

    Yes, but all generlisations are wrong!

    And so are all absolutes!

    ~Matt

    are they generally absolute or absolutely general?

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