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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Does she eat them?

    Nope

    Maybe Lizzy doesn't, but I remember reading somewhere a few years ago
    that it was [traditionally] the prerogative of kings in England to have
    swan served at the table, and nobody else was allowed ...

    ... except for the fictional Porterhouse College (by Tom Sharpe), which
    is a delectable novel for anybody interested in heartstopping cuisine.
    The novel is entitled 'Porterhouse Blue', referring to an apoplectic fit
    induced by the Porterhouse kitchen staff <g>. And it contains roast swan
    as the piece the restistance of the annual masters dinner.

    -Peter

    --
    =========================================
    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    But this poster, Terje Tange, is a TROLL, --probably the same one who
    yesterday posted that nasty potato dish, with lime, anchovies, saffron,
    chocolate, etc.

    Nancree

    One wonders. Terje is a typical Norwegian name, and he's posted from
    Norway. And, well, frankly - if asked what national cuisines I found the
    most [appaling] in my travels, I'd have Norway and Scotland at the top
    (closely followed by my adopted home, New Zealand <g>😉. Maybe this
    really is a Norwegian who doesn't know what to do with his big white
    bird ?!? Of course, trolls are plentyful in Norwegian valleys, so this
    could be double whammy.

    -P.

    --
    =========================================
    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com

  3. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > "-L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    > >
    > > Dave Smith wrote:
    > >>
    > >> And when Liz dies that kid with the big ears gets to be Queen.
    > >
    > > No Honey, the young hottie gets to KING me!
    >
    > Btw that kid with the big ears is nearly 60!
    >
    >

    Good gawds..... has it really been THAT long? <sigh>
    No wonder Ms. horse face is cheating on him.

    LOL nooooooooooo Ms horse face was cheating WITH him and they are now
    married

    There was a gossip column circulating the other day that, now that she
    is married to him, she's cheating on him too. ;-)

    Figures. Anyone that is going to be unfaithful with a married man is
    unlikely to have the morals to stay monogamous once married???

    Well I doubt it. They have been together since they were very young.
    They stayed together all through her marriage and through his to Diana.
    She is just being accepted by the establishment and it is hard won.

  4. "Peter Huebner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > ... except for
    the fictional Porterhouse College (by Tom Sharpe), which

    Quoted message said:

    is a delectable novel for anybody interested in heartstopping cuisine.
    The novel is entitled 'Porterhouse Blue', referring to an apoplectic
    fit
    induced by the Porterhouse kitchen staff <g>. And it contains roast
    swan
    as the piece the restistance of the annual masters dinner.

    LOL yes indeed. Tom Sharpe has always been a great favourite of mine
    and Porterhouse Blue is wonderful🙂

  5. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Good gawds..... has it really been THAT long? <sigh>
    No wonder Ms. horse face is cheating on him.

    LOL nooooooooooo Ms horse face was cheating WITH him and they are now
    married.

    I think she's attractive. I'm happy for them, and I sure as hell
    doubt she's cheating on him. Anyway, I don't see that he's such
    a dreamboat that he stooped to marry beneath him. Give the
    woman a break.

    nancy

  6. "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Terje Tange" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Can anybody please help me?
    I have a swan, what shall I do to make it eatable. I have invited 10 for
    dinner.

    What do you suggest?

    Cook it the same way you'd do with Northern pike. Izaak Walton's method:

    Compleat Angler, Book 1, Chapter 8, the fourth day

    ... this direction how to roast him [ie. a pike] when he is caught is
    choicely good, for I have tried it, and it is somewhat the better for
    not being common; but with my direction you must take this caution,
    that your pike must not be a small one, that is, it must be more than
    half a yard, and should be bigger.
    First, open your pike at the gills, and if need be, cut also a
    little slit towards the belly; out of these take his guts and keep
    his liver, which you are to shred very small with thyme, sweet
    marjoram, and a little winter-savory; to these put some pickled
    oysters, and some anchovies, two or three, both these last whole;
    for the anchovies will melt, and the oysters should not: to these
    you must add also a pound of sweet butter, which you are to mix with
    the herbs that are shred, and let them all be well salted: if the
    pike be more than a yard long, then you may put into these herbs more
    than a pound, or if he be less, then less butter will suffice: these
    being thus mixed with a blade or two of mace, must be put into the
    pike's belly, and then his belly so sewed up as to keep all the
    butter in his belly, if it be possible: if not, then as much of it
    as you possibly can; but take not off the scales: then you are to
    thrust the spit through his mouth out at his tail; and then take
    four, five or six split sticks or very thin laths, and a convenient
    quantity of tape or filleting: these laths are to be tied round
    about the pike's body from his head to his tail, and the tape tied
    somewhat thick to prevent his breaking or falling off from the spit:
    let him be roasted very leisurely, and often basted with claret wine
    and anchovies and butter mixed together, and also with what moisture
    falls from him into the pan: when you have roasted him sufficiently,
    you are to hold under him, when you unwind or cut the tape that ties
    him, such a dish as you purpose to eat him out of; and let him fall
    into it with the sauce that is roasted in his belly; and by this
    means the pike will be kept unbroken and complete: then, to the
    sauce which was within, and also that sauce in the pan, you are to
    add a fit quantity of the best butter, and to squeeze the juice of
    three or four oranges: lastly, you may either put into the pike with
    the oysters two cloves of garlick, and take it whole out, when the
    pike is cut off the spit; or to give the sauce a _haut-gout_ let the
    dish into which you let the pike fall be rubbed with it: the using
    or not using of this garlick is left to your discretion. - M.B.
    This dish of meat is too good for any but anglers, or very honest
    men; and I trust you will prove both, and therefore I have trusted
    you with this secret.

    Love it, just love the language of it. Recipe sounds half decent as well.

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  7. "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ian said:

    Have you considered making a SwaTurDucKen
    Debone:

    1 Chicken
    1 Duck
    1 Turkey
    1 Swan

    Stuff the hen as you will.
    Stuff the Hen into the Duck.
    Stuff the Duck into the Turkey
    Stuff the Turkey into the Swan.

    Bring a 45 gallon drum of peanut oil to a rolling boil.
    Drop the SwaTurDucKen in and fry the bejeezus out of it.

    You can fit a quail inside the chicken, too, making a SwaTurDuChiQuail.

    Bob

    Tuck the whole thing into an ostrich and we've got the


    OstSwaTurDuChiQuail.

    Now THAT'S just crazy-talk.

    Shaun aRe

  8. "Shaun aRe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Terje Tange" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Can anybody please help me?
    I have a swan, what shall I do to make it eatable. I have invited 10
    for
    dinner.

    What do you suggest?

    Cook it the same way you'd do with Northern pike. Izaak Walton's method:

    Compleat Angler, Book 1, Chapter 8, the fourth day

    ... this direction how to roast him [ie. a pike] when he is caught is
    choicely good, for I have tried it, and it is somewhat the better for
    not being common; but with my direction you must take this caution,
    that your pike must not be a small one, that is, it must be more than
    half a yard, and should be bigger.
    First, open your pike at the gills, and if need be, cut also a
    little slit towards the belly; out of these take his guts and keep
    his liver, which you are to shred very small with thyme, sweet
    marjoram, and a little winter-savory; to these put some pickled
    oysters, and some anchovies, two or three, both these last whole;
    for the anchovies will melt, and the oysters should not: to these
    you must add also a pound of sweet butter, which you are to mix with
    the herbs that are shred, and let them all be well salted: if the
    pike be more than a yard long, then you may put into these herbs more
    than a pound, or if he be less, then less butter will suffice: these
    being thus mixed with a blade or two of mace, must be put into the
    pike's belly, and then his belly so sewed up as to keep all the
    butter in his belly, if it be possible: if not, then as much of it
    as you possibly can; but take not off the scales: then you are to
    thrust the spit through his mouth out at his tail; and then take
    four, five or six split sticks or very thin laths, and a convenient
    quantity of tape or filleting: these laths are to be tied round
    about the pike's body from his head to his tail, and the tape tied
    somewhat thick to prevent his breaking or falling off from the spit:
    let him be roasted very leisurely, and often basted with claret wine
    and anchovies and butter mixed together, and also with what moisture
    falls from him into the pan: when you have roasted him sufficiently,
    you are to hold under him, when you unwind or cut the tape that ties
    him, such a dish as you purpose to eat him out of; and let him fall
    into it with the sauce that is roasted in his belly; and by this
    means the pike will be kept unbroken and complete: then, to the
    sauce which was within, and also that sauce in the pan, you are to
    add a fit quantity of the best butter, and to squeeze the juice of
    three or four oranges: lastly, you may either put into the pike with
    the oysters two cloves of garlick, and take it whole out, when the
    pike is cut off the spit; or to give the sauce a _haut-gout_ let the
    dish into which you let the pike fall be rubbed with it: the using
    or not using of this garlick is left to your discretion. - M.B.
    This dish of meat is too good for any but anglers, or very honest
    men; and I trust you will prove both, and therefore I have trusted
    you with this secret.

    Love it, just love the language of it. Recipe sounds half decent as well.

    ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

    ....especially what sounds like 3 lbs of butter. :-) Unfortunately, Mr.
    Walton never explained a good way to filet a pike while effectively dealing
    with their bizarre bone structure. That took another 300 years.

  9. "Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Terje Tange said:

    Can anybody please help me?
    I have a swan, what shall I do to make it eatable. I have invited 10 for
    dinner.

    What do you suggest?

    Terje Tange


    I always thought that swans are protected and may not be eaten in the USA.
    Am I wrong? Does someone know?

    Nobody eats swans. Nobody kills swans. Perhaps they are inedible as well as
    protected.
    Cheers
    Pandora

  10. Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
    so great) words of knowledge:

    Quoted message said:

    Can anybody please help me?
    I have a swan, what shall I do to make it eatable. I have invited 10 for
    dinner.

    What do you suggest?

    Terje Tange

    Swans are "supposed" to be protected by law, so consuming one may be a
    violation.

    I have never cooked a swan, however an "acquaintance" of mine from
    europe has eaten swan before. This person says to treat it like a wild
    game bird (wild turkey, duck, etc.) for removing the wild/gamey taste.
    One of the marinades to minimize/remove the wild/gamey taste would be
    good, then treat it as a goose or turkey for cooking.

    Swan is not as greasy/loaded with fat as a goose so keep this in mind
    when cooking. He indicated that you may (probably) need to baste it a
    little more frequently than a turkey.

    Hope this helps.

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Ophelia said:

    "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> "-L." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email hidden]...
    >> >
    >> > Dave Smith wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> And when Liz dies that kid with the big ears gets to be Queen.
    >> >
    >> > No Honey, the young hottie gets to KING me!
    >>
    >> Btw that kid with the big ears is nearly 60!
    >>
    >>
    >
    > Good gawds..... has it really been THAT long? <sigh>
    > No wonder Ms. horse face is cheating on him.

    LOL nooooooooooo Ms horse face was cheating WITH him and they are now
    married

    There was a gossip column circulating the other day that, now that she
    is married to him, she's cheating on him too. ;-)

    Figures. Anyone that is going to be unfaithful with a married man is
    unlikely to have the morals to stay monogamous once married???

    Well I doubt it. They have been together since they were very young.
    They stayed together all through her marriage and through his to Diana.
    She is just being accepted by the establishment and it is hard won.

    I wish her luck... and hope that it is indeed just unwarranted gossip.
    You know how the papparazi are!

    Cheers!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  12. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Peter Huebner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > ... except for
    the fictional Porterhouse College (by Tom Sharpe), which

    Quoted message said:

    is a delectable novel for anybody interested in heartstopping cuisine.
    The novel is entitled 'Porterhouse Blue', referring to an apoplectic fit
    induced by the Porterhouse kitchen staff <g>. And it contains roast swan
    as the piece the restistance of the annual masters dinner.

    LOL yes indeed. Tom Sharpe has always been a great favourite of mine and
    Porterhouse Blue is wonderful🙂


    Ah! An author i haven't read. And I just found out how many books he's
    written and can't find half of them! Sheesh.

    MoM

  13. ms_peacock said:


    Several states have crane seasons.

    Are you a transvestite... a female would be ms_peahen.

    Sheldon

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:
    ms_peacock said:


    Several states have crane seasons.

    Are you a transvestite... a female would be ms_peahen.

    Sheldon

    Unless her last name is "Peacock". I had a male and female co-worker
    (married couple) who's last name was "Peacock".

    Cheers dear!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  15. "Pandora" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel
    messaggio news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Terje Tange said:

    Can anybody please help me?
    I have a swan, what shall I do to make it eatable. I have invited 10 for
    dinner.

    What do you suggest?

    Terje Tange


    I always thought that swans are protected and may not be eaten in the
    USA. Am I wrong? Does someone know?

    Nobody eats swans. Nobody kills swans. Perhaps they are inedible as well
    as protected.
    Cheers
    Pandora

    Yes people eat swans. Yes people hunt swans.

    Ms P

  16. Pandora said:

    "Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I always thought that swans are protected and may not be eaten in the USA.
    Am I wrong? Does someone know?

    Nobody eats swans. Nobody kills swans. Perhaps they are inedible as well as
    protected.
    Cheers
    Pandora

    Pandora, you are right. It would be like eating an elf or a
    leprechaun and nobody would ever do that.

    Living in Italy, I am certain that you see in the little man made
    lakes in most parks at least one pair of beautiful swans, for the
    visitors to admire and feed. The real lakes probably have many swans.
    Those beautiful birds and large clocks made of flowers are something
    I do not see in most American parks. :o(

  17. "D.Currie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Bob Terwilliger" <virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ian said:

    Have you considered making a SwaTurDucKen
    Debone:

    1 Chicken
    1 Duck
    1 Turkey
    1 Swan

    Stuff the hen as you will.
    Stuff the Hen into the Duck.
    Stuff the Duck into the Turkey
    Stuff the Turkey into the Swan.

    Bring a 45 gallon drum of peanut oil to a rolling boil.
    Drop the SwaTurDucKen in and fry the bejeezus out of it.

    You can fit a quail inside the chicken, too, making a SwaTurDuChiQuail.

    Bob

    Tuck the whole thing into an ostrich and we've got the
    OstSwaTurDuChiQuail.

    I'll bet you could get a crane between the Ost and the Swa and make it a
    OstCraSwaTurDuChiQuail.

    And yes, you can hunt cranes. Several states have crane seasons.

    Ms P

  18. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    ms_peacock said:


    Several states have crane seasons.

    Are you a transvestite... a female would be ms_peahen.

    Sheldon


    No. I'm Ms Peacock because the granddaughters always get to be Ms Scarlett
    so they can go first.

    Ms P

  19. Quoted message said:

    Have you considered making a SwaTurDucKen
    Debone:

    1 Chicken
    1 Duck
    1 Turkey
    1 Swan

    Stuff the hen as you will.
    Stuff the Hen into the Duck.
    Stuff the Duck into the Turkey
    Stuff the Turkey into the Swan.

    Seriously, the old swan won't be elegant with a turkey stuffed inside.

    There was an old woman who swollowed a fly... and surely won't be able to
    fly! (That goes for the swan as well. Anyway, ugly ducklings are young swans
    so this might be cannibalism?)

    Pål Ivar,
    Norway
    (where swans are hunted legally)

  20. Ms_peacock replied to Sheldon:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Are you a transvestite... a female would be ms_peahen.

    Sheldon


    No. I'm Ms Peacock because the granddaughters always get to be Ms
    Scarlett so they can go first.

    Pay no attention to Colonel MustBeARetard. He doesn't have a Clue.

    Bob

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