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  1. OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators in the
    Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator - ended in a scene
    as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so gruesomely
    it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of either creature.

    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in Everglades
    National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded from the ruptured
    gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    For scientists, exactly how the clash occurred is a compelling curiosity.
    More importantly, the latest and most extraordinary encounter provides
    disturbing evidence that giant exotic snakes, which can top 20 feet in
    length and kill by squeezing the life out of prey, have not only invaded the
    Everglades but also could challenge the native gator for a perch atop the
    food chain.

    "It's just off-the-charts absurd to think that this kind of animal, a
    significant top-of-the-pyramid kind of predator in its native land, is
    trying to make a living in South Florida," said park biologist Skip Snow,
    who has been tracking the spread of the snakes.

    Pythons, likely abandoned by pet owners, have been seen in the Everglades
    since the 1980s. But in the past two years alone, Snow has documented 156
    python captures, a surge that has convinced biologists the snakes are
    multiplying in the wild.

    The growing population of big, scary predators also raises questions about
    threats to native species and whether anything indigenous - gators, for
    starters - might be capable of consuming and potentially controlling one of
    the world's largest snake species.

    The latest find was spotted floating in a spike rush marsh in the Shark
    River Slough on Sept. 26 by Michael Barron, a helicopter pilot. It was
    examined the next day by Snow.

    The discovery confirmed that snakes and gators, while typically consuming
    less troublesome mammals, turtles and birds, have an appetite for each
    other - at least when the opportunity presents itself.

    The first observed encounter in the park occurred three years ago when
    awestruck onlookers at the popular Anhinga Trail boardwalk witnessed a
    tussle between a 10- to 15-foot snake and 6- to 9-foot gator. That fight,
    which lasted an estimated 24 hours, ended in an apparent draw, with both
    swimming off and vanishing.

    Such clashes, though spawned by damaging incursion by an exotic species,
    can't help but fascinate both the public and scientists, said Frank
    Mazzotti, a University of Florida wildlife professor. Mazzotti said size
    would probably dictate which species would win most encounters.

  2. small change said:

    OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators
    in the Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator -
    ended in a scene as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so
    gruesomely it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of
    either creature.
    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in
    Everglades National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded
    from the ruptured gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    here's the photo, hoping you don't have to login to get the AP image

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/stories/2005/oct/6/aw_gator-python-mi06.IMG_10-06-2005_JV5ME82.jpg

    " This photo provided by Everglades National Park shows the carcass of a
    6-foot American alligator protruding from the mid-section of a 13-foot
    Burmese python. (Associated Press ) "

  3. small change said:
    small change said:

    OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators
    in the Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator -
    ended in a scene as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so
    gruesomely it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of
    either creature.
    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in
    Everglades National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded
    from the ruptured gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    here's the photo, hoping you don't have to login to get the AP image

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/stories/2005/oct/6/aw_gator-python-mi06.IMG_10-06-2005_JV5ME82.jpg

    " This photo provided by Everglades National Park shows the carcass of a
    6-foot American alligator protruding from the mid-section of a 13-foot
    Burmese python. (Associated Press ) "

    Jeez, that's some crazy stuff. And seems to be part of a pattern of
    strange animal behavior:

    http://www.pbfcomics.com/temporary/PBF068ADUtterPig.html

    /s

  4. small change said:
    small change said:

    OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators
    in the Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator -
    ended in a scene as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so
    gruesomely it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of
    either creature.
    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in
    Everglades National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded
    from the ruptured gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    here's the photo, hoping you don't have to login to get the AP image

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/stories/2005/oct/6/aw_gator-python-mi06.IMG_10-06-2005_JV5ME82.jpg

    " This photo provided by Everglades National Park shows the carcass
    of a 6-foot American alligator protruding from the mid-section of a
    13-foot Burmese python. (Associated Press ) "

    Not that I doubted you, but...

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/snakegator.asp

  5. small change said:
    small change said:

    OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators
    in the Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator -
    ended in a scene as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so
    gruesomely it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of
    either creature.
    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in
    Everglades National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded
    from the ruptured gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    here's the photo, hoping you don't have to login to get the AP image

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/stories/2005/oct/6/aw_gator-python-mi06.IMG_10-06-2005_JV5ME82.jpg

    " This photo provided by Everglades National Park shows the carcass
    of a 6-foot American alligator protruding from the mid-section of a
    13-foot Burmese python. (Associated Press ) "

    Here's a better picture that shows the correct head and tail orientation:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/images/051006_pythoneatsgator.jpg

    --
    Phil, Squid-in-Training

  6. Bill Sornson said:
    small change said:
    small change said:

    OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators
    in the Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator -
    ended in a scene as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so
    gruesomely it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of
    either creature.
    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in
    Everglades National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded
    from the ruptured gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    here's the photo, hoping you don't have to login to get the AP image

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/stories/2005/oct/6/aw_gator-python-mi06.IMG_10-06-2005_JV5ME82.jpg

    " This photo provided by Everglades National Park shows the carcass
    of a 6-foot American alligator protruding from the mid-section of a
    13-foot Burmese python. (Associated Press ) "

    Not that I doubted you, but...

    http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/snakegator.asp

    is the AP ever wrong?
    and amazingly enough I still have those pics of a python that ate a cow...

  7. small change said:

    OT. Bizarre imagery, frankly a little disturbing...

    MIAMI - A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators in the
    Everglades - a Burmese python and an American alligator - ended in a scene
    as rare as it was bizarre.

    The 13-foot-snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so gruesomely
    it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of either creature.

    When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in Everglades
    National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded from the ruptured
    gut of a python - which had swallowed it whole.

    As an added touch of the macabre, the snake's head was missing.

    For scientists, exactly how the clash occurred is a compelling curiosity.
    More importantly, the latest and most extraordinary encounter provides
    disturbing evidence that giant exotic snakes, which can top 20 feet in
    length and kill by squeezing the life out of prey, have not only invaded the
    Everglades but also could challenge the native gator for a perch atop the
    food chain.

    "It's just off-the-charts absurd to think that this kind of animal, a
    significant top-of-the-pyramid kind of predator in its native land, is
    trying to make a living in South Florida," said park biologist Skip Snow,
    who has been tracking the spread of the snakes.

    Pythons, likely abandoned by pet owners, have been seen in the Everglades
    since the 1980s. But in the past two years alone, Snow has documented 156
    python captures, a surge that has convinced biologists the snakes are
    multiplying in the wild.

    The growing population of big, scary predators also raises questions about
    threats to native species and whether anything indigenous - gators, for
    starters - might be capable of consuming and potentially controlling one of
    the world's largest snake species.

    The latest find was spotted floating in a spike rush marsh in the Shark
    River Slough on Sept. 26 by Michael Barron, a helicopter pilot. It was
    examined the next day by Snow.

    The discovery confirmed that snakes and gators, while typically consuming
    less troublesome mammals, turtles and birds, have an appetite for each
    other - at least when the opportunity presents itself.

    The first observed encounter in the park occurred three years ago when
    awestruck onlookers at the popular Anhinga Trail boardwalk witnessed a
    tussle between a 10- to 15-foot snake and 6- to 9-foot gator. That fight,
    which lasted an estimated 24 hours, ended in an apparent draw, with both
    swimming off and vanishing.

    Such clashes, though spawned by damaging incursion by an exotic species,
    can't help but fascinate both the public and scientists, said Frank
    Mazzotti, a University of Florida wildlife professor. Mazzotti said size
    would probably dictate which species would win most encounters.


    Someone, please send one of those little snakes over to my 'hood
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4811662 Coming up
    on two months, and we still can't bag the dude. We imported expert
    gator hunters from Colorado and Florida, tried to lurer him out of the
    water with grocery chickens & tortillas... And nada... the Beast lives :-)

    --
    Slack

  8. Sounds suspiciously to me like a redneck recipe gone wrong. Take one
    python, stuff with an alligator and allow to ripen in nearby swamp.

  9. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Sounds suspiciously to me like a redneck recipe gone wrong. Take one
    python, stuff with an alligator and allow to ripen in nearby swamp.

    LMMFAO!

    HEY, YOU CAN'T SAY STUFF LIKE THAT IT'S REDNECKIST!

    Shaun aRe

  10. what you didn't hear was that the gator was stuffed with catfish which
    was stuffed with squirrel which was stuffed with crawfish.
    Five course meal you see.
    Steve.

  11. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    what you didn't hear was that the gator was stuffed with catfish which
    was stuffed with squirrel which was stuffed with crawfish.
    Five course meal you see.
    Steve.

    No okra?

    Shaun aRe

  12. Look mister, this ain't no la-de-dah recipe like you may be used to, if
    it hasn't got eyes it doesn't go in okay?
    Steve.

  13. Shaun aRe said:

    "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    what you didn't hear was that the gator was stuffed with catfish
    which was stuffed with squirrel which was stuffed with crawfish.
    Five course meal you see.
    Steve.

    No okra?

    Shaun aRe

    why do I have the urge to say
    "hold my beer and watch this!"

    ~P.

  14. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Look mister, this ain't no la-de-dah recipe like you may be used to, if
    it hasn't got eyes it doesn't go in okay?
    Steve.

    An' oktra ain't no 'la-de-da' food neither bwoy! Is good Southern eatin'

    Shaun aRe

  15. "small change" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun aRe said:

    "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    what you didn't hear was that the gator was stuffed with catfish
    which was stuffed with squirrel which was stuffed with crawfish.
    Five course meal you see.
    Steve.

    No okra?

    Shaun aRe

    why do I have the urge to say
    "hold my beer and watch this!"

    ~P.

    You drink Coors and shoot road signs?

    Shaun aRe

  16. Now *that's* funny

    Quoted message said:

    if it hasn't got eyes it doesn't go in okay?

  17. spademan o---) * said:

    what you didn't hear was that the gator was stuffed with catfish which
    was stuffed with squirrel which was stuffed with crawfish.
    Five course meal you see.
    Steve.

    Sounds like the mythical (I hope) 'Turducken', which I've heard
    referred to with reverence by John Madden Sunday afternoons between
    Thanksgiving and Xmas. It's turkey, stuffed with duck, stuffed with
    chicken. I'm sure it's delicious, but it's making me consider
    revisiting my brief foray into vegetarianism.
    Let's see, python snake > gator > catfish > squirrel > crawfish >
    okra...

    Pygacatsquicrawkra!

    /s

  18. "Slack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Someone, please send one of those little snakes over to my 'hood
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4811662 Coming up
    on two months, and we still can't bag the dude. We imported expert
    gator hunters from Colorado and Florida, tried to lurer him out of the
    water with grocery chickens & tortillas... And nada... the Beast lives :-)

    Tell me about it. My future mother-in-law lives in Pedro and the touristas
    are getting out of hand.

    Greg

  19. Slack wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Someone, please send one of those little snakes over to my 'hood
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4811662 Coming up
    on two months, and we still can't bag the dude. We imported expert
    gator hunters from Colorado and Florida, tried to lurer him out of the
    water with grocery chickens & tortillas... And nada... the Beast lives :-)

    --
    Slack

    Crikey! Want us to send over the Croc Hunter? :grin:

    -Nick

  20. Nick said:

    Slack wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Someone, please send one of those little snakes over to my 'hood
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4811662 Coming up
    on two months, and we still can't bag the dude. We imported expert
    gator hunters from Colorado and Florida, tried to lurer him out of the
    water with grocery chickens & tortillas... And nada... the Beast lives :-)

    --
    Slack

    Crikey! Want us to send over the Croc Hunter? :grin:

    -Nick


    Do it. Hopefully it's a chick; I would love to see a female croc hunter :-)

    --
    Slack - type that 5x as fast as you can

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