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  1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4624278.stm

    Olympic cycling network unveiled
    A vision for a network of traffic-free walking and cycling routes in
    east London is to be unveiled.

    GOAL 2012 (Greenways for Olympics and London) aims to create a 450-mile
    long sustainable transport system for the Olympic Games and future
    generations.

    It proposes three routes to the Olympic Park in Stratford and a new
    walking and cycling bridge across the Thames.

    Transport charity Sustrans, which is backing the scheme, said some
    routes could be up and running by 2007.

    Three proposed routes to the Olympic Park will run from Broxbourne in
    Herts, Croydon in south London and Wimbledon in south-west London. A new
    lifting/swing cycle bridge would span the Thames from Rotherhithe to
    Canary Wharf.

    'Green' network

    One of the key routes is the East London Elevated Greenway which would
    connect communities in east London directly to the Olympic Park.

    Sustrans said the five-mile route, which follows the line of the
    historic Northern Outfall sewer, will provide a safe and attractive way
    for local people to get to and from the Games.

    John Grimshaw, Sustrans' chief executive, said: "There is already a
    demand for better cycling and walking routes in the capital.

    "And, during the Olympics 78% of spectators will be travelling to the
    Games from within London, with 4 million people living within a
    40-minute cycle ride of an Olympic venue."

    Mr Grimshaw said Sustrans was capable of creating "a truly green network
    to make cycling and walking a realistic and appealing option during the
    Games and for future generations of Londoners".

    Sustrans is working with Transport for London (TfL) on the plans and is
    asking people to show their support for the scheme by logging onto their
    website.

  2. Richard said:

    Sustrans is working with Transport for London (TfL) on the plans and is
    asking people to show their support for the scheme by logging onto their
    website.

    Unfortunately (he said, replying to his own post for the sake of clarity
    rather than appending to it), their website first has a big button
    saying "Click here to support...". If you click, it thanks you for your
    support (!), gives you no details at all about it, and then drops you
    into a yes/no questionnaire asking if you support it.

    The principle sounds fine. The devil, however, may well be lurking in
    the detail.

    R.

  3. Richard said:

    Richard wrote:

    The principle sounds fine. The devil, however, may well be lurking in
    the detail.

    Yeah, sounds excellent. Any mention of bike parking facilities,
    though? I guess rental bikes should be a good business during the
    Olympics, and this should encourage businesses to accomdate
    bicycle-borne customers.

  4. "Richard" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4624278.stm

    Olympic cycling network unveiled
    A vision for a network of traffic-free walking and cycling routes in east
    London is to be unveiled.

    GOAL 2012 (Greenways for Olympics and London) aims to create a 450-mile
    long sustainable transport system for the Olympic Games and future
    generations.

    It proposes three routes to the Olympic Park in Stratford and a new
    walking and cycling bridge across the Thames.

    Transport charity Sustrans, which is backing the scheme, said some routes
    could be up and running by 2007.

    Three proposed routes to the Olympic Park will run from Broxbourne in
    Herts, Croydon in south London and Wimbledon in south-west London. A new
    lifting/swing cycle bridge would span the Thames from Rotherhithe to
    Canary Wharf.

    'Green' network

    One of the key routes is the East London Elevated Greenway which would
    connect communities in east London directly to the Olympic Park.

    Sustrans said the five-mile route, which follows the line of the historic
    Northern Outfall sewer, will provide a safe and attractive way for local
    people to get to and from the Games.

    John Grimshaw, Sustrans' chief executive, said: "There is already a demand
    for better cycling and walking routes in the capital.

    "And, during the Olympics 78% of spectators will be travelling to the
    Games from within London, with 4 million people living within a 40-minute
    cycle ride of an Olympic venue."

    Mr Grimshaw said Sustrans was capable of creating "a truly green network
    to make cycling and walking a realistic and appealing option during the
    Games and for future generations of Londoners".

    Sustrans is working with Transport for London (TfL) on the plans and is
    asking people to show their support for the scheme by logging onto their
    website.

    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at the
    Olympic stadium :-))

    Seriously, great news BUT the cycle parking issue is a serious one ... I
    don't go to large stadia very often by bike but I can't think of any with
    significant secure cycle parking. What sort of facilities does the "new"
    Wembley have ? - or the stadium in Cardiff ?

    RG

  5. "sothach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Richard said:

    Richard wrote:

    The principle sounds fine. The devil, however, may well be lurking in
    the detail.

    Yeah, sounds excellent. Any mention of bike parking facilities,
    though? I guess rental bikes should be a good business during the
    Olympics, and this should encourage businesses to accomdate
    bicycle-borne customers.

    IIRC one of the features of the Olympic French bid was for n thousand
    bikes to be made available to the competitors and officials .... has Ken got
    anything similar in mind for Olympic bikes ?

    ..... I can see the "collector's item" ads on ebay already .....

    RG

  6. RG said:

    "Richard" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4624278.stm

    Olympic cycling network unveiled
    A vision for a network of traffic-free walking and cycling routes in east
    London is to be unveiled.

    GOAL 2012 (Greenways for Olympics and London) aims to create a 450-mile
    long sustainable transport system for the Olympic Games and future
    generations.

    It proposes three routes to the Olympic Park in Stratford and a new
    walking and cycling bridge across the Thames.

    Transport charity Sustrans, which is backing the scheme, said some routes
    could be up and running by 2007.

    Three proposed routes to the Olympic Park will run from Broxbourne in
    Herts, Croydon in south London and Wimbledon in south-west London. A new
    lifting/swing cycle bridge would span the Thames from Rotherhithe to
    Canary Wharf.

    'Green' network

    One of the key routes is the East London Elevated Greenway which would
    connect communities in east London directly to the Olympic Park.

    Sustrans said the five-mile route, which follows the line of the historic
    Northern Outfall sewer, will provide a safe and attractive way for local
    people to get to and from the Games.

    John Grimshaw, Sustrans' chief executive, said: "There is already a demand
    for better cycling and walking routes in the capital.

    "And, during the Olympics 78% of spectators will be travelling to the
    Games from within London, with 4 million people living within a 40-minute
    cycle ride of an Olympic venue."

    Mr Grimshaw said Sustrans was capable of creating "a truly green network
    to make cycling and walking a realistic and appealing option during the
    Games and for future generations of Londoners".

    Sustrans is working with Transport for London (TfL) on the plans and is
    asking people to show their support for the scheme by logging onto their
    website.

    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at the
    Olympic stadium :-))

    Seriously, great news BUT the cycle parking issue is a serious one ... I
    don't go to large stadia very often by bike but I can't think of any with
    significant secure cycle parking. What sort of facilities does the "new"
    Wembley have ? - or the stadium in Cardiff ?

    RG

    Not a big stadium, but I once cycled from Reading to Aldershot to see a
    football match. Left my bike chained to the railings ouside the ground.

  7. RG said:

    "Richard" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4624278.stm

    Olympic cycling network unveiled
    A vision for a network of traffic-free walking and cycling routes in east
    London is to be unveiled.

    GOAL 2012 (Greenways for Olympics and London) aims to create a 450-mile
    long sustainable transport system for the Olympic Games and future
    generations.

    It proposes three routes to the Olympic Park in Stratford and a new
    walking and cycling bridge across the Thames.

    Transport charity Sustrans, which is backing the scheme, said some routes
    could be up and running by 2007.

    Three proposed routes to the Olympic Park will run from Broxbourne in
    Herts, Croydon in south London and Wimbledon in south-west London. A new
    lifting/swing cycle bridge would span the Thames from Rotherhithe to
    Canary Wharf.

    'Green' network

    One of the key routes is the East London Elevated Greenway which would
    connect communities in east London directly to the Olympic Park.

    Sustrans said the five-mile route, which follows the line of the historic
    Northern Outfall sewer, will provide a safe and attractive way for local
    people to get to and from the Games.

    John Grimshaw, Sustrans' chief executive, said: "There is already a demand
    for better cycling and walking routes in the capital.

    "And, during the Olympics 78% of spectators will be travelling to the
    Games from within London, with 4 million people living within a 40-minute
    cycle ride of an Olympic venue."

    Mr Grimshaw said Sustrans was capable of creating "a truly green network
    to make cycling and walking a realistic and appealing option during the
    Games and for future generations of Londoners".

    Sustrans is working with Transport for London (TfL) on the plans and is
    asking people to show their support for the scheme by logging onto their
    website.

    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at the
    Olympic stadium :-))

    Seriously, great news BUT the cycle parking issue is a serious one ... I
    don't go to large stadia very often by bike but I can't think of any with
    significant secure cycle parking. What sort of facilities does the "new"
    Wembley have ? - or the stadium in Cardiff ?

    RG

    Not a big stadium, but I once cycled from Reading to Aldershot to see a
    football match. Left my bike chained to the railings ouside the ground.

    This was one of my first cycling adventures. It was dark by the time I
    got back, no problem I had might lights. I celebrated my execursion
    with fish & chips and 2 bottles of Dog.

  8. RG said:

    Seriously, great news BUT the cycle parking issue is a serious one ... I
    don't go to large stadia very often by bike but I can't think of any with
    significant secure cycle parking. What sort of facilities does the "new"
    Wembley have ? - or the stadium in Cardiff ?

    Twickenham has a lot of railings to which there are a fair few bikes
    locked on match days; the stewards didn't seem to mind.

    R.

  9. "Richard" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    RG said:

    Seriously, great news BUT the cycle parking issue is a serious one ... I
    don't go to large stadia very often by bike but I can't think of any with
    significant secure cycle parking. What sort of facilities does the "new"
    Wembley have ? - or the stadium in Cardiff ?

    Twickenham has a lot of railings to which there are a fair few bikes
    locked on match days; the stewards didn't seem to mind.

    Wow, cycling back after watching a rugby match. I've never heard of anything
    so dangerous! (Hint .. there's usually a lot of drinking going on!)

    For anyone that knows Twickenham station on match day .. It was hilarious
    when they asked over the tannoy could we "please stagger our journeys home".
    Like we needed an excuse to go to a pub to wait ..

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, elyob

    () said:

    Wow, cycling back after watching a rugby match. I've never heard of anything
    so dangerous! (Hint .. there's usually a lot of drinking going on!)

    For anyone that knows Twickenham station on match day .. It was hilarious
    when they asked over the tannoy could we "please stagger our journeys home".
    Like we needed an excuse to go to a pub to wait ..

    I should imagine that most present were staggering already...

    (dies)

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    World Domination? Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then
    chain to the floor and walk up and down on it in high heels.

  11. RG said:


    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at the
    Olympic stadium :-))

    Not true, they are buying them to block access to the cycling network
    in the traditional Sustrans stylee. There will be no cycle parking in
    case the bicycles are being used by terrorists.

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  12. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    RG said:


    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at
    the Olympic stadium :-))

    Not true, they are buying them to block access to the cycling network in
    the traditional Sustrans stylee. There will be no cycle parking in case
    the bicycles are being used by terrorists.

    --
    Tony

    Very good, although I had assumed a rather more robust type of barrier would
    have been erected (at 100m intervals) to stop those Johnny Foreigners who
    might be about on bicycles!

    RG

  13. RG said:

    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at
    the Olympic stadium :-))

    :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Seriously, great news BUT the cycle parking issue is a serious one ... I
    don't go to large stadia very often by bike but I can't think of any with
    significant secure cycle parking. What sort of facilities does the "new"
    Wembley have ? - or the stadium in Cardiff ?

    There are quite a few Sheffield stands outside St. Mary's stadium here in
    Southampton. I've only ever seen one bike attached to them though...

    --
    Chris

    Katz' Law: Man and nations will act rationally when all other possibilities
    have been exhausted.

  14. Quoted message said:

    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at the
    Olympic stadium :-))

    Pah...The great cycling city of York installed 6 (or was it 8?)
    Sheffield stands for it's Royal Ascot at York meet last year. Parking
    was made available for around 9000 cars, with car access to the car
    parks along some of York's key usually traffic-free cycling routes.

    In a 59 page management plan for traffic and transport, cycling
    received a curt 7-lines, (for those interested it's still at
    www.york.gov.uk/ascot/plan/walkingcycling.pdf ).

    PD

  15. PD said:
    Quoted message said:

    I understand that TfL will be seeking tenders for 4 Sheffield stands at the
    Olympic stadium :-))

    Pah...The great cycling city of York installed 6 (or was it 8?)
    Sheffield stands for it's Royal Ascot at York meet last year. Parking
    was made available for around 9000 cars, with car access to the car
    parks along some of York's key usually traffic-free cycling routes.

    In a 59 page management plan for traffic and transport, cycling
    received a curt 7-lines, (for those interested it's still at
    www.york.gov.uk/ascot/plan/walkingcycling.pdf ).

    Safety and security considerations?
    Surely you can kill more people and carry a bigger bomb in a car than
    on a bike.

    ...d

  16. Chris Slade said:


    There are quite a few Sheffield stands outside St. Mary's stadium here in
    Southampton. I've only ever seen one bike attached to them though...

    The Saints have a fan? Surely not!

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  17. Tony Raven said:


    The Saints have a fan? Surely not!

    I was once one.

    Once.

    John B

  18. John B said:
    Tony Raven said:

    The Saints have a fan? Surely not!

    I was once one.

    Once.

    So that was your bike then? ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  19. Tony Raven said:
    John B said:
    Tony Raven said:

    The Saints have a fan? Surely not!

    I was once one.

    Once.

    So that was your bike then? ;-)

    Nah - it was at the Dell.
    Saints v ManU, Ron Davies scored.
    I've still got the programme.

    John B

  20. Richard said:

    It proposes three routes to the Olympic Park in Stratford and a new
    walking and cycling bridge across the Thames.

    Proposed bridge would be really near where I live.
    There is a green space where the construction site and shaft for lowering
    the tunnel boring machines for the Jubilee Line extension was, right
    beside the Thames. There is an air shaft and emergency access there now.
    My guess would be the east end of the bridge there.

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