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  1. Just on a Japanese bidder site

    http://www.bidders.co.jp/item/57868131

    with 3 suspendsions on the ring
    disc brake
    bicycle style seat
    adjustable handle bar (maybe too close to rider)
    a rear wheel ! (how do I dispose it?)

    Hope they make a 26" model !

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  2. To me this looks like:

    A unicycle with a suspension hub, with added handlebars and trailing
    "dog wheel".

    OK, so remove the handlebars and trailing wheel. -We -all know that
    handlebars like that would not help you to ride a unicycle, and might
    even be dangerous. They are for novelty value.

    The trailing wheel is further evidence that this machine is a novelty
    toy, not a proper unicycle.

    So, we've cut away the fripperies: what do we have? A unicycle with a
    disc brake (brakes on unicycles don't need to be as er... sudden... as
    a disc brake can be) and a suspension hub.

    There's nothing clever about having a brake on a unicycle - it's a
    readily available option from UDC.

    So, we have a unicycle with a suspension hub.

    Now that is interesting. It gives a form of suspension that keeps the
    critical seat:pedal distance constant, unlike suspension forks or a
    suspension seat post.

    Presumably, those springs are damped? Otherwise, they must either be
    so stiff as to be for show only, or so soft as to make it unrideable.

    Also, there are three springs, meaning that the support offered by the
    springs will vary at different stages in the revolution of the wheel.
    Interesting, but not good.

    And what will happen to the effective "gearing" of the unicycle as the
    hub moves closer to or further from the rim when you hit a bump?

    Triumph (I think) made a suspension hub for motorcycles many years ago.
    It had numerous single-bladed leaf springs and allowed only a small
    amount of movement between the inner hub and outer hub. It was not a
    major success - indeed, you will find that Aprilia, BMW, Cagiva, CCM,
    Ducati, Enfield, Harley Davidson, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM, MZ, Suzuki,
    Vespa and Yamaha (to name but a few) have moved away from the
    suspension hub idea and introduced systems that work!

    So, what we have is an interesting novelty, that is probably poorly
    made, is certainly poorly designed, and would not improve your
    unicycling experience. If your demon leads you towards novelty
    unicycles, I'd suggest get an eccentric wheel built and put odd cranks
    on, or offset the cranks by 90 degrees, or fit them kangaroo style.

    Does that sound negative?😉 BUt hey, it looks fun. Just don't buy
    one - borrow one.😄

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  3. 'Being pleasant, you in the
    トリコ of the MAX challenger!
    This interest is dangerous!' (http://tinyurl.com/9efl8)

    😄

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  4. Has anyone ever ridden a suspension hub? I thought of putting suspension
    coils in a rim before I ever heard of it, and I can't help but think
    that having one of the "spokes" compress would require the others to
    extend, which would require different type of suspension unit than is
    commonly used. I am just curious if it works, particularly for hopping.

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  5. That back wheel looks as though it'd come off pretty easily, with an
    allen wrench or something.... and that Uni does look pretty awesome...
    I'd ride one.

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  6. How come cockamamey (don't know how to spell that) novelty cycles like
    this one are always shown and demonstrated with the seat way too low?
    Always seems like a way to identify if they're really serious about
    people actually riding the thing.

    But the suspension system looks fascinating. I sure would like to
    see/hear about how it works! The rear wheel looks like something to
    help you from going over the back, and the disc brake is a joke (it's a
    20" fixed wheel, right?).

    But I'd love to try one...

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  7. that looks pretty stupid to me a cheep nocl off of unicycles for the
    untalented:p 😄

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  8. Ironic how in the pictures of them riding it the training wheel doesnt
    even touch the ground...

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  9. Ironic how in the pictures of them riding it the training wheel doesnt
    even touch the ground...

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  10. One of them is actually hopping up some stairs though. Wonder how those
    springs would improve your hop height :P

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  11. hahaha, what will the Japanese come up with next lol!!

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  12. I realise their English is far superior to my Japanese but I still can't
    help wondering why they can't afford to have English speaking
    copywriters check these things before they print the box, pamphlet or
    put it up on the web?

    The Max Challenger Site said:

    person Between to the news 12/28 water - 1/4 water of year end beginning
    of the year suspension of business, truly the selfishness does to make
    suspending business. This period it receives order and the inquiry and
    has attached, but * concerning incoming order verification mail
    transmission & the inquiry & the dispatch of the commodity you stop at
    one time. We ask how do you do.

    I love the pic showing how compact the cycle can be once you fold all
    the extraneous stuff away.
    Very funny.

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  13. interesting if done right. kinda like a pogo stick on wheels.
    all the other stuff id get rid of

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  14. spock4565 said:

    interesting if done right. kinda like a pogo stick on wheels.
    all the other stuff id get rid of

    more like a hop dampener on wheels...

    If they were decent air sockers with rebound cranked way up, you
    *might* get some gain.

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