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  1. if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

  2. Quoted message said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Being a student I might just not wear one. The consequences
    would involve a fine that I wouldn't pay, then possibly free
    accommodation and meals. I've only a couple of years left
    tho so fortunately won't get the chance.

    I would also campaign vehemently for the law to be extended
    to pedestrians, particularly in the home, and for MPs in the
    House of Commons.

  3. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Use my Giro E2 more often, cussing in the summer when it
    is really too hot to be wearing it while halfway up
    Cheddar gorge.

    Pete White

  4. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Shouldn't really answer as I always wear one (yes!!, even
    when walking, doing DIY or about the house!!! - no, not
    *REALLY*!!)...but.... I'd wear one, after all, don't want
    to be breaking the law, like those naughty cagers who
    believe it's alright to break the law ' jus'a lil' bit ',
    right kids ;-) Dave.

  5. Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    I'd go back to wearing one normally, like I did for years.
    It's not *that* much of a pain compared to not riding.

    I would be a total PITA for the DfT though, and fight to get
    the law repealed (unless flying pigs heralded it actually
    being a Good Thing, but not much danger of word eating on
    this one, methinks).

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext.
    33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177
    Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
    dundee.ac.uk~pjclinch

  6. Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Change religion?

    thamesvalley.police.ukdefault.asp
    n=Q&ID=190

  7. Sam said:


    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    I'd probably wear one for longer journeys but I'd walk more
    to the local shops and the Brommie in the hall would
    probably get less use. I'd also continually curse BHiT and
    Annetts and campaign strongly for helmets for car drivers.

    I know that one of my daughters has said she will stop
    cycling if she has to wear one.

    John B

  8. Vincent Wilcox said:
    Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally wear
    one)? Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just
    wear one in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle
    less? I'm assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling
    full stop.

    Change religion?

    thamesvalley.police.ukdefault.asp
    Q&ID=190

    Have you ever been to a Sikh wedding? You'd have to get
    used to knocking back a fair bit of whisky and getting
    into a fight.

    Colin
    --

  9. Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Ride less when it's hot, stop riding TTs because the chin
    strap stops me breathing properly (I'm asthmatic and any
    pressure on my throat is a Bad Thing). Shopping on the bike
    would be pretty much out - what do you do with the thing
    when you've parked up?

  10. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Act as if nothing has changed, they've got to catch you
    first. Can you imagine how ridiculous it would be being
    chased by a copper in any vehicle? I suppose we'll be lumped
    with number plates next! I mean the cops can't even manage
    an arrest of some pilfering toss pot, that's just swiped a
    TV under their very nose. They'd all need to be a lot fitter
    and cut out those pies. They really don't want to alienate
    cyclists, they are about the only supporters of their stupid
    victimise the motorists scam.

    --
    Mike W

  11. Doki said:
    Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    I wouldn't wear one, or if I thought i was actually in
    danger of ever seeing a bobby, I'd get one of my wooly
    hats and stick some plastic to the outside, then put it on
    whenever I saw a bobby...


    The problem is that if you ever had an accident you'd
    probably get NO compensation if you weren't wearing a
    h*****. All the CTC's good work so far would be wasted if it
    was obviously the law of the land.

  12. Zog The Undeniable said:
    Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear
    one in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle
    less? I'm assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling
    full stop.

    Ride less when it's hot, stop riding TTs because the chin
    strap stops me breathing properly (I'm asthmatic and any
    pressure on my throat is a Bad Thing). Shopping on the
    bike would be pretty much out - what do you do with the
    thing when you've parked up?

    Stick the chain / cable through the straps.

    --
    Michael MacClancy Random putdown - "A modest little person,
    with much to be modest about."- Winston Churchill
    www.macclancy.demon.co.uk www.macclancy.co.uk

  13. Colin Blackburn said:
    Quoted message said:

    Change religion?

    thamesvalley.police.ukdefault.asp
    =Q&ID=190

    Have you ever been to a Sikh wedding? You'd have to get
    used to knocking back a fair bit of whisky and getting
    into a fight.

    Colin
    --

    Ive lived in Cricklewood.

    The ceromonial sword could come in handy for slashing car
    tyres as an additional bonus to wearing no helmet though.
    Maybe not such a crazy idea after all.

  14. Zog The Undeniable said:
    Doki said:
    Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear
    one in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle
    less? I'm assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling
    full stop.

    I wouldn't wear one, or if I thought i was actually in
    danger of ever seeing a bobby, I'd get one of my wooly
    hats and stick some plastic to the outside, then put it
    on whenever I saw a bobby...


    The problem is that if you ever had an accident you'd
    probably get NO compensation if you weren't wearing a
    h*****. All the CTC's good work so far would be wasted if
    it was obviously the law of the land.

    TBH I'd be very tempted to drive to a MTB trail 10 or so
    miles away with the bike in the boot, then ride around
    there with no helmet, and drive back, rather than my
    current ride to the local woods, around the woods for a bit
    and then home.

  15. Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    Wear a helmet and keep my hair short during the summer
    months.

  16. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    I'd carry on not wearing one - the police have better things
    to do than to chase a non helmet wearing cyclist.

    --
    Akin

    aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

  17. Sam said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Fight to get the law changed? Accept defeat? Just wear one
    in areas you think you might get caught? Cycle less? I'm
    assuming nobody on this ng would stop cycling full stop.

    None of those. Not wear a helmet, and risk appearing in
    court from time to time.

    ** Phil.

  18. On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 17:33:53 +0100, "Sky Fly" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'd carry on not wearing one - the police have better
    things to do than to chase a non helmet wearing cyclist.

    hmm I wonder .... that would probably be generally the case,
    but I wonder if in some areas, the Martlew Bill (if enacted)
    would act as a 'stop and search' tool for the police to use
    on young men on bicycles in a public place.

    A
    --
    audmacd-aaatt-hhhhooottt-mmmaailll-dddoottt-cccommm

  19. "Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    if helmets became mandatory (and you don't normally
    wear one)?

    Oh and I thought from the topic title you were going to ask
    something interesting, like this moral dilema (nothing to do
    with cycling):

    What would you do in the following situation, honestly? This
    test only has one question, but it's a very important one.

    Please don't answer it without giving it some serious
    thought. By giving an honest answer you will be able to test
    where you stand morally. The test features an unlikely,
    completely fictional situation, where you will have to make
    a decision one way or the other. Remember that your answer
    needs to be honest, yet spontaneous. Please scroll down
    slowly and consider each line - this is important for the
    test to work accurately.

    You're in Florida...In Miami, to be exact. There is great
    chaos going on around you, caused by a hurricane and severe
    floods. There are huge masses of water all over you. You are
    a CNN photographer and you are in the middle of this great
    disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to
    shoot very impressive photos. There are houses and people
    floating around you, disappearing into the water. Nature is
    showing all its destructive power and is ripping everything
    away with it.

    Suddenly you see a man in the water, he is fighting for his
    life, trying not to be taken away by the masses of water and
    mud. You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar.
    Suddenly you know who it is - it's George W. Bush! At the
    same time you notice that the raging waters are about to
    take him away, forever. You have two options. You can save
    him or you can take the best photo of your life. So you can
    save the life of George W. Bush, or you can shoot a Pulitzer
    prize winning photo, a unique photo displaying the death of
    one of the world's most powerful men.

    And here's the question (please give an honest answer):

    Would you select color film, or rather go with the
    simplicity of classic black and white?

    😉

    Rich

  20. Richard Goodman wrote:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    And here's the question (please give an honest answer):

    Would you select color film, or rather go with the
    simplicity of classic black and white?

    Have to be B&W : after all, President Bush sees everything
    that way (America : good; much of rest of world : bad), so
    you could hardly do him justice by shewing the readers of
    Time-Life that there is, in fact, a continuum. Of course,
    you'd have to process the film pretty carefully, otherwise
    nasty shades of grey could creep in which might sow
    unpleasant seeds of doubt into said readers' minds ...

    ** Phil

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