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  1. Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour shifting
    system (Indexed). Can anyone help?
    Best regards,
    John.

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117

  2. Another group member said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour
    shifting system (Indexed). Can anyone help?

    If you mean the old 7 speed system from the days of screw on gear
    clusters...

    Then I find that current 7-speed screw on cassettes to match Shimano pattern
    work fine. I bought a Sachs 13-28 (probably old stock) recently for my
    bike. My bike has the X-1 shifters which sit alongside the brake hoods on a
    drop-bar (looking like giant paddles, or a bit like a bike with Kelly
    Take-Off adaptors fitted).

    I may have a worn genuine Suntour in the shed somewhere, if you really want
    such a thing, I can look to see if its not been dumped in the last trip to
    the metal recycling bin.

    - Nigel

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    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  3. "Another group member" <[email hidden].> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour shifting
    system (Indexed). Can anyone help?
    Best regards,
    John.

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117

    possibly! What were you looking for?

    Julia

  4. Hello,
    I actually know the difference between Freewheels and Cassettes. I am
    looking for a Cassette.
    John.

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117
    "Nigel Cliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Another group member said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour
    shifting system (Indexed). Can anyone help?

    If you mean the old 7 speed system from the days of screw on gear
    clusters...

    Then I find that current 7-speed screw on cassettes to match Shimano
    pattern work fine. I bought a Sachs 13-28 (probably old stock) recently
    for my bike. My bike has the X-1 shifters which sit alongside the brake
    hoods on a drop-bar (looking like giant paddles, or a bit like a bike with
    Kelly Take-Off adaptors fitted).

    I may have a worn genuine Suntour in the shed somewhere, if you really
    want such a thing, I can look to see if its not been dumped in the last
    trip to the metal recycling bin.

    - Nigel

    --
    Nigel Cliffe,
    Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

  5. Hello, Anything cassette wise and Suntour 7 speed. Prefer lower rather than
    high gears. Also could do with a suitable Suntour indexing rear gear mech.
    Regards,
    John..........

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117
    "JBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Another group member" <[email hidden].> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour shifting
    system (Indexed). Can anyone help?
    Best regards,
    John.

    --

    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117

    possibly! What were you looking for?

    Julia

  6. Another group member said:

    Hello, Anything cassette wise and Suntour 7 speed. Prefer lower rather than
    high gears. Also could do with a suitable Suntour indexing rear gear mech.
    Regards,

    I have a 7-speed Suntour derailler in the bits box, but it's not
    exactly mint condition. (I also have a 7-speed Suntour cassette,
    maybe a freewheel, but it's still attached to an old wheel, and
    I don't really want to buy a Suntour-specific tool to remove it).

    It's yours for the cost of postage if you want it. I've uploaded
    a photo here:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jd.collins/images/suntour_mech.jpg

    It's from an old MTB, and is marked "Suntour Accushift XCT". I
    won't be offended if you say "no thanks"...!

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    jc

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  7. Rear mech welcome as it could be repainted to look OK. But only if rear cogs
    are cassette and not Freewheel.
    John.

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117
    "Jeremy Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Another group member said:

    Hello, Anything cassette wise and Suntour 7 speed. Prefer lower rather
    than high gears. Also could do with a suitable Suntour indexing rear gear
    mech.
    Regards,

    I have a 7-speed Suntour derailler in the bits box, but it's not
    exactly mint condition. (I also have a 7-speed Suntour cassette,
    maybe a freewheel, but it's still attached to an old wheel, and
    I don't really want to buy a Suntour-specific tool to remove it).

    It's yours for the cost of postage if you want it. I've uploaded
    a photo here:

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jd.collins/images/suntour_mech.jpg

    It's from an old MTB, and is marked "Suntour Accushift XCT". I
    won't be offended if you say "no thanks"...!

    --
    jc

    Remove the -not from email

  8. Another group member said:

    Rear mech welcome as it could be repainted to look OK. But only if rear cogs
    are cassette and not Freewheel.

    Are you saying you only want the mech if my old wheel has a cassette on
    it?

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    jc

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  9. Hello, Yes if the cassette matches the gear. If it is a screw on freewheel
    it is a different job and will not fit to the cassette rear wheel I have.
    Sorry.
    John.

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117
    "Jeremy Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Another group member said:

    Rear mech welcome as it could be repainted to look OK. But only if rear
    cogs are cassette and not Freewheel.

    Are you saying you only want the mech if my old wheel has a cassette on
    it?

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    jc

    Remove the -not from email

  10. "Another group member" <[email hidden].> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour shifting
    system (Indexed). Can anyone help?

    Sounds like a shimano 7sp cassette would do you. Or is it that you've got a
    suntour hub?

    cheers,
    clive

  11. Its a Shimano hub with a Shimano mech but it wont index correctly unless I
    have a Suntour mech and I am asuming a Suntour Casstte?
    John

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117
    "Clive George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Another group member" <[email hidden].> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour shifting
    system (Indexed). Can anyone help?

    Sounds like a shimano 7sp cassette would do you. Or is it that you've got
    a
    suntour hub?

    cheers,
    clive

  12. Another group member' . said:

    Its a Shimano hub with a Shimano mech but it wont index
    correctly unless I have a Suntour mech and I am asuming
    a Suntour Casstte?

    A Suntour cassette (from the Accushift era) won't fit on your Shimano hub -
    the spline pattern is different, and the thread of the locking sprocket
    doesn't match Shimano's Uniglide thread.

    There are some details on Suntour cassette spacing here:

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/stcass.html

    It looks as though the indexing should be reasonable if you use a Shimano
    cassette with Suntour mech and shifters - or find some Shimano shifters to
    go with the Shimano mech.

    James Thomson

  13. "Another group member" <[email hidden].> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hello, I am trying to locate a 7 speed Cassette to suit Suntour


    shifting

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    system (Indexed). Can anyone help?

    Sounds like a shimano 7sp cassette would do you. Or is it that you've


    got

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    a
    suntour hub?

    Its a Shimano hub with a Shimano mech but it wont index correctly unless I
    have a Suntour mech and I am asuming a Suntour Casstte?

    Suntour spacing is the same as or close enough to shimano spacing, so a
    shimano cassette will do. Which is fortunate as that's a wearing part, and
    you can still get them.
    (if you want to be closer, you could probably use 3 spacers from an 8 speed
    cassette in the relevant position, but I don't know what position that is
    :-) )

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html#spacing

    (did suntour cassettes have the same spline pattern as shimano?)

    cheers,
    clive

  14. James, Good to hear from you. I hope that you are well, and Paris is still
    exciting!
    The bike in question is not mine-I am the repairer. It has Suntour bar end
    shifters which want to be kept. The rear Shimano wheel without a Cassette is
    where the problem lies. The rear gear mech is Shimano too. If I were to fit
    a Shimano cassette are you thinking that the indexing would be satisfactory?
    All the best,
    John.

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    http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/1170117
    "James Thomson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Another group member' . said:

    Its a Shimano hub with a Shimano mech but it wont index
    correctly unless I have a Suntour mech and I am asuming
    a Suntour Casstte?

    A Suntour cassette (from the Accushift era) won't fit on your Shimano
    hub -
    the spline pattern is different, and the thread of the locking sprocket
    doesn't match Shimano's Uniglide thread.

    There are some details on Suntour cassette spacing here:

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/stcass.html

    It looks as though the indexing should be reasonable if you use a Shimano
    cassette with Suntour mech and shifters - or find some Shimano shifters to
    go with the Shimano mech.

    James Thomson

  15. Another group member' . said:

    James, Good to hear from you. I hope that you are well, and
    Paris is still exciting!

    En crêpe de Chine, comme un chagrin d'asphalte!

    Quoted message said:

    The bike in question is not mine-I am the repairer. It has Suntour
    bar end shifters which want to be kept. The rear Shimano wheel
    without a Cassette is where the problem lies. The rear gear
    mech is Shimano too. If I were to fit a Shimano cassette are you
    thinking that the indexing would be satisfactory?

    The simple answer is that I don't know - sorry. I do know that 8-speed
    Suntour levers work well with Shimano derailleurs, but I don't know what
    might have changed between 7 and 8.

    I assume the levers have a friction option.

    James Thomson

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    Quoted message said:

    The bike in question is not mine-I am the repairer. It has Suntour bar end
    shifters which want to be kept. The rear Shimano wheel without a Cassette


    is

    Quoted message said:

    where the problem lies. The rear gear mech is Shimano too. If I were to


    fit

    Quoted message said:

    a Shimano cassette are you thinking that the indexing would be


    satisfactory?

    Suck it and see. If it's not, then you need to match the shifter to the
    mech, ie either a shimano shifter or a suntour mech. Either way, the shimano
    cassette will be fine, so there's nothing to be lost by just trying that
    first.

    (or you _could_ work out what distances the suntour shifter moves the
    shimano mech between gears, and fettle a set of custom spacers to suit - but
    I wouldn't bother!)

    cheers,
    clive

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