Sunny Day Out

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The route took in [...] the Cat and Fiddle Pub,

Bloody liar! Chris wouldn't let us go in, not even for a single pint.
"Dragged past, kicking and screaming" is a more accurate description.
This continued at _every_ _single_ pub we passed. The man is evil :-)

Despite being the youngest, Chris and Adrian were pretty perky at the
end, whereas my legs were dropping off around the 14 mile mark. Too
their credit, they managed not to take the mick. Energy levels were
still up, and I enjoyed the walk despite the lack of leg muscles. I
sense a need to do a bit more walking before I venture out with these two
again :-)

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As ever, on such occasions, the topics of conversation were varied and
wide-ranging, including;

Has there ever been a good time to be a Russian (answer: probably not)

What does "modern" warfare mean anyway?

Has anyone ever written a book on the sociological phenomenon of
Usenet? (and if not, why not?)

How many more hills are there before the finish? (this one cropped up
several times).

etc., etc., please add your own.

oooh, let's see.

Peter Clinch's tights.

How lovely Fran is.

Who killed Peewiglet?

How many more big hills?
..little hills
..steep hills
..long hills

How many hours til we finish?
..miles til we finish?

Will you stop hitting me if I stop asking when we'll finish?

What about this pub?
..that pub?
..the next pub?

Did you get her number Chris? <-- like candles round a moth.

How slow is Mark?
..[too many variations to list].

pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said...

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As ever, on such occasions, the topics of conversation were varied and
wide-ranging, including;

Has there ever been a good time to be a Russian (answer: probably not)

etc., etc., please add your own.

oooh, let's see.

How lovely Fran is.

Good grief! Have we met?

--
To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
where common sense dictates.

Mark Thompson pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said:

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As ever, on such occasions, the topics of conversation were varied and
wide-ranging, including;

The accuracy of the BBC's weather forecast.

The disadvantages of following a bloke in boots through a bog
when you're wearing trainers.

The qualities of Bovril as a walker's tipple.

The sleazy tricks of Buxton's finest : a machine that refused to take
Chris's money for a full day's parking, followed by the inevitable
ticket when it expired too early. (Let me know if you want backup
for the complaint..)

The quality of northern chippies (and especially mugs of tea)

The need to box up your ego when passed by a ponytailed jogger in
the 20th mile of a walk.

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Did you get her number Chris? <-- like candles round a moth.

But strangely forgotten when it coincidentally happened 20 minutes
later ..

-adrian

Chris Hill wrote

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The route took in Axe Edge Moor, the Cat and Fiddle Pub, Errwood
Reservoir, Pym Chair, Windgather Rocks, and Combs village.

We were just down the road in the Dane valley. Fab day. Lovely
warm yellow sun with a bit of dramatic soft focus about it. 10 miles.

Chris

Chris Hill said:

Today was "Long Walk" day. Myself, Adrian Godwin and Mark Thompson
walked a 20+ mile circular route starting and ending in Buxton,
Derbyshire. The route took in Axe Edge Moor, the Cat and Fiddle Pub,
Errwood Reservoir, Pym Chair, Windgather Rocks, and Combs village. I say
"20+" miles as there may be some disagreement between mine and Adrian's
GPSs. My Garmin Forerunner 301 gives a total distance of 24.91 miles.
I'm interested to know the figure Adrian's comes up with. Peak elevation
was 1748ft, and total walk time 8h 13m.

24.48 miles. Pretty close ! I'll send you the GPX file ..

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All in all, a great day out, and nice to meet some urwers at last.

Seconded. Thanks, Chris.

-adrian

Fran said:

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oooh, let's see.

How lovely Fran is.

Good grief! Have we met?

You reputation goes before you, Fran ..

-adrian

Mark Thompson pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said:

Despite being the youngest, Chris and Adrian were pretty perky at the
end, whereas my legs were dropping off around the 14 mile mark. Too
their credit, they managed not to take the mick. Energy levels were
still up, and I enjoyed the walk despite the lack of leg muscles. I
sense a need to do a bit more walking before I venture out with these two
again :-)

Mark fails to point out that, not seeing the walk as sufficiently
challenging, he cycled 20 miles to the starting point.

Chris was so impressed at this multi-sport ability that he missed out
on the excellent chips to get in a few lengths of the bath(s)
before tea.

-adrian

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My Garmin Forerunner 301 gives a total distance of 24.91 miles.
I'm interested to know the figure Adrian's comes up with. Peak elevation
was 1748ft, and total walk time 8h 13m.

But how many feet of ascent?

--
Roger Chapman

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writes

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The route took in [...] the Cat and Fiddle Pub,

Bloody liar! Chris wouldn't let us go in, not even for a single pint.

Err... it was closed, though.

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"Dragged past, kicking and screaming" is a more accurate description.
This continued at _every_ _single_ pub we passed. The man is evil :-)

"Every single"? Pah! The only other pub we passed was The Beehive in
Combs. In that particular case I was saving you from yourself. Would you
*really* want to slog up the hill to The Whitehall Centre with even a
pint inside you?

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Despite being the youngest, Chris and Adrian were pretty perky at the
end,

What you saw there may have been a demonstration of method acting...

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whereas my legs were dropping off around the 14 mile mark. Too
their credit, they managed not to take the mick. Energy levels were
still up, and I enjoyed the walk despite the lack of leg muscles. I
sense a need to do a bit more walking before I venture out with these two
again :-)

So you don't fancy the same route again next weekend but in reverse?

--
Chris Hill

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Mark Thompson

pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com said:

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As ever, on such occasions, the topics of conversation were varied and
wide-ranging, including;

The accuracy of the BBC's weather forecast.

The disadvantages of following a bloke in boots through a bog
when you're wearing trainers.

I really hate that bit of the route, but there's no sensible alternative
that I can see.

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The qualities of Bovril as a walker's tipple.

And what was that about people putting vinegar in Bovril? Sounds a bit
perverse to me.

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The sleazy tricks of Buxton's finest : a machine that refused to take
Chris's money for a full day's parking, followed by the inevitable
ticket when it expired too early. (Let me know if you want backup
for the complaint..)

I'm thinking it might just be easiest to pay up and let it go. In
retrospect I suppose I should have parked where you were when it became
obvious that the stupid machine wasn't co-operating.

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The quality of northern chippies (and especially mugs of tea)

The need to box up your ego when passed by a ponytailed jogger in
the 20th mile of a walk.

Ah, but she did park at the top of the hill before running, rather than
running up from the bottom. Therefore: ego salved.

--
Chris Hill

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Chris Hill wrote

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The route took in Axe Edge Moor, the Cat and Fiddle Pub, Errwood
Reservoir, Pym Chair, Windgather Rocks, and Combs village.

We were just down the road in the Dane valley. Fab day. Lovely
warm yellow sun with a bit of dramatic soft focus about it. 10 miles.

Brilliant, wasn't it? Unlike today <peers out of window> which is back
to gun-metal grey and slightly damp.
--
Chris Hill

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My Garmin Forerunner 301 gives a total distance of 24.91 miles.
I'm interested to know the figure Adrian's comes up with. Peak elevation
was 1748ft, and total walk time 8h 13m.

But how many feet of ascent?

If I'm reading the software right, 3379ft.
--
Chris Hill

In message <[email hidden]>, Adrian Godwin
<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill said:

Today was "Long Walk" day. Myself, Adrian Godwin and Mark Thompson
walked a 20+ mile circular route starting and ending in Buxton,
Derbyshire. The route took in Axe Edge Moor, the Cat and Fiddle Pub,
Errwood Reservoir, Pym Chair, Windgather Rocks, and Combs village. I say
"20+" miles as there may be some disagreement between mine and Adrian's
GPSs. My Garmin Forerunner 301 gives a total distance of 24.91 miles.
I'm interested to know the figure Adrian's comes up with. Peak elevation
was 1748ft, and total walk time 8h 13m.

24.48 miles. Pretty close ! I'll send you the GPX file ..

Excellent - I'll send you mine. Incidentally, do you know if yours
accounts for gradients? Mine doesn't AFAIK.

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All in all, a great day out, and nice to meet some urwers at last.

Seconded. Thanks, Chris.

No problem, though I can't take credit for the route. Glad you enjoyed
it and all got back OK.
--
Chris Hill

Chris Hill wrote

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Unlike today <peers out of window> which is back to gun-metal grey and
slightly damp.

Not to mention bleedin cold n'all

Chris

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In that particular case I was saving you from yourself. Would you
*really* want to slog up the hill to The Whitehall Centre with even a
pint inside you?

Dutch courage works with girls, it'll work with hills too.

The question you should be asking is "Would you *really* want to slog up
the hill **without** a pint inside you?"

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So you don't fancy the same route again next weekend but in reverse?

Sure. Legs are still aching -lots- so will be interesting to see how much
stronger they get. Should we time it so you meet that young lass out
walking her dog again?

Chris Hill said:

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24.48 miles. Pretty close ! I'll send you the GPX file ..

Excellent - I'll send you mine. Incidentally, do you know if yours
accounts for gradients? Mine doesn't AFAIK.

No, almost certainly not. But we had a discussion here a while back
that concluded normal gradients have very little effect on distance
other than slowing your progress, per Naismith's rule.

Even if it were 3000' straight up and down (with no horizontal
component) it would still add less than 5% to the 130,000' of
horizontal travel.

-adrian

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Thompson <pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com>
writes

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So you don't fancy the same route again next weekend but in reverse?

Sure. Legs are still aching -lots- so will be interesting to see how much
stronger they get.

Ah... I was joking. Next weekend I will be mostly building a dry-stone
wall. Or, if it rains, playing Worms2.

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Should we time it so you meet that young lass out
walking her dog again?

No need - I'll ask her when I see her tonight 😉
--
Chris Hill

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<[email hidden]> writes

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Chris Hill said:

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24.48 miles. Pretty close ! I'll send you the GPX file ..

Excellent - I'll send you mine. Incidentally, do you know if yours
accounts for gradients? Mine doesn't AFAIK.

No, almost certainly not. But we had a discussion here a while back
that concluded normal gradients have very little effect on distance
other than slowing your progress, per Naismith's rule.

Even if it were 3000' straight up and down (with no horizontal
component) it would still add less than 5% to the 130,000' of
horizontal travel.

I can see the logic in that. I suppose it's the altitude v distance
graphs with highly unequal scaling of axes which gives the impression
that the gradients make a big difference.
--
Chris Hill

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My Garmin Forerunner 301 gives a total distance of 24.91 miles.
I'm interested to know the figure Adrian's comes up with. Peak elevation
was 1748ft, and total walk time 8h 13m.

But how many feet of ascent?

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If I'm reading the software right, 3379ft.

In which case it would have taken Naismith 10 hours to get round.

--
Roger Chapman