Sunglasses w/Rx insert

"Fred Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
sunglasses to be used for road riding...along the style of
something like Bolle Vigilante or Parole. However, my eyes
are bad enough where I'll need a prescription insert to go
with them.

Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic
clip-on sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have
light plastic lenses they are just heavy enough to
constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm always
either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the
top of them.

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound
sunglasses, will it make them that much heavier and I'll
experience the same "slippage" problem? Or are they light
enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I be looking
over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience using
these inserts have any insights or alternative
recommendations?

My correction isn't that bad, so I don't have the thick
lens weight problem. I bought a pair of cycling glasses
with inserts a few years ago. While I still wear them, I
wouldn't buy another pair. The whole insert thing is a
nuisance. You have 4 surfaces to get dirty/foggy/reflect,
they're heavier than regular glasses, the inserts make them
stand off your face further, etc. I don't find they offer
any advantage at all, and they reduce the stylishness of
cycling glasses (if that's what you're after) considerably.
Other than style, I don't think wraparound glasses have
anything to offer anyway.

Peter Cole said:

I bought a pair of cycling glasses with inserts a few
years ago. While I still wear them, I wouldn't buy another
pair. The whole insert thing is a nuisance. You have 4
surfaces to get dirty/foggy/reflect, they're heavier than
regular glasses, the inserts make them stand off your face
further, etc. I don't find they offer any advantage at
all, and they reduce the stylishness of cycling glasses
(if that's what you're after) considerably. Other than
style, I don't think wraparound glasses have anything to
offer anyway.

I have glasses with inserts, too, and they definitely are a
problem when it's foggy. Getting four surfaces wet makes it
nearly impossible to see. I've been thinking of getting the
Oakley M Frame with integrated prescription lenses. They
are pricey, but they should solve (well, reduce) the
visibility problem in the fog. Tyler Hamilton wears a
prescription pair:

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I do like wrap-around glasses on fast and cool descents,
as they keep more of the wind out of my eyes. With
regular glasses, I tear up so much I lose vision and have
to slow down.
--
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Quoted message said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
sunglasses to be used for road riding...along the style of
something like Bolle Vigilante or Parole. However, my eyes
are bad enough where I'll need a prescription insert to go
with them. Right now I use my regular glasses that have the
magnetic clip-on sunglasses, but when I ride, even though
they have light plastic lenses they are just heavy enough
to constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm always
either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the
top of them.

An eyeglass leash would fix this.

Quoted message said:

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound
sunglasses, will it make them that much heavier and I'll
experience the same "slippage" problem?

Yes, they will be heavier. Most sports glasses have rubber
nose pieces that keep them from slipping. My Bolle's, older
model I forget the name, came with arms that wrap around
your ear so that they won't slip.

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Or are they light enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will
I be looking over the top of the insert? Anyone with
experience using these inserts have any insights or
alternative recommendations?

The bolle's I have fit close enough to my face that I have
to try to look above or below the glasses.
---------------
Alex

Yikes!!! So many choices and contradictory opinions...I want
to thank everyone who replied. I'm learning a lot about
prescription wraparounds with and without inserts - that's
for sure! I went to my optometrist today to feel him out
after reading up on mfgr web sites and MTB reviews web site.
He said he doesn't carry any athletic style glasses with
inserts because he tried to a few years back and said he
only got about a dozen requests a year for them (the joys of
living in a small city - no volume) and very few were ever
happy with what they got, so that the back and forth
shipping was killing him...but he can put the lenses in the
inserts I get if I want, and he gave me a copy of my
prescription if I want to get them made over the web.

So now I'm thinking, maybe go for the cheapie Performance
pair with inserts, just to see if I like the concept with
the thought of getting something more expensive later, or go
whole hog and get a pair of Rudy Project with inserts now
(that get really rave user reviews at the MTB site)...and
the Oakley M's with integrated prescription lens (no
inserts) looks pretty compelling too. Wish I was rich and
could just try 'em all now!

"Fred Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
sunglasses to be used for road riding...along the style of
something like Bolle Vigilante or Parole. However, my eyes
are bad enough where I'll need a prescription insert to go
with them.

Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic
clip-on sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have
light plastic lenses

they

Quoted message said:

are just heavy enough to constantly slip down my nose just
enough that I'm always either pushing them up with one
hand or looking over the top of

them.

Quoted message said:

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound
sunglasses, will it make them that much heavier and I'll
experience the same "slippage" problem? Or are they light
enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I

be

Quoted message said:

looking over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience
using these inserts have any insights or alternative
recommendations?

Fred Hall said:

Yikes!!! So many choices and contradictory opinions...I
want to thank everyone who replied. I'm learning a lot
about prescription wraparounds with and without inserts -
that's for sure! I went to my optometrist today to feel him
out after reading up on mfgr web sites and MTB reviews web
site. He said he doesn't carry any athletic style glasses
with inserts because he tried to a few years back and said
he only got about a dozen requests a year for them (the
joys of living in a small city - no volume) and very few
were ever happy with what they got, so that the back and
forth shipping was killing him...but he can put the lenses
in the inserts I get if I want, and he gave me a copy of my
prescription if I want to get them made over the web.

So now I'm thinking, maybe go for the cheapie Performance
pair with inserts, just to see if I like the concept with
the thought of getting something more expensive later, or
go whole hog and get a pair of Rudy Project with inserts
now (that get really rave user reviews at the MTB
site)...and the Oakley M's with integrated prescription
lens (no inserts) looks pretty compelling too. Wish I was
rich and could just try 'em all now!

Just a quick overview on this. You should get what you -know-
will work/satisfy you, b/c there's nothing worse than going
for a solution that -might- work and being unhappy about it.

So if I may suggest, save up your money and go for the
prescription wraps and get the best possible fit, and snug
wrap and you know you'll be happy. This would be the high
end option. (I'd try and check on some kind of insurance for
them in this case - so you're not worrying about loss or
breakage.)

The lower end option would be to try the Performance pair
with inserts for 50 bucks plus the insert lense to see if it
will work. You will get dirt and fogging, but it might not
be so bad that it's unworkable. At least then you won't be
out so much cash. If it does work, try the Rudys or other
high ends - be sure and actually check the fit on your face.

Some ppl suggest getting the cheapest workable pairs of
sunglasses b/c sooner or later you'll lose them or break
them. I got a great deal for $7 bucks that just happen to
fit me like a glove - but I'm able to do this b/c I went
the route of contacts. This to me is the best option if you
have 3-4 diopter correction. You can have lots of pairs of
cheap glasses and don't have to worry. For me it's more
about how well the wraps fit and seal to my face, and less
about the rest.

You're probably going to want blue blocker type lenses for
cloudy days, regular for sunny days, and clear. The
Performance Bike shop type (Radial II $60 bucks on sale)
will have these - I opted not to get these b/c they don't go
all the way down to the cheek and I could see space below
the lense of about 3/8 inch - I like to have my view be
uncluttered and not see space or frame. Again, check the fit
on your face - don't buy and fly. (Performance is good b/c
they'll take back stuff no questions.)

Apologies for the additional verbiage... ;-) Good luck!

-Badger

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Fred Hall said:

Yikes!!! So many choices and contradictory opinions...I
want to thank everyone who replied. I'm learning a lot
about prescription wraparounds with and without inserts -
that's for sure! I went to my optometrist

today

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to feel him out after reading up on mfgr web sites and
MTB reviews web

site.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He said he doesn't carry any athletic style glasses with
inserts because

he

Quoted message said:

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tried to a few years back and said he only got about a
dozen requests a

year

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for them (the joys of living in a small city - no volume)
and very few

were

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ever happy with what they got, so that the back and forth
shipping was killing him...but he can put the lenses in
the inserts I get if I want,

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

he gave me a copy of my prescription if I want to get
them made over the web.

So now I'm thinking, maybe go for the cheapie Performance
pair with

inserts,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just to see if I like the concept with the thought of
getting something

more

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

expensive later, or go whole hog and get a pair of Rudy
Project with

inserts

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

now (that get really rave user reviews at the MTB
site)...and the Oakley

M's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with integrated prescription lens (no inserts) looks
pretty compelling

too.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Wish I was rich and could just try 'em all now!

Just a quick overview on this. You should get what you -know-
will work/satisfy you, b/c there's nothing worse than
going for a solution that -might- work and being unhappy
about it.

So if I may suggest, save up your money and go for the
prescription wraps and get the best possible fit, and snug
wrap and you know you'll be happy. This would be the high
end option. (I'd try and check on some kind of insurance
for them in this case - so you're not worrying about loss
or breakage.)

The lower end option would be to try the Performance pair
with inserts for 50 bucks plus the insert lense to see if
it will work. You will get dirt and fogging, but it might
not be so bad that it's unworkable. At least

then

Quoted message said:

you won't be out so much cash. If it does work, try the
Rudys or other

high

Quoted message said:

ends - be sure and actually check the fit on your face.

Some ppl suggest getting the cheapest workable pairs of
sunglasses b/c sooner or later you'll lose them or break
them. I got a great deal for $7 bucks that just happen to
fit me like a glove - but I'm able to do this

b/c

Quoted message said:

I went the route of contacts. This to me is the best
option if you have

3-4

Quoted message said:

diopter correction. You can have lots of pairs of cheap
glasses and don't have to worry. For me it's more about
how well the wraps fit and seal to

my

Quoted message said:

face, and less about the rest.

You're probably going to want blue blocker type lenses for
cloudy days, regular for sunny days, and clear. The
Performance Bike shop type (Radial II $60 bucks on sale)
will have these - I opted not to get these b/c they don't
go all the way down to the cheek and I could see space
below the lense of about 3/8 inch - I like to have my view
be uncluttered and not

see

Quoted message said:

space or frame. Again, check the fit on your face - don't
buy and fly. (Performance is good b/c they'll take back
stuff no questions.)

Apologies for the additional verbiage... ;-) Good luck!

-Badger

No apology necessary...I'm new to this so inputs from those
more experienced is always welcome.

This bike bug can bite you...the beginning of last season
(I'm in upstate NY, so the "season" is about late April to
mid-October unless you're into cold and rain) I was riding a
cheapo Walmart hybrid and got hooked on riding and knew that
heavy thing was no good...last August the LBS was having a
sale and I picked up a Gary Fisher hybrid at a good price
(end of season sale) and thought I was in heaven. At the
time I was mainly riding bike trails that were packed
stonedust and fairly flat (along the old Erie Canal), but
when I took the Fisher on the road I had to pedal like hell
to get up to 25 mph on a downgrade, so long distance rides
took a long time...well a month ago I went to the LBS and
got a decent deal on a Trek 1500...now I'm off the tree-
lined trails and actually have to worry about the sun and
wind in my eyes...the Trek really flies (at least to me it
seems like it)! Thus the search for decent wraparounds.

Fred Hall said:

No apology necessary...I'm new to this so inputs from those
more experienced is always welcome.

This bike bug can bite you...the beginning of last season
(I'm in upstate NY, so the "season" is about late April to
mid-October unless you're into cold and rain) I was riding
a cheapo Walmart hybrid and got hooked on riding and knew
that heavy thing was no good...last August the LBS was
having a sale and I picked up a Gary Fisher hybrid at a
good price (end of season sale) and thought I was in
heaven. At the time I was mainly riding bike trails that
were packed stonedust and fairly flat (along the old Erie
Canal), but when I took the Fisher on the road I had to
pedal like hell to get up to 25 mph on a downgrade, so long
distance rides took a long time...well a month ago I went
to the LBS and got a decent deal on a Trek 1500...now I'm
off the tree-lined trails and actually have to worry about
the sun and wind in my eyes...the Trek really flies (at
least to me it seems like it)! Thus the search for decent
wraparounds.

That's almost exactly my story, except I went right from the
Wal-goose to the Trek. Glad to hear you've graduated to a
new set of "problems" <g>.

Hope that the sun and wind in your eyes are the most
problems you have to face! Good riding.

-B

Be careful with prescription inserts. I recently began to
ride a motorcycle and purchased sunglasses with an insert. I
have a thick prescription and when Lenscrafters finished
them and I placed the insert into the goggle, it blurred.
When I took the insert out it was fine. I ended up returning
them and ordering a goggle without an insert from
sportrx.com I could see out of this one.

Apparently, there is some distortion when a thick
prescription has to be bent to fit into a pair of non-
prescription sunglasses.

I ended up just using regular sunglasses with a full face
shield helment.

"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Fred Hall said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
sunglasses to be used for road riding...along the style
of something like Bolle Vigilante or Parole. However, my
eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

I just went to my eyeglass-guy, and he showed me a pair of
wraparound Bolle glasses that can be made to my
prescription (and I have progressive lenses -- de rigeur
for old farts). This seems much better than inserts.

Hi, what model and how much?

Thank you, Jeff

Fred Hall said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
sunglasses to be used for road riding...along the style of
something like Bolle Vigilante or Parole. However, my eyes
are bad enough where I'll need a prescription insert to go
with them.

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Anyone with experience using these inserts have any
insights or alternative recommendations?

Take a look at Sved Optics (www.svedoptics.com). They make
custom prescription inserts for most major brands. I had
them make an insert for the Oakley M frame. The total cost
was less than Oakley's prescription product, plus I can
switch outer lenses and use the same insert.

The best prescription lenses are contacts. They won't
contribute to blurry vision from vibration when riding fast
on bumpy roads.

--
Bill Bushnell

"Fred Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
sunglasses to be used for road riding...along the style of
something like Bolle Vigilante or Parole. However, my eyes
are bad enough where I'll need a prescription insert to go
with them.

Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic
clip-on sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have
light plastic lenses they are just heavy enough to
constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm always
either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the
top of them.

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound
sunglasses, will it make them that much heavier and I'll
experience the same "slippage" problem? Or are they light
enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I be looking
over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience using
these inserts have any insights or alternative
recommendations?

I tried the insert for the Smith Moab glasses, but due to my
lousy eyes, they were far too thick to fit properly. I ended
up with contacts, and haven't looked back (har). I too had a
bad experience with contacts, when I was in high school.
But, with the modern disposable lenses and a proper fit, I
can't complain. In fact, with the toric lens my vision has
never been better.

You should try contacts again, and complain if they aren't
confortable. Most optomologists will let you use sample
pairs until you get the right fit. If yours won't, find one
who does -they get 'em for free.

Eric

Hi. Don't know if this was covered here or not but Rudy
Project makes a number of sunglasses w/inserts. They also
have interchangeable lenses as well.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:01:00 +0000, Fred Hall wrote:

> I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound
> sunglasses to be

used

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> for road riding...along the style of something like
> Bolle Vigilante

or

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> Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll
> need a

prescription

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> insert to go with them.

I just went to my eyeglass-guy, and he showed me a pair
of wraparound Bolle glasses that can be made to my
prescription (and I have

progressive

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lenses -- de rigeur for old farts). This seems much
better than

inserts.

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Hi, what model and how much?

Not sure. I go for my exam on 7/9, and get glasses maybe a
week or so thereafter. I will let you know.

--

David L. Johnson

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