Sunglasses w/Rx insert

"Fred Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic clip-on
sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have light plastic lenses they
are just heavy enough to constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm
always either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the top of them.

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound sunglasses, will
it make them that much heavier and I'll experience the same "slippage"
problem? Or are they light enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I be
looking over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience using these
inserts have any insights or alternative recommendations?

My correction isn't that bad, so I don't have the thick lens weight problem. I
bought a pair of cycling glasses with inserts a few years ago. While I still
wear them, I wouldn't buy another pair. The whole insert thing is a nuisance.
You have 4 surfaces to get dirty/foggy/reflect, they're heavier than regular
glasses, the inserts make them stand off your face further, etc. I don't find
they offer any advantage at all, and they reduce the stylishness of cycling
glasses (if that's what you're after) considerably. Other than style, I don't
think wraparound glasses have anything to offer anyway.

Peter Cole said:

I bought a pair of cycling glasses with inserts a few years ago.
While I still wear them, I wouldn't buy another pair. The whole
insert thing is a nuisance. You have 4 surfaces to get
dirty/foggy/reflect, they're heavier than regular glasses, the
inserts make them stand off your face further, etc. I don't find
they offer any advantage at all, and they reduce the stylishness
of cycling glasses (if that's what you're after) considerably.
Other than style, I don't think wraparound glasses have anything
to offer anyway.

I have glasses with inserts, too, and they definitely are a problem
when it's foggy. Getting four surfaces wet makes it nearly
impossible to see. I've been thinking of getting the Oakley M Frame
with integrated prescription lenses. They are pricey, but they
should solve (well, reduce) the visibility problem in the fog. Tyler
Hamilton wears a prescription pair:

http://tinyurl.com/2t9vg

I do like wrap-around glasses on fast and cool descents, as they
keep more of the wind out of my eyes. With regular glasses, I tear
up so much I lose vision and have to slow down.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/

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Quoted message said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.
Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic clip-on
sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have light plastic lenses they
are just heavy enough to constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm
always either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the top of them.

An eyeglass leash would fix this.

Quoted message said:

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound sunglasses, will
it make them that much heavier and I'll experience the same "slippage"
problem?

Yes, they will be heavier. Most sports glasses have rubber nose pieces
that keep them from slipping. My Bolle's, older model I forget the name,
came with arms that wrap around your ear so that they won't slip.

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Or are they light enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I be
looking over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience using these
inserts have any insights or alternative recommendations?

The bolle's I have fit close enough to my face that I have to try to look
above or below the glasses.
---------------
Alex

Fred Hall said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

I just went to my eyeglass-guy, and he showed me a pair of wraparound
Bolle glasses that can be made to my prescription (and I have progressive
lenses -- de rigeur for old farts). This seems much better than inserts.

--

David L. Johnson

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_`\(,_ | death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them?
(_)/ (_) | Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. -- J.
R. R. Tolkien

Yikes!!! So many choices and contradictory opinions...I want to thank
everyone who replied. I'm learning a lot about prescription wraparounds
with and without inserts - that's for sure! I went to my optometrist today
to feel him out after reading up on mfgr web sites and MTB reviews web site.
He said he doesn't carry any athletic style glasses with inserts because he
tried to a few years back and said he only got about a dozen requests a year
for them (the joys of living in a small city - no volume) and very few were
ever happy with what they got, so that the back and forth shipping was
killing him...but he can put the lenses in the inserts I get if I want, and
he gave me a copy of my prescription if I want to get them made over the
web.

So now I'm thinking, maybe go for the cheapie Performance pair with inserts,
just to see if I like the concept with the thought of getting something more
expensive later, or go whole hog and get a pair of Rudy Project with inserts
now (that get really rave user reviews at the MTB site)...and the Oakley M's
with integrated prescription lens (no inserts) looks pretty compelling too.
Wish I was rich and could just try 'em all now!

"Fred Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic clip-on
sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have light plastic lenses

they

Quoted message said:

are just heavy enough to constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm
always either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the top of

them.

Quoted message said:

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound sunglasses, will
it make them that much heavier and I'll experience the same "slippage"
problem? Or are they light enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I

be

Quoted message said:

looking over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience using these
inserts have any insights or alternative recommendations?

Fred Hall said:

Yikes!!! So many choices and contradictory opinions...I want to thank
everyone who replied. I'm learning a lot about prescription wraparounds
with and without inserts - that's for sure! I went to my optometrist today
to feel him out after reading up on mfgr web sites and MTB reviews web site.
He said he doesn't carry any athletic style glasses with inserts because he
tried to a few years back and said he only got about a dozen requests a year
for them (the joys of living in a small city - no volume) and very few were
ever happy with what they got, so that the back and forth shipping was
killing him...but he can put the lenses in the inserts I get if I want, and
he gave me a copy of my prescription if I want to get them made over the
web.

So now I'm thinking, maybe go for the cheapie Performance pair with inserts,
just to see if I like the concept with the thought of getting something more
expensive later, or go whole hog and get a pair of Rudy Project with inserts
now (that get really rave user reviews at the MTB site)...and the Oakley M's
with integrated prescription lens (no inserts) looks pretty compelling too.
Wish I was rich and could just try 'em all now!

Just a quick overview on this. You should get what you -know- will
work/satisfy you, b/c there's nothing worse than going for a solution that
-might- work and being unhappy about it.

So if I may suggest, save up your money and go for the prescription wraps
and get the best possible fit, and snug wrap and you know you'll be happy.
This would be the high end option. (I'd try and check on some kind of
insurance for them in this case - so you're not worrying about loss or
breakage.)

The lower end option would be to try the Performance pair with inserts for
50 bucks plus the insert lense to see if it will work. You will get dirt
and fogging, but it might not be so bad that it's unworkable. At least then
you won't be out so much cash. If it does work, try the Rudys or other high
ends - be sure and actually check the fit on your face.

Some ppl suggest getting the cheapest workable pairs of sunglasses b/c
sooner or later you'll lose them or break them. I got a great deal for $7
bucks that just happen to fit me like a glove - but I'm able to do this b/c
I went the route of contacts. This to me is the best option if you have 3-4
diopter correction. You can have lots of pairs of cheap glasses and don't
have to worry. For me it's more about how well the wraps fit and seal to my
face, and less about the rest.

You're probably going to want blue blocker type lenses for cloudy days,
regular for sunny days, and clear. The Performance Bike shop type (Radial
II $60 bucks on sale) will have these - I opted not to get these b/c they
don't go all the way down to the cheek and I could see space below the
lense of about 3/8 inch - I like to have my view be uncluttered and not see
space or frame. Again, check the fit on your face - don't buy and fly.
(Performance is good b/c they'll take back stuff no questions.)

Apologies for the additional verbiage... ;-)
Good luck!

-Badger

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Fred Hall said:

Yikes!!! So many choices and contradictory opinions...I want to thank
everyone who replied. I'm learning a lot about prescription wraparounds
with and without inserts - that's for sure! I went to my optometrist

today

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to feel him out after reading up on mfgr web sites and MTB reviews web

site.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He said he doesn't carry any athletic style glasses with inserts because

he

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

tried to a few years back and said he only got about a dozen requests a

year

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for them (the joys of living in a small city - no volume) and very few

were

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ever happy with what they got, so that the back and forth shipping was
killing him...but he can put the lenses in the inserts I get if I want,

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

he gave me a copy of my prescription if I want to get them made over the
web.

So now I'm thinking, maybe go for the cheapie Performance pair with

inserts,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just to see if I like the concept with the thought of getting something

more

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

expensive later, or go whole hog and get a pair of Rudy Project with

inserts

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

now (that get really rave user reviews at the MTB site)...and the Oakley

M's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with integrated prescription lens (no inserts) looks pretty compelling

too.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Wish I was rich and could just try 'em all now!

Just a quick overview on this. You should get what you -know- will
work/satisfy you, b/c there's nothing worse than going for a solution that
-might- work and being unhappy about it.

So if I may suggest, save up your money and go for the prescription wraps
and get the best possible fit, and snug wrap and you know you'll be happy.
This would be the high end option. (I'd try and check on some kind of
insurance for them in this case - so you're not worrying about loss or
breakage.)

The lower end option would be to try the Performance pair with inserts for
50 bucks plus the insert lense to see if it will work. You will get dirt
and fogging, but it might not be so bad that it's unworkable. At least

then

Quoted message said:

you won't be out so much cash. If it does work, try the Rudys or other

high

Quoted message said:

ends - be sure and actually check the fit on your face.

Some ppl suggest getting the cheapest workable pairs of sunglasses b/c
sooner or later you'll lose them or break them. I got a great deal for $7
bucks that just happen to fit me like a glove - but I'm able to do this

b/c

Quoted message said:

I went the route of contacts. This to me is the best option if you have

3-4

Quoted message said:

diopter correction. You can have lots of pairs of cheap glasses and don't
have to worry. For me it's more about how well the wraps fit and seal to

my

Quoted message said:

face, and less about the rest.

You're probably going to want blue blocker type lenses for cloudy days,
regular for sunny days, and clear. The Performance Bike shop type (Radial
II $60 bucks on sale) will have these - I opted not to get these b/c they
don't go all the way down to the cheek and I could see space below the
lense of about 3/8 inch - I like to have my view be uncluttered and not

see

Quoted message said:

space or frame. Again, check the fit on your face - don't buy and fly.
(Performance is good b/c they'll take back stuff no questions.)

Apologies for the additional verbiage... ;-)
Good luck!

-Badger

No apology necessary...I'm new to this so inputs from those more experienced
is always welcome.

This bike bug can bite you...the beginning of last season (I'm in upstate
NY, so the "season" is about late April to mid-October unless you're into
cold and rain) I was riding a cheapo Walmart hybrid and got hooked on riding
and knew that heavy thing was no good...last August the LBS was having a
sale and I picked up a Gary Fisher hybrid at a good price (end of season
sale) and thought I was in heaven. At the time I was mainly riding bike
trails that were packed stonedust and fairly flat (along the old Erie
Canal), but when I took the Fisher on the road I had to pedal like hell to
get up to 25 mph on a downgrade, so long distance rides took a long
time...well a month ago I went to the LBS and got a decent deal on a Trek
1500...now I'm off the tree-lined trails and actually have to worry about
the sun and wind in my eyes...the Trek really flies (at least to me it seems
like it)! Thus the search for decent wraparounds.

Fred Hall said:

No apology necessary...I'm new to this so inputs from those more experienced
is always welcome.

This bike bug can bite you...the beginning of last season (I'm in upstate
NY, so the "season" is about late April to mid-October unless you're into
cold and rain) I was riding a cheapo Walmart hybrid and got hooked on riding
and knew that heavy thing was no good...last August the LBS was having a
sale and I picked up a Gary Fisher hybrid at a good price (end of season
sale) and thought I was in heaven. At the time I was mainly riding bike
trails that were packed stonedust and fairly flat (along the old Erie
Canal), but when I took the Fisher on the road I had to pedal like hell to
get up to 25 mph on a downgrade, so long distance rides took a long
time...well a month ago I went to the LBS and got a decent deal on a Trek
1500...now I'm off the tree-lined trails and actually have to worry about
the sun and wind in my eyes...the Trek really flies (at least to me it seems
like it)! Thus the search for decent wraparounds.

That's almost exactly my story, except I went right from the Wal-goose to
the Trek. Glad to hear you've graduated to a new set of "problems" <g>.

Hope that the sun and wind in your eyes are the most problems you have to
face! Good riding.

-B

Be careful with prescription inserts. I recently began to ride a motorcycle
and purchased sunglasses with an insert. I have a thick prescription and
when Lenscrafters finished them and I placed the insert into the goggle, it
blurred. When I took the insert out it was fine. I ended up returning them
and ordering a goggle without an insert from sportrx.com I could see out of
this one.

Apparently, there is some distortion when a thick prescription has to be
bent to fit into a pair of non-prescription sunglasses.

I ended up just using regular sunglasses with a full face shield helment.

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Fred Hall said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

I just went to my eyeglass-guy, and he showed me a pair of wraparound
Bolle glasses that can be made to my prescription (and I have progressive
lenses -- de rigeur for old farts). This seems much better than inserts.

Hi, what model and how much?

Thank you,
Jeff

Fred Hall said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

Quoted message said:

Anyone with experience using these inserts have any insights or
alternative recommendations?

Take a look at Sved Optics (www.svedoptics.com). They make custom
prescription inserts for most major brands. I had them make an insert for
the Oakley M frame. The total cost was less than Oakley's prescription
product, plus I can switch outer lenses and use the same insert.

The best prescription lenses are contacts. They won't contribute to
blurry vision from vibration when riding fast on bumpy roads.

--
Bill Bushnell

Jeff Starr said:

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Fred Hall said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

I just went to my eyeglass-guy, and he showed me a pair of wraparound
Bolle glasses that can be made to my prescription (and I have progressive
lenses -- de rigeur for old farts). This seems much better than inserts.

Hi, what model and how much?

Not sure. I go for my exam on 7/9, and get glasses maybe a week or so
thereafter. I will let you know.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember
_`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ
(_)/ (_) |

"Fred Hall" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be used
for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante or
Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a prescription
insert to go with them.

Right now I use my regular glasses that have the magnetic clip-on
sunglasses, but when I ride, even though they have light plastic lenses they
are just heavy enough to constantly slip down my nose just enough that I'm
always either pushing them up with one hand or looking over the top of them.

My question is, by adding the Rx insert to the wraparound sunglasses, will
it make them that much heavier and I'll experience the same "slippage"
problem? Or are they light enough/fit tight enough to stay put? Will I be
looking over the top of the insert? Anyone with experience using these
inserts have any insights or alternative recommendations?

I tried the insert for the Smith Moab glasses, but due to my lousy
eyes, they were far too thick to fit properly. I ended up with
contacts, and haven't looked back (har). I too had a bad experience
with contacts, when I was in high school. But, with the modern
disposable lenses and a proper fit, I can't complain. In fact, with
the toric lens my vision has never been better.

You should try contacts again, and complain if they aren't
confortable. Most optomologists will let you use sample pairs until
you get the right fit. If yours won't, find one who does -they get 'em
for free.

Eric

Hi. Don't know if this was covered here or not but Rudy Project makes a
number of sunglasses w/inserts. They also have interchangeable lenses as
well.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:01:00 +0000, Fred Hall wrote:

> I'm looking to get a decent pair of semi-wraparound sunglasses to be

used

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> for road riding...along the style of something like Bolle Vigilante

or

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> Parole. However, my eyes are bad enough where I'll need a

prescription

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> insert to go with them.

I just went to my eyeglass-guy, and he showed me a pair of wraparound
Bolle glasses that can be made to my prescription (and I have

progressive

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lenses -- de rigeur for old farts). This seems much better than

inserts.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi, what model and how much?

Not sure. I go for my exam on 7/9, and get glasses maybe a week or so
thereafter. I will let you know.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to

remember

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_`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ
(_)/ (_) |