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  1. I cycled down to the village to get the Sunday paper yesterday. On my
    way back up the hill I heard voices approaching behind me. I few seconds
    later a peloton-petit overtook me. They didn't say anything to me until
    I said good morning to them after they had almost passed me. So,
    roadies' indifference to MTBers (I happened to be on my MTB)? Or,
    helmet-wearers' indifference to the unhelmeted (they were all with, I
    was without)? To be honest the most annoying thing was the speed and
    ease at which they passed me, while talking, while I struggled. My bike
    was heavier. I suspect they were just too heads down to notice me! The
    roady coming down a few minutes later at 30+mph did say hello but then
    he was unhelmeted!

    Colin

  2. Colin Blackburn said:

    I cycled down to the village to get the Sunday paper yesterday. On my
    way back up the hill I heard voices approaching behind me. I few
    seconds later a peloton-petit overtook me. They didn't say anything
    to me until I said good morning to them after they had almost passed
    me.

    So, what did they say?

    Quoted message said:

    So, roadies' indifference to MTBers (I happened to be on my MTB)?
    Or, helmet-wearers' indifference to the unhelmeted (they were all
    with, I was without)? To be honest the most annoying thing was the
    speed and ease at which they passed me, while talking, while I
    struggled. My bike was heavier. I suspect they were just too heads
    down to notice me! The roady coming down a few minutes later at
    30+mph did say hello but then he was unhelmeted!

    I nearly always say hello to all and sundry. I have no idea why as I don't
    bother when I'm walking down the street. And I ride a road bike.

  3. Simonb said:

    So, what did they say?

    One of their number said good morning back.

    Quoted message said:

    I nearly always say hello to all and sundry. I have no idea why as I don't
    bother when I'm walking down the street. And I ride a road bike.

    Me too but then I live in a fairly rural area so I tend to say hello to
    everyone regardless of mode of transport!

    To be honest it was just a one-off observation. I pass roadies, MTBers
    and tour-cyclists all the time and almost without fail they acknowledge
    me, if I don't say something first, whether I'm on a tourer, MTB or
    Brompton. The one significant exception was last year when I was stood
    on the roadside next to my bike in the middle of nowhere and an old
    fellow came past on a road bike. He didn't even make eye contact with me
    despite me speaking to him. At that moment in time we might have been
    the only two people in the world.

    Colin

  4. Colin Blackburn said:

    The
    roady coming down a few minutes later at 30+mph did say hello but then
    he was unhelmeted!

    Which proves without any doubt whatsoever that the unhelmeted are
    sociable, friendly and courteous beings ;-)

    ....and fast.

    John B

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Colin Blackburn said:

    I cycled down to the village to get the Sunday paper yesterday. On my
    way back up the hill I heard voices approaching behind me. I few seconds
    later a peloton-petit overtook me. They didn't say anything to me until
    I said good morning to them after they had almost passed me. So,
    roadies' indifference to MTBers

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    I get this all the time on my commute when roadies (always men) pass me.
    I ride a bespoke touring bike but horror of horrors I wear a flappy
    cotton teeshirt (not a lycra top) and trainers (not cycle shoes). Very
    rarely do any passing roadies say hello to me.

    Depending on my mood, I content myself by either:

    1. Sitting on their back wheel for a mile or two just to wind them up
    that "OhMyGod a girlie in trainers and flappy tshirt can keep up with
    me", or

    2. Smiling to myself because in my racing days I know I was a lot lot
    faster than most of them put together.

  6. Sue Rogers said:

    2. Smiling to myself because in my racing days I know I was a lot lot
    faster than most of them put together.

    Of course you were, dear.

    ;-)

  7. "Sue Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Colin Blackburn said:

    I cycled down to the village to get the Sunday paper yesterday. On my
    way back up the hill I heard voices approaching behind me. I few seconds
    later a peloton-petit overtook me. They didn't say anything to me until
    I said good morning to them after they had almost passed me. So,
    roadies' indifference to MTBers

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    Total bollox, I'm a roadie and will greet/pass time of day with other
    cyclists irrespective of their steeds.

    Cheers, helen s

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wafflycat' waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:


    Total bollox, I'm a roadie and will greet/pass time of day with other
    cyclists irrespective of their steeds.

    Cheers, helen s

    Ah but you're a Girl Roadie by your name.

    I'm an ex-girl roadie and I too always say hello when I overtake anyone
    on a bike, irrespective of what they're wearing/riding.

  9. "Sue Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    wafflycat' waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:


    Total bollox, I'm a roadie and will greet/pass time of day with other
    cyclists irrespective of their steeds.

    Cheers, helen s

    Ah but you're a Girl Roadie by your name.

    I'm an ex-girl roadie and I too always say hello when I overtake anyone
    on a bike, irrespective of what they're wearing/riding.

    There are two male rodies in this household who are equally as cheerful

    Cheers, helen s

  10. wafflycat said:


    "Sue Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Colin Blackburn said:

    I cycled down to the village to get the Sunday paper yesterday. On my
    way back up the hill I heard voices approaching behind me. I few seconds
    later a peloton-petit overtook me. They didn't say anything to me until
    I said good morning to them after they had almost passed me. So,
    roadies' indifference to MTBers

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    Total bollox, I'm a roadie and will greet/pass time of day with other
    cyclists irrespective of their steeds.

    Cheers, helen s

    You don't count in roadiedom because a) your a girlie and b) you don't
    wear bib shorts. ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  11. Sue Rogers said:

    They didn't say anything to me until

    Quoted message said:

    I said good morning to them after they had almost passed me. So,
    roadies' indifference to MTBers

    I get this all the time on my commute when roadies (always men) pass me.

    We're bought up in a world where a man addressing a girl he doesn't know
    risks getting into trouble. They're just too shy to speak to you
    until you've spoken to them.

    Quoted message said:

    1. Sitting on their back wheel for a mile or two just to wind them up
    that "OhMyGod a girlie in trainers and flappy tshirt can keep up with
    me", or

    Hmmm .... If someone sits on my back wheel for any length of time,
    I reckon they can take a turn in front. Especially a girlie in
    flappy t-shirt:-)

    --
    Not me guv

  12. Sue Rogers said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Colin Blackburn said:

    I cycled down to the village to get the Sunday paper yesterday. On
    my way back up the hill I heard voices approaching behind me. I few
    seconds later a peloton-petit overtook me. They didn't say anything
    to me until I said good morning to them after they had almost
    passed me. So, roadies' indifference to MTBers

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    I get this all the time on my commute when roadies (always men) pass
    me. I ride a bespoke touring bike but horror of horrors I wear a
    flappy cotton teeshirt (not a lycra top) and trainers (not cycle
    shoes). Very rarely do any passing roadies say hello to me.

    Being a FBOAB [1] on the rare occasion that I do pass anyone, they do
    seem rather keen to overtake me again. Of course, all they need to do
    is wait for the next hill and they'll do it easily. Hills are not my
    strong point as yet 😉

    Chris

    [1] Fat bloke on a bike
    --
    Chris Eilbeck

  13. Chris Eilbeck said:


    Being a FBOAB [1] on the rare occasion that I do pass anyone, they do
    seem rather keen to overtake me again.

    Being reasonably fit, when in BOF on a Brompton mode, people hate being
    passed and not infrequently blow up trying to get back.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  14. Response to Sue Rogers:

    Quoted message said:

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    I tend to find that roadies will give me a nod when I'm on the trike, but
    not when I'm commuting on the upright (drop bars, but ordinary work
    clothes, small backpack and No Plastic Hat unless it's raining).

    --
    Mark, UK

    "On two occasions I have been asked, "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into
    the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" I am not
    able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
    provoke such a question."

  15. "Nick Kew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hmmm .... If someone sits on my back wheel for any length of time,
    I reckon they can take a turn in front. Especially a girlie in
    flappy t-shirt:-)

    There are often other benefits besides pacing if the lady rides in front.

    (I'll get me rain mac).
    --
    Pete
    http:[email hidden]/P

  16. Tony Raven said:
    Chris Eilbeck said:

    Being a FBOAB [1] on the rare occasion that I do pass anyone, they do
    seem rather keen to overtake me again.

    Being reasonably fit, when in BOF on a Brompton mode, people hate
    being passed and not infrequently blow up trying to get back.

    I'm tempted sometimes to put a very small video camera under the seat
    looking backwards and recording into DV recorder in my rucksack just
    so I can see what people reactions really are.

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck


  17. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    Total bollox, I'm a roadie and will greet/pass time of day with other
    cyclists irrespective of their steeds.

    You sure?
    Roadies just never ever have three wheels.

    And you support testers.
    Oh no, you're not a real roadie ;-)

    John B

  18. Sue Rogers said:

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    FSVO "roadie"! This might be true of the more competitive riders, but
    despite being a lycra-clad roadie (Some of the time) I tend to at least
    acknowledge other cyclists. Riding in a city makes the "hello"s a little
    too frequent, but I tend to smile and make eye contact when possible.

    Quoted message said:

    I get this all the time on my commute when roadies (always men) pass me.
    I ride a bespoke touring bike but horror of horrors I wear a flappy
    cotton teeshirt (not a lycra top) and trainers (not cycle shoes). Very
    rarely do any passing roadies say hello to me.

    I actually tend not to say hello to someone I pass (in town) for the
    simple reason that to do so always strikes me as a little patronising.
    It smacks of "I can not only go faster than you, but I've got enough
    breath left to be friendly". Out of town, on the country roads, I'm far
    more likely to say hello to a rider, oncoming or being passed.

    Quoted message said:

    Depending on my mood, I content myself by either:

    1. Sitting on their back wheel for a mile or two just to wind them up
    that "OhMyGod a girlie in trainers and flappy tshirt can keep up with
    me", or

    If a "girlie in trainers and flappy tshirt" sat on my rear wheel for a
    while, I'd probably slow down and chat. If someone could bear to stare
    at my back end for any period of time without trying to overtake or
    replan their route, they might make for interesting company! ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    2. Smiling to myself because in my racing days I know I was a lot lot
    faster than most of them put together.

    Mmmm. The thing about smugness is that it (sadly) proves nothing. It's
    very easy to say "If I'd really wanted I could have had him", but the
    only way to have an effect on the roadie in question would be to do take
    them! Preferably on a climb.

    Jon

  19. Mark McNeill said:

    Response to Sue Rogers:

    Quoted message said:

    It's roadies' indifference to anything else which isn't a roadie.

    I tend to find that roadies will give me a nod when I'm on the trike, but
    not when I'm commuting on the upright (drop bars, but ordinary work
    clothes, small backpack and No Plastic Hat unless it's raining).

    All of the roadies we pass on the triplet are to gob smacked to respond
    to anything (well the three times it has happened they were).

    I have however trained the kids to always say hello to anyone on a bike
    and it takes a very serious roadie not to respond to that.

    When I'm in roadie mode I still say hello to all cyclists, but there is
    one commuting roadie for whom it took 2 years of this happening
    regularly for him to start responding.

    Oddly it is the ladies on bikes with baskets on the front are the ones
    who don't respond most.

    --chris

  20. Jon Senior said:

    If a "girlie in trainers and flappy tshirt" sat on my rear wheel for a
    while, I'd probably slow down and chat. If someone could bear to stare
    at my back end for any period of time without trying to overtake or
    replan their route, they might make for interesting company! ;-)

    They're only after the wicker basket!

    ;-)

    ...d

    (York pics to come soon..)

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