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  1. this 'summit' (http://tinyurl.com/djvdz)or this 'QU-AX'
    (http://tinyurl.com/480l)

    i have a choice. they are both 300$ and im not sure wich is better,
    help please

    -Riley

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  2. qu-ax or the new torker dx 2006, that yuni doesnt have splined cranks
    and they dont make summits anymore.

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  3. I havent heard many reviews on the new 20" torker. HEY! You people
    with this unicycle! You know who you are, tell us what it's like!!

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  4. Qu-ax.

    Or Torker if you can afford it.

    Im not sure very many people -hav- the 20". I might have one soon
    though....

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  5. i know they dont make summits anymore, but i can buy one almost brand
    new. with like 0 miles on it(the one in the link)

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  6. Hi,

    I only know the qu-ax trial that i have been owning for 6 months now. I
    am very happy with it, i submit it to a lot of stresses and it
    survives. Nevertheless I broke the saddle frame and twisted the seat
    post on a bad fall. I almost practice street and it's great for it. You
    can find a video of what i do with it on a post from past week : My 2nd
    street vid.

    I would say go for it, but i don't really know the others...

    Manuel

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  7. Forrest, I know you've had the '06 DX 24inch for a while, have you
    gotten to ride it much? How is it working out for you?

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  8. guys... anymore comments?

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  9. Spudman said:

    I havent heard many reviews on the new 20" torker. HEY! You people with
    this unicycle! You know who you are, tell us what it's like!!

    here are some reviews on the new 20" dx
    http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopreviewlist.asp?id=764
    i guess those reviews will stay there even though the new one is
    significantly different🙄

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  10. Yeah, I don't know why those reviews are still there. It's a different
    unicycle now!

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  11. One problem with the Summit's and the older KH's is that they have an
    ankle killing nub on the cranks. Darren Bedford had (and may still
    have) a hardware kit that would allow you to get rid of the nub. It
    was a replacement crank bolt and then you have to do some grinding or
    cutting of the crank to remove the nub.

    I don't know how bad of a nub the QU-AX has. From the picture it looks
    like it has some sort of nub that could hit your ankle but it looks to
    be not as bad as the KH because the QU-AX cranks look to have a bit of
    extra outward curvature and the nub doesn't look too big in the
    picture. It's something to investigate.

    So if you get the Summit you will probably want to do the crank nub
    modification which will take a little bit of money for the additional
    hardware and some basic machining (grinding or cutting). You'll also
    need to add some sort of handle to the Viscount seat.

    With the QU-AX you'll have to find out how ankle friendly the cranks
    are. It also comes with a seat with a handle so you're better off in
    that regard.

    Looks like the QU-AX is ahead on the score card.

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  12. john_childs said:

    One problem with the Summit's and the older KH's is that they have an
    ankle killing nub on the cranks. Darren Bedford had (and may still
    have) a hardware kit that would allow you to get rid of the nub. It
    was a replacement crank bolt and then you have to do some grinding or
    cutting of the crank to remove the nub.

    So if you get the Summit you will probably want to do the crank nub
    modification which will take a little bit of money for the additional
    hardware and some basic machining (grinding or cutting). You'll also
    need to add some sort of handle to the Viscount seat.

    The fix is '04 KH crank bolts.

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  13. *::a cupple of questions. How long ago was the summit made? What is the
    seat post size? How much dose it weigh? What is the heavyest part the i
    can relace eazly with out have wasted me moneyt? maybe i could buy a
    Yuni frame.::*

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  14. redhead said:

    *::a cupple of questions. How long ago was the summit made? What is the
    seat post size? How much dose it weigh? What is the heavyest part the i
    can relace eazly with out have wasted me moneyt? maybe i could buy a
    Yuni frame.::*

    I believe the Summits were made in '02 '03 The hub IS an '03 KH with
    an Alex DX 32 rim. 27.2 seatpost. The frame is considered heavy, but it
    is also increadibley strong with excellent machined bearing holders. So
    there are no parts to switch out, but I don't think the weight is that
    excessive. Besides Summit's are cool 🙂 I need to bring it to work so
    i can weigh it.

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  15. is the summit really, heavy?

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  16. i need a traight answer, its between the qu-ax and the summit. if i
    could get the summit cheaper i would buy it in a heartbeat, but because
    it is a reletively high price. im having second thoughts

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  17. Weight will be posted tommorrow

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  18. ok, hope its not too heavy =\
    i cant hop very high so i need a middle weight unicycle

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  19. Quoted message said:

    I don't know how bad of a nub the QU-AX has. From the picture it looks
    like it has some sort of nub that could hit your ankle but it looks to
    be not as bad as the KH because the QU-AX cranks look to have a bit of
    extra outward curvature and the nub doesn't look too big in the
    picture.

    Yes, the QU-AX cranks do have Q on them. I never hit my ankles, so its
    not a problem.

    I havn't heard of anyone break a QU-AX hub/cranks (the splined one).
    That Yuni with the UDC hub looks a lot more vulnerable to damage, as it
    is not splined - so I wouldn't want to go with that for trials. The
    QU-AX is a fantastic unicycle, and looks to have a much better saddle
    than the Summit in the pic. (Although it may be comfier for the firt
    couple of weeks, the padding in the Viscount saddle will probably soon
    move around into different places, leaving you with no padding where
    you need it most.)

    48 spokes on the QU-AX, along with a double-walled rim are unlikely to
    fail you. Not sure how the Summit compares, but the parts that come
    with the QU-AX (pedals, seatpost clamp etc) are of great quality.

    Hope I've been able to help anybody else considering a new trials uni,

    Calum.

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  20. fishnchipsx2 said:

    Yes, the QU-AX cranks do have Q on them. I never hit my ankles, so its
    not a problem.

    I havn't heard of anyone break a QU-AX hub/cranks (the splined one).
    That Yuni with the UDC hub looks a lot more vulnerable to damage, as it
    is not splined - so I wouldn't want to go with that for trials. The
    QU-AX is a fantastic unicycle, and looks to have a much better saddle
    than the Summit in the pic. (Although it may be comfier for the firt
    couple of weeks, the padding in the Viscount saddle will probably soon
    move around into different places, leaving you with no padding where
    you need it most.)

    48 spokes on the QU-AX, along with a double-walled rim are unlikely to
    fail you. Not sure how the Summit compares, but the parts that come
    with the QU-AX (pedals, seatpost clamp etc) are of great quality.

    Hope I've been able to help anybody else considering a new trials uni,

    Calum.

    One thing the Viscount foam will never do is move. I've taken them
    apart and believe me that foam is ADHERED! I also think with the
    addition of a KH handle is one of the best trials seats, very
    comfortable to hold for seat out. It's certainly not the most
    comfortable saddle, but trials isn't much about sitting on the saddle.

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