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  1. just recently i've seen quite a bit of well frankly dumb cycling, from
    one lady really riding in the gutter, to the other day a bloke coming
    out from a side road in kingston and turing right on to the bus lane ie
    the lane, ie not the left side but right and then riding the wrong way
    up the road, on the the painted bike lane, still the wrong way.

    and a few other oddness

    there is the hampton flowershow which has clogged the roads lovely, but
    i haven't attaully notice a increase of cyclists such as late spring
    when all these bikes emerge from the winter slumber.

    prob just i've been there at the wrong time etc.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  2. (Roger Merriman) said:

    i haven't attaully notice a increase of cyclists such as late spring
    when all these bikes emerge from the winter slumber.

    I haven't actually noticed much summer weather yet.
    Well, actually April was good but then it went backwards.
    The bike shed at work is much fuller on the odd day when it has
    stopped raining

  3. In news:[email hidden],
    POHB <[email hidden]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:

    Quoted message said:
    (Roger Merriman) said:

    i haven't attaully notice a increase of cyclists such as late spring
    when all these bikes emerge from the winter slumber.

    I haven't actually noticed much summer weather yet.
    Well, actually April was good but then it went backwards.
    The bike shed at work is much fuller on the odd day when it has
    stopped raining

    First couple of weekends in June were OK too. I got seriously sunburned
    shins on the South Then North (June 2nd/3rd).

    --
    Dave Larrington
    <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
    Kinder surprise! What's the surprise? Your children are now dead.

  4. POHB said:
    (Roger Merriman) said:

    i haven't attaully notice a increase of cyclists such as late spring
    when all these bikes emerge from the winter slumber.

    I haven't actually noticed much summer weather yet.
    Well, actually April was good but then it went backwards.
    The bike shed at work is much fuller on the odd day when it has
    stopped raining

    yeah is fairly wet and windy, still got to use all those low gears
    hawling the bit of shopping back though bushy park.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  5. (Roger Merriman) said:

    yeah is fairly wet and windy, still got to use all those low gears
    hawling the bit of shopping back though bushy park.

    It was nice and dry here today. Did the run to where I'm working (4
    miles with a 91m climb at the end according to bikely) in 16 minutes
    due to the wind. Consequently the downhill ride home took about 20
    minutes!

    Better news though, a colleague is having surgery to repair torn
    cartilidge in his knee next week and says he's been told to do cycling
    type exercises afterwards and is going to start cycling to work as
    well - that would make 2 of us so only another 50 or so others to
    convert!

    pete

  6. naked_draughtsman said:
    (Roger Merriman) said:

    yeah is fairly wet and windy, still got to use all those low gears
    hawling the bit of shopping back though bushy park.

    It was nice and dry here today. Did the run to where I'm working (4
    miles with a 91m climb at the end according to bikely) in 16 minutes
    due to the wind. Consequently the downhill ride home took about 20
    minutes!


    heh.

    Quoted message said:

    Better news though, a colleague is having surgery to repair torn
    cartilidge in his knee next week and says he's been told to do cycling
    type exercises afterwards and is going to start cycling to work as
    well - that would make 2 of us so only another 50 or so others to
    convert!


    Sounds painful though for him though.

    would the cycling not possibly do further damadge? it does seem to be a
    cyclist's injury. knees that is.

    Quoted message said:

    pete

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  7. [email hidden] (Roger Merriman)typed

    Quoted message said:

    naked_draughtsman <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    (Roger Merriman) said:

    yeah is fairly wet and windy, still got to use all those low gears
    hawling the bit of shopping back though bushy park.

    It was nice and dry here today. Did the run to where I'm working (4
    miles with a 91m climb at the end according to bikely) in 16 minutes
    due to the wind. Consequently the downhill ride home took about 20
    minutes!


    heh.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Better news though, a colleague is having surgery to repair torn
    cartilidge in his knee next week and says he's been told to do cycling
    type exercises afterwards and is going to start cycling to work as
    well - that would make 2 of us so only another 50 or so others to
    convert!


    Sounds painful though for him though.

    Quoted message said:

    would the cycling not possibly do further damadge? it does seem to be a
    cyclist's injury. knees that is.

    Torn cartilages are NOT a cyclist's injury; footballers are another matter.

    Cycling is excellent for weak knees as there are pretty well no sideways
    stresses though the knee makes a good range of movements. Knee trouble
    from cycling tends to relate to patellofemoral tracking problems or
    those of the iliotibial band, neither of which are inside the knee joint
    proper.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, Helen Deborah
    Vecht
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Torn cartilages are NOT a cyclist's injury; footballers are another matter.

    I thought bucket handle mensicus tears were a fairly common use injury
    in cyclists with lax ligaments who push big gears.

  9. On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:56:36 +0100, Rob Morley <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Helen Deborah
    Vecht
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Torn cartilages are NOT a cyclist's injury; footballers are another matter.

    I thought bucket handle mensicus tears were a fairly common use injury
    in cyclists with lax ligaments who push big gears.

    Unlikely, when you think of the physics. Meniscus tears are normally
    associated with sideways or twisting movements. I guess if you're
    pushing a really high gear and standing up you may also provoke some
    twisting of the knee, but even then I wouldn't have thought the forces
    would be sufficiently acute to cause cartilage damage.

    Cycling is most definitely a recommended activity for those with knee
    problems. I've had minor tears to both knees and my wife has one knee
    with no meniscus left at all, together with a reconstructed acl. In
    all cases, the surgeons have been keen to suggest cycling, not just as
    an acceptable leisure, but as a form of physiotherapy in its own
    right.

  10. Helen Deborah Vecht said:

    [email hidden] (Roger Merriman)typed

    Quoted message said:

    naked_draughtsman <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 6, 3:20 pm, [email hidden] (Roger Merriman) wrote:
    > yeah is fairly wet and windy, still got to use all those low gears
    > hawling the bit of shopping back though bushy park.

    It was nice and dry here today. Did the run to where I'm working (4
    miles with a 91m climb at the end according to bikely) in 16 minutes
    due to the wind. Consequently the downhill ride home took about 20
    minutes!


    heh.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Better news though, a colleague is having surgery to repair torn
    cartilidge in his knee next week and says he's been told to do cycling
    type exercises afterwards and is going to start cycling to work as
    well - that would make 2 of us so only another 50 or so others to
    convert!


    Sounds painful though for him though.

    Quoted message said:

    would the cycling not possibly do further damadge? it does seem to be a
    cyclist's injury. knees that is.

    Torn cartilages are NOT a cyclist's injury; footballers are another matter.

    Cycling is excellent for weak knees as there are pretty well no sideways
    stresses though the knee makes a good range of movements. Knee trouble
    from cycling tends to relate to patellofemoral tracking problems or
    those of the iliotibial band, neither of which are inside the knee joint
    proper.

    no idea what i did to it, but one of my knees which i damadged years
    ago, and riding defnintly as aposed to walking etc causes some
    discomfort.

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  11. On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:26:40 +0100, [email hidden] (Roger

    Merriman) said:

    Helen Deborah Vecht <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cycling is excellent for weak knees as there are pretty well no sideways
    stresses though the knee makes a good range of movements. Knee trouble
    from cycling tends to relate to patellofemoral tracking problems or
    those of the iliotibial band, neither of which are inside the knee joint
    proper.

    no idea what i did to it, but one of my knees which i damadged years
    ago, and riding defnintly as aposed to walking etc causes some
    discomfort.

    Sure, if you have an existing, untreated injury such as a cartilage
    tear, it's quite likely that it may be aggregated by cycling or any
    other exercise, depending on the precise nature and location of said
    injuty.

    I'd get it looked at, as it may be that a simple procedure (normally
    in-out in a day for a routine arthroscopy) could significantly imrpove
    things for you.

    Or not, as the case may be.

  12. Helen Deborah Vecht of said:

    Cycling is excellent for weak knees as there are pretty well no sideways
    stresses though the knee makes a good range of movements. Knee trouble
    from cycling tends to relate to patellofemoral tracking problems or
    those of the iliotibial band, neither of which are inside the knee joint
    proper.


    I've got what has been tentatively diagnosed as a patella mistracking
    problem - I say tentative because the recommended treatments aren't working
    at the moment, so I'm not personally convinced the diagnosis is correct yet.
    What is it about cycling that causes this type of injury? Is there anything
    I should stop doing to avoid making it worse?
    --
    Steph Peters
    Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group
    Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm

  13. Steph Peters <[email hidden]>typed

    Quoted message said:
    Helen Deborah Vecht of said:

    Cycling is excellent for weak knees as there are pretty well no sideways
    stresses though the knee makes a good range of movements. Knee trouble
    from cycling tends to relate to patellofemoral tracking problems or
    those of the iliotibial band, neither of which are inside the knee joint
    proper.


    I've got what has been tentatively diagnosed as a patella mistracking
    problem - I say tentative because the recommended treatments aren't working
    at the moment, so I'm not personally convinced the diagnosis is correct yet.
    What is it about cycling that causes this type of injury? Is there anything
    I should stop doing to avoid making it worse?
    --
    Steph Peters
    Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group
    Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm

    The quadriceps muscle straightens the knee.

    Vastus lateralis pulls the patella sideways (outwards) in much of its action.
    Vastus medialis pulls it inwards, but is only really active when the
    knee is just about straight. It's easy for imbalance to arise,
    especially in a woman. Women tend to have knees

    that are somewhat \ /
    ||
    shaped due to their pelvic and other feminine body shapes.

    The female patella is also smaller.

    The best exercises for this problem invole NEVER straightening the knee
    against resistance.

    Straight leg raising with or without ankle weights is good. (A bag of
    rice/lentils will do.)
    Sitting in a chair holding your leg straight out in front of you is
    good. (Hey, you could be doing this right now while you type!) Do this
    for as long as you can, then repeat.

    Don't push high gears on your bike.
    Make sure your saddle is high enough.
    If your knee hurts when going down stairs, take as much weight as
    possible through your arms on a handrail.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  14. Ace said:

    On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:26:40 +0100, [email hidden] (Roger

    Merriman) said:

    Helen Deborah Vecht <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cycling is excellent for weak knees as there are pretty well no sideways
    stresses though the knee makes a good range of movements. Knee trouble
    from cycling tends to relate to patellofemoral tracking problems or
    those of the iliotibial band, neither of which are inside the knee joint
    proper.

    no idea what i did to it, but one of my knees which i damadged years
    ago, and riding defnintly as aposed to walking etc causes some
    discomfort.

    Sure, if you have an existing, untreated injury such as a cartilage
    tear, it's quite likely that it may be aggregated by cycling or any
    other exercise, depending on the precise nature and location of said
    injuty.


    google for cycling knee njuries or varations seems to get plenty of
    hit's i'd say it's certinaly a issue.

    Quoted message said:

    I'd get it looked at, as it may be that a simple procedure (normally
    in-out in a day for a routine arthroscopy) could significantly imrpove
    things for you.


    prob at some point as it's not cut and dry ie doesn't effect walking
    etc, though phycial impact sets it off as i suspect was the orginal
    cause.

    Quoted message said:

    Or not, as the case may be.

    indeed

    roger
    --
    www.rogermerriman.com

  15. Helen Deborah Vecht of said:

    Vastus lateralis pulls the patella sideways (outwards) in much of its action.
    Vastus medialis pulls it inwards, but is only really active when the
    knee is just about straight. It's easy for imbalance to arise,
    especially in a woman. Women tend to have knees

    that are somewhat \ /
    ||
    shaped due to their pelvic and other feminine body shapes.


    Yes, that's what mine are doing. I have shoe inserts with build up on the
    inside of the feet to change the balance.

    Quoted message said:

    The best exercises for this problem invole NEVER straightening the knee
    against resistance.


    Not doing anything much involving resistance, other than just walking
    around.

    Quoted message said:

    Straight leg raising with or without ankle weights is good. (A bag of
    rice/lentils will do.)
    Sitting in a chair holding your leg straight out in front of you is
    good. (Hey, you could be doing this right now while you type!) Do this
    for as long as you can, then repeat.


    Will give that a go. A previous knee injury to a ligament resulted in me
    being given an exercise to draw alphabets in the air using my foot while
    keeping a straight leg. The physio's theory was that cyclists can do leg
    raises for a long time with little effect, but the alphabets are less
    boring, and it's easier not to lose count so as to monitor progress.

    Quoted message said:

    Don't push high gears on your bike.
    Make sure your saddle is high enough.
    If your knee hurts when going down stairs, take as much weight as
    possible through your arms on a handrail.


    Doing all of those. Fortunately they don't hurt much when going downstairs,
    a lot less with the inserts.

    Thanks for the advice.
    --
    Steph Peters
    Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group
    Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester
    http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/cycling/chwan.htm

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