summer chain lube dries off!

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at 90 degress general air temp in full sun - valvo 70-140 synthetic
transmission fluid dries out off the cleaned and lubed chain at 0
miles( not flung off) at 20 miles
finish line epic dires off at 10-15 miles
dry so that grit needs washed off with solvent thinner not rubbed off
with the remaining trans fluid
do you add lube when the chain dries out during a ride
or riding onward, have you not noticed the effect?

How can your chain "dry" out? Why would anything used as a lubricating
fluid be volitile enough to evaporate completely at 90-100 degrees F?
Transmission fluid is surely exposed to far higher temperatures than
that in normal use. If you put a small amount of it on some non-porous
surface in the sun, does it evaporate?

I think it's more likely that the oil you are using thins in high
temperatures to the point that it is easily flung off the chain. Also,
does your chain squeak? If not, it isn't dry.

-Mark

If you put a small amount of it on some non-porous
surface in the sun, does it evaporate?
yes!!
lubricants, usually in 2006 not 1915 or 1936, are contained not run in
a total loss system.
clean chain and lube ride and check it out.
yes! the remaining question was - is there any lubrication left on the
chain after the chain's surface appears, feels smells and tastes dry?
not only for some mild assurance that there is some remaining lubricant
protetion but in preparation for a standard defense put forth by the
lube company - but like moist, i prefer my lubes wet.

so what happens to megabuck lubes for exampull - pro gold?
or in retro - triflow?

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If you put a small amount of it on some non-porous
surface in the sun, does it evaporate?
yes!!
lubricants, usually in 2006 not 1915 or 1936, are contained not run in
a total loss system.
clean chain and lube ride and check it out.
yes! the remaining question was - is there any lubrication left on the
chain after the chain's surface appears, feels smells and tastes dry?
not only for some mild assurance that there is some remaining lubricant
protetion but in preparation for a standard defense put forth by the
lube company - but like moist, i prefer my lubes wet.

so what happens to megabuck lubes for exampull - pro gold?
or in retro - triflow?

I cannot help but ask:

What does a dry chain taste like?

Dave
Noblesville, Indiana

dave - this is a hands on group
go out and RIDE!

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so what happens to megabuck lubes for exampull - pro gold?
or in retro - triflow?

Do you ride in the rain a lot or leave your bike out in the rain?
That's about the only way to quickly lose the chain lube. I use Prolink
Gold. I only need it once a week or so.

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dave - this is a hands on group
go out and RIDE!

Sounds like more than just hands-on, I dare say toungue-on.

I like your style, ride with everything you've got, what an inspiration!

Thanks;

Dave Reckoning
Noblesville, Indiana

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If you put a small amount of it on some non-porous
surface in the sun, does it evaporate?
yes!!
lubricants, usually in 2006 not 1915 or 1936, are contained not run in
a total loss system.
clean chain and lube ride and check it out.
yes! the remaining question was - is there any lubrication left on the
chain after the chain's surface appears, feels smells and tastes dry?
not only for some mild assurance that there is some remaining lubricant
protetion but in preparation for a standard defense put forth by the
lube company - but like moist, i prefer my lubes wet.

so what happens to megabuck lubes for exampull - pro gold?
or in retro - triflow?

Hmmm... I use prolink on my "dry weather" bike. I put about 325 miles
on it since the last lubrication, including 50 miles yesterday in 90
degree heat, and probably lower humidity than Florida (where I
understand you live, Gene). No problems that I can see, the chain is
still silent.

Beyond providing a datapoint against using transmission fluid on chains
(which might actually be a *good* idea, I dunno), I don't see what the
issue is.

Mark

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Quoted message said:

at 90 degress general air temp in full sun - valvo 70-140 synthetic
transmission fluid dries out off the cleaned and lubed chain at 0
miles( not flung off) at 20 miles
finish line epic dires off at 10-15 miles
dry so that grit needs washed off with solvent thinner not rubbed off
with the remaining trans fluid
do you add lube when the chain dries out during a ride
or riding onward, have you not noticed the effect?

How can your chain "dry" out? Why would anything used as a lubricating
fluid be volitile enough to evaporate completely at 90-100 degrees F?
Transmission fluid is surely exposed to far higher temperatures than
that in normal use. If you put a small amount of it on some non-porous
surface in the sun, does it evaporate?

I think it's more likely that the oil you are using thins in high
temperatures to the point that it is easily flung off the chain. Also,
does your chain squeak? If not, it isn't dry.

-Mark

Dear Mark,

It's probably not even automatic transmission fluid, which is thin and
comes in varieties with names and letter grades:

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/category.asp?cid=3

A phrase like "70-140" sounds more like thick, heavy gear oil, which is
sometimes called "differential fluid."

Neither heavy gear oil nor thin ATF evaporate rapidly at bicycle chain
temperatures.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel

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at 90 degress general air temp in full sun - valvo 70-140 synthetic
transmission fluid dries out off the cleaned and lubed chain at 0
miles( not flung off) at 20 miles
finish line epic dires off at 10-15 miles
dry so that grit needs washed off with solvent thinner not rubbed off
with the remaining trans fluid
do you add lube when the chain dries out during a ride
or riding onward, have you not noticed the effect?

How can your chain "dry" out? Why would anything used as a lubricating
fluid be volitile enough to evaporate completely at 90-100 degrees F?
Transmission fluid is surely exposed to far higher temperatures than
that in normal use. If you put a small amount of it on some non-porous
surface in the sun, does it evaporate?

I think it's more likely that the oil you are using thins in high
temperatures to the point that it is easily flung off the chain. Also,
does your chain squeak? If not, it isn't dry.

-Mark

Dear Mark,

It's probably not even automatic transmission fluid, which is thin and
comes in varieties with names and letter grades:

http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/category.asp?cid=3

A phrase like "70-140" sounds more like thick, heavy gear oil, which is
sometimes called "differential fluid."

Neither heavy gear oil nor thin ATF evaporate rapidly at bicycle chain
temperatures.

Well, maybe he's just practicing a *really* high cadence. Someone
could follow behind the bike and watch for blue smoke.

-Mark

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Cheers,

Carl Fogel