suitable bike for girl

"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Does anyone have any recommendations for a mountainbike for a girl? She is 5ft8 and is looking to
spend about £500 (about $750).

That's a tall girl. Are you sure she isn't a woman? :-)

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I'm thinking of something mainstream (she also lives in the UK so it's

hard

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to get "exotic" bikes). Maybe something from Specialized / Kona / Marin.

I would really appreciate any feedback from girls since I am not familiar with ladies' bikes. I'm
not even sure whether a ladies' bike would be the most appropriate?

A "ladies" bike is not necessary. Have her go to a reputable LBS so she can get fitted properly with
a bike that suits her needs and skills.

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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Does anyone have any recommendations for a mountainbike for a girl? She is 5ft8 and is looking to
spend about £500 (about $750).

I'm thinking of something mainstream (she also lives in the UK so it's

hard

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to get "exotic" bikes). Maybe something from Specialized / Kona / Marin.

I would really appreciate any feedback from girls since I am not familiar with ladies' bikes. I'm
not even sure whether a ladies' bike would be the most appropriate?

TIA

Some of it depends on what she will be doing on it - pavement? Light trails? Technical trails? Etc.

For pavement/light trails, she might be better off with a bike in the 'comfort bike' category, which
looks very much like a mountain bike, but is a bit 'easier going' and more upright riding position.

Anyhow, your best bet would be to go to a good bike shop, preferably one (or several) recommended by
someone you trust in these matters, and let her try as many as she can. Fit is foremost! Get a bike
that fits, not necessarily a WSD (Woman Specific Design) as the fit on these doesn't work for all
women. A good bike shop with well informed staff will be able to fit her out with a bike that she
should love for years to come.

Bomba has a FAQ for new bike buying on his site somewhere, as does someone (?) else here. Look for a
post from Bomba (Jonathan Harris), and you'll find the site URL in his sig - check it out, it's
worth your while.

Hope I've been of some help.

Shaun aRe

Yes, sorry when I say "girl" I mean woman! Lol By the way, what's the main difference between a
ladies' bike and a normal/man's bike apart from the lowered main beam?

To be honest I would have thought that a man's bike could do with a lowered main beam too, since
I've come a cropper many times falling forwards where the terrain was such that my feet wouldn't
touch the ground. Bikes seem to be slowly headed that way design-wise nowadays though...

Thanks

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"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any recommendations for a mountainbike for a girl? She is 5ft8 and is looking to
spend about £500 (about $750).

That's a tall girl. Are you sure she isn't a woman? :-)

Quoted message said:

I'm thinking of something mainstream (she also lives in the UK so it's

hard

Quoted message said:

to get "exotic" bikes). Maybe something from Specialized / Kona / Marin.

I would really appreciate any feedback from girls since I am not familiar with ladies' bikes. I'm
not even sure whether a ladies' bike would be the most appropriate?

A "ladies" bike is not necessary. Have her go to a reputable LBS so she can get fitted properly
with a bike that suits her needs and skills.

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

mule <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Yes, sorry when I say "girl" I mean woman! Lol By the way, what's the main difference between a
ladies' bike and a normal/man's bike apart from the lowered main beam?

That is a 'toy' woman's bike, a throwback to the days women rode in skirts, and has nothing to do
with the protection of delicate 'bits'. The main difference is in the geometry, women and men
tend to have different relationships between leg and torso length, but there is no hard and fast
rule there.

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To be honest I would have thought that a man's bike could do with a lowered main beam too, since
I've come a cropper many times falling forwards where the terrain was such that my feet wouldn't
touch the ground. Bikes seem to be slowly headed that way design-wise nowadays though...

Yes, egzactly - men would benefit more from a low top tube than women. Myself, I got a small, low
top tubed frame (designed for jump/BSX/DS riding) and fitted a longer seatpost to accommodate my leg
length. I didn't do this to protect my bollox though, more so it was easier to bail in a mishap
situation without tangling legs and bike frame all the time.

Shaun aRe - HTH!

"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Yes, sorry when I say "girl" I mean woman! Lol By the way, what's the main difference between a
ladies' bike and a normal/man's bike apart from the lowered main beam?

Hardly anybody makes "mixte" frames anymore. Here's a little history lesson:

sheldonbrown.comgloss i l.htmlOpen ↗

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To be honest I would have thought that a man's bike could do with a lowered main beam too, since
I've come a cropper many times falling forwards where the terrain was such that my feet wouldn't
touch the ground. Bikes seem to be slowly headed that way design-wise nowadays though...

The sloping top tube design is now mainstream with a majority of bikes out there. And now some
more info:

sheldonbrown.comgloss e f.htmlOpen ↗

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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I'm thinking of something mainstream (she also lives in the UK so it's

hard

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to get "exotic" bikes). Maybe something from Specialized / Kona / Marin.

Specialized makes a full line of woman specific bikes. You could get her a Rockhopper, Stumpjumper,
or Epic made to fit women better. Mainstream and easy to find, and at a great price, too.

-John Morgan

"Epic"? Ok, thanks. I'll have another look at the Specialized website...

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"John Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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I'm thinking of something mainstream (she also lives in the UK so it's

hard

Quoted message said:

to get "exotic" bikes). Maybe something from Specialized / Kona / Marin.

Specialized makes a full line of woman specific bikes. You could get her a Rockhopper,
Stumpjumper, or Epic made to fit women better. Mainstream and easy to find, and at a great
price, too.

-John Morgan

Shaun, Carla,

Thanks for the information. The SheldonBrown page is particularly useful. Carla, if I may ask what
bike(s) do you have? Apart from getting a suitable size bike, do you have any particular
recommendations?

Our rides would consist of quite tough terrain (a mixture of mud, gravel, sand, stone and tree
roots) and not much pavement. Sometimes we would ride some easy routes too.

I was planning to say "go for a hardtail", since from what I've heard, full suspension bikes are
more complicated and sap more energy. I have an '01 Rockhopper, though it's quite banged up now.

Thanks,

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"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Yes, sorry when I say "girl" I mean woman! Lol By the way, what's the main difference between a
ladies' bike and a normal/man's bike apart from the lowered main beam?

Hardly anybody makes "mixte" frames anymore. Here's a little history lesson:

sheldonbrown.comgloss i l.htmlOpen ↗

Quoted message said:

To be honest I would have thought that a man's bike could do with a lowered main beam too, since
I've come a cropper many times falling forwards where the terrain was such that my feet wouldn't
touch the ground. Bikes seem to be slowly headed that way design-wise nowadays though...

The sloping top tube design is now mainstream with a majority of bikes out there. And now some
more info:

sheldonbrown.comgloss e f.htmlOpen ↗

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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I would really appreciate any feedback from girls since I am not familiar with ladies' bikes. I'm
not even sure whether a ladies' bike would be the most appropriate?

Anyhow, your best bet would be to go to a good bike shop, preferably one (or several) recommended
by someone you trust in these matters, and let her try as many as she can. Fit is foremost! Get a
bike that fits, not necessarily a WSD (Woman Specific Design) as the fit on these doesn't work for
all women. A good bike shop with well informed staff will be able to fit her out with a bike that
she should love for years to come.

what he said.

overall fit is way more important than "wsd" that's only good for women that fall within certain
typical parameters. I ride a regular 15" Kona (regular) frame. If she thinks she might like *real*
mtbiking, get a real mountain bike and not a comfort or hybrid. Important for her to choose it or
have final say especially on fit. If it's going to be a gift have it be a gift certificate to a bike
hsop and not a bike.

two FAQ's that might help bdbauer.tripod.comnewbikeOpen ↗
bombacommand.iwarp.comambfaq.htmOpen ↗

I know that the Santa Cruz and Titus sites have lots of articles on fit issues for women.

Penny S www.specialtyoutdoors.com/biking.htm

John Morgan said:

Specialized makes a full line of woman specific bikes. You could get her a Rockhopper,
Stumpjumper, or Epic made to fit women better. Mainstream and easy to find, and at a great
price, too.

-John Morgan

I'm way under whelmed with WSD... I think John's been reading too many magazines.

I'd be very careful about WSD bikes . They are designed for a porportionally typical or average
woman . Other options may be narrow handlebars and smaller grips, saddle. Many shops will point you
that way when it may not be the best geometry for you persoanlly. Many bike companies make limited
WSD bikes one or two options whereas with the full line there are many options.

OTOH, some women love them. But I did not.

Penny

Thanks Penny.

Unfortunately I can't be with her when she buys her bike so I'm trying to gather as much info
as possible.

I've mentioned WSD but have told her that I know next to nothing about them. Having said that I
don't think that bikes are MSD either. Painful top tube, knife-edge saddle, etc.

I always smile when someone says that the most comfortable saddle design would look like a toilet
seat! But it's TRUE, I say...

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John Morgan said:

Specialized makes a full line of woman specific bikes. You could get her a Rockhopper,
Stumpjumper, or Epic made to fit women better. Mainstream and easy to find, and at a great
price, too.

-John Morgan

I'm way under whelmed with WSD... I think John's been reading too many magazines.

I'd be very careful about WSD bikes . They are designed for a porportionally typical or average
woman . Other options may be narrow handlebars and smaller grips, saddle. Many shops will point
you that way when it may not be the best geometry for you persoanlly. Many bike companies make
limited WSD bikes one or two options whereas with the full line there are many options.

OTOH, some women love them. But I did not.

Penny

Hi Penny,

Thanks for the two links. They're brilliant! I'm going to email them to her now.

Thanks again

meandering mule

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bdbauer.tripod.comnewbikeOpen ↗

"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Shaun, Carla,

Thanks for the information. The SheldonBrown page is particularly useful. Carla, if I may ask what
bike(s) do you have?

One from Santa Cruz, a couple of them from Specialized, one from Nukeproof, one from Cannondale and
one from Bianchi.

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Apart from getting a suitable size bike, do you have any particular recommendations?

Have a look at Specialized bikes, not necessarily the woman's one's. They have a good range of bikes
for all skills.

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

Are you a professsional cyclist of some sort? That's a lot of bikes! How do you ride them all at the
same time? =o)

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"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Shaun, Carla,

Thanks for the information. The SheldonBrown page is particularly useful. Carla, if I may ask
what bike(s) do you have?

One from Santa Cruz, a couple of them from Specialized, one from Nukeproof, one from Cannondale
and one from Bianchi.

Quoted message said:

Apart from getting a suitable size bike, do you have any particular recommendations?

Have a look at Specialized bikes, not necessarily the woman's one's. They have a good range of
bikes for all skills.

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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Gawd, you ask a lot of questions :-). Guess you haven't been here long enough to know everybody.
May I suggest that you do a deja search and read some older posts, just so you can get the feel of
this newsgroup. I am not in Canada anymore. I am in New York. Yes, it still snows in Canada, even
though I am no longer there. Yes, it also snows in New York, the snow followed me here.

I was going to post a link for AMBar#1 and realized I don't have it anymore. Now THAT's where I'd
send someone to learn about am-b...

Penny S

And no, no one peed in my cornflakes *today*

mule said:

Thanks Penny.

Unfortunately I can't be with her when she buys her bike so I'm trying to gather as much info as
possible.

I've mentioned WSD but have told her that I know next to nothing about them. Having said that I
don't think that bikes are MSD either. Painful top tube, knife-edge saddle, etc.

I always smile when someone says that the most comfortable saddle design would look like a toilet
seat! But it's TRUE, I say...

If buying a man's bike, get the shop to change the saddle over for a woman's one. Women have
different shaped pelvic bones to men, and although some women get on ok with men's saddles, if she's
just starting out, she may appreciate a wider saddle.

An octopus eh? Bet you can't do this:

uk.news.yahoo.comdtzgj.htmlOpen ↗

Also, whose ass do you kick?

wobbling mule

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"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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Are you a professsional cyclist of some sort?

Professional, no. Poser, yes.

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That's a lot of bikes!

Its too many. Trying to get rid of some.

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How do you ride them all at the same time? =o)

Its easy, I am an octopus in real life.

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

"mule" <meanderingmule_at_nospam.breathe.com> wrote in message
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An octopus eh? Bet you can't do this:

uk.news.yahoo.comdtzgj.htmlOpen ↗

No, I can't, but I'm pretty good at crushing beer cans...

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Also, whose ass do you kick?

Anyone who deserves a good ass kicking...

- CA-G

Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

Thanks.

I might get a new saddle as well. Nothing wrong with my pelvic alignment but it's just too narrow!
Also the "beak" is rather pointy. I've hurt myself sometimes when I've had to "emergency brake" and
I come off of the saddle. However the bike's momentum was still moving it forwards, embedding the
point in a place it shouldn't be...

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mule said:

Thanks Penny.

Unfortunately I can't be with her when she buys her bike so I'm trying to gather as much info as
possible.

I've mentioned WSD but have told her that I know next to nothing about them. Having said that I
don't think that bikes are MSD either. Painful top tube, knife-edge saddle, etc.

I always smile when someone says that the most comfortable saddle design would look like a toilet
seat! But it's TRUE, I say...

If buying a man's bike, get the shop to change the saddle over for a woman's one. Women have
different shaped pelvic bones to men, and although some women get on ok with men's saddles, if
she's just starting out, she may appreciate a wider saddle.