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  1. Ever since I discovered the free-range Australian
    frozen ribeye steaks at Trader Joe's, I've been
    eating them almost every day. (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    On the previous day, move the steak from the
    freezer to the refrigerator.

    Early the next morning, heat up my big cast iron
    pot with lid over my last remaining functional
    stovetop burner, on high.

    After several minutes, put in the steak. When
    I take off the lid to put the steak in, there
    should be smoke. I do not add any oil or fat.

    After two minutes, flip. The steak should have
    nice browning on one side.

    After another two minutes, remove steak and
    set aside to rest. The steak should have nice
    browning on both sides. If it's going to be
    a hot day, I complete this part early enough
    that I can set up my fan and draw in the cool
    morning air before the sun comes up. I try
    to replace all of the smoky warm air in the
    house before the outside air begins to heat up.

    After resting, I usually tear off some of the
    meat and eat it warm. The meat should be cooked
    gray 2-3 millimeters depth from the surface,
    but very rare internally. The remaining meat
    goes into the refrigerator to be eaten the next
    day.

    After cutting off the outside fat and gristle,
    I slice the steak into strips and eat it with
    Trader Joe's Dijon mustard -- I could not find
    it on my last visit to TJ's. If necessary,
    I'll fall back on Maille or some other good
    brand.

  2. On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:54:45 -0700, Mark Thorson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    Quoted message said:

    Early the next morning, heat up my big cast iron
    pot with lid over my last remaining functional
    stovetop burner, on high.

    James Beard has instructions almost exactly as you have done it... The
    only thing different in his version, is to sprinkle a bit of salt on
    the hot cast iron pan. Kosher salt works well for this.
    I don't think he uses a lid though...

    Christine

  3. Mark Thorson said:

    Ever since I discovered the free-range Australian
    frozen ribeye steaks at Trader Joe's, I've been
    eating them almost every day. (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    On the previous day, move the steak from the
    freezer to the refrigerator.

    Early the next morning, heat up my big cast iron
    pot with lid over my last remaining functional
    stovetop burner, on high.

    After several minutes, put in the steak. When
    I take off the lid to put the steak in, there
    should be smoke. I do not add any oil or fat.

    After two minutes, flip. The steak should have
    nice browning on one side.

    After another two minutes, remove steak and
    set aside to rest. The steak should have nice
    browning on both sides. If it's going to be
    a hot day, I complete this part early enough
    that I can set up my fan and draw in the cool
    morning air before the sun comes up. I try
    to replace all of the smoky warm air in the
    house before the outside air begins to heat up.

    After resting, I usually tear off some of the
    meat and eat it warm. The meat should be cooked
    gray 2-3 millimeters depth from the surface,
    but very rare internally. The remaining meat
    goes into the refrigerator to be eaten the next
    day.

    After cutting off the outside fat and gristle,
    I slice the steak into strips and eat it with
    Trader Joe's Dijon mustard -- I could not find
    it on my last visit to TJ's. If necessary,
    I'll fall back on Maille or some other good
    brand.

    I'd trim off some of the outside fat before cooking, and render that
    for fat to fry in.

    --Bryan

  4. Christine Dabney said:

    On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:54:45 -0700, Mark Thorson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    Quoted message said:

    Early the next morning, heat up my big cast iron
    pot with lid over my last remaining functional
    stovetop burner, on high.

    James Beard has instructions almost exactly as you have done it... The
    only thing different in his version, is to sprinkle a bit of salt on
    the hot cast iron pan. Kosher salt works well for this.
    I don't think he uses a lid though...

    Christine

    Pressing some garlic into the steak is another option. I never use a lid.

    Jill

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark Thorson said:

    (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm more of a glutton than you are. The steak doesn't survive for more
    than twenty minutes.

    Quoted message said:

    After several minutes, put in the steak. When
    I take off the lid to put the steak in, there
    should be smoke. I do not add any oil or fat.

    I cook mine in an open cast iron skillet. I add salt to the bottom of a
    dry skillet so that about fifty percent appears white. Then I wait till
    the skillet is piping hot. My salt actually starts to change color. I
    suppose it's because I don't clean the skillet well enough.

    Quoted message said:

    After two minutes, flip. The steak should have
    nice browning on one side.

    Yep. Depending on the thickness of the steak. That'd be about three
    quarters of an inch to my cooking method. I'll go three minutes per side
    for an inch thick steak and toss the thing in a hot oven for even
    thicker ones for three or four minutes. Toss some butter and mushrooms
    in the hot pan after extracting the steak for an excellent topping.

    Quoted message said:

    After cutting off the outside fat and gristle,
    I slice the steak into strips and eat it with
    Trader Joe's Dijon mustard -- I could not find
    it on my last visit to TJ's. If necessary,
    I'll fall back on Maille or some other good
    brand.

    I like the fat. I don't like gristle. Just a bit of crisp fat on an
    occasional piece is just the ticket for me. I don't expect to make the
    national list for longevity anyway.

    leo

    --
    <http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>

  6. "Leonard Blaisdell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark Thorson said:

    (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm more of a glutton than you are. The steak doesn't survive for more
    than twenty minutes.

    Quoted message said:

    After several minutes, put in the steak. When
    I take off the lid to put the steak in, there
    should be smoke. I do not add any oil or fat.

    I cook mine in an open cast iron skillet. I add salt to the bottom of a
    dry skillet so that about fifty percent appears white. Then I wait till
    the skillet is piping hot. My salt actually starts to change color. I
    suppose it's because I don't clean the skillet well enough.

    Quoted message said:

    After two minutes, flip. The steak should have
    nice browning on one side.

    Yep. Depending on the thickness of the steak. That'd be about three
    quarters of an inch to my cooking method. I'll go three minutes per side
    for an inch thick steak and toss the thing in a hot oven for even
    thicker ones for three or four minutes. Toss some butter and mushrooms
    in the hot pan after extracting the steak for an excellent topping.

    Quoted message said:

    After cutting off the outside fat and gristle,
    I slice the steak into strips and eat it with
    Trader Joe's Dijon mustard -- I could not find
    it on my last visit to TJ's. If necessary,
    I'll fall back on Maille or some other good
    brand.

    I like the fat. I don't like gristle. Just a bit of crisp fat on an
    occasional piece is just the ticket for me. I don't expect to make the
    national list for longevity anyway.

    leo

    --
    <http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>

    Good fillet steak eat raw 🙂

  7. Leonard Blaisdell said...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark Thorson said:

    (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm more of a glutton than you are. The steak doesn't survive for more
    than twenty minutes.

    1st steak meal is knife 'n' forked with side dishes, etc.

    1st leftover steak meal is sliced and sandwiched on toast.

    2nd leftover steak (if any) meal is food processed into bits and added to
    scrambled eggs or in a cheese omelet.

    Andy

  8. One time on Usenet said:

    Ever since I discovered the free-range Australian
    frozen ribeye steaks at Trader Joe's, I've been
    eating them almost every day. (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    It must be nice to live close to a TJ's or Whole Foods -- I'd
    have to go all the way to Seattle to check them out. Maybe when
    the baseball (Little League) season is over.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    On the previous day, move the steak from the
    freezer to the refrigerator.

    Early the next morning, heat up my big cast iron
    pot with lid over my last remaining functional
    stovetop burner, on high.

    I only have one suggestion, and I apologize if someone has
    already posted it, but you definitely need some salt in
    that pan while it's heating.

    Quoted message said:

    After several minutes, put in the steak. When
    I take off the lid to put the steak in, there
    should be smoke. I do not add any oil or fat.

    <snip>

    Good! Any fat or oil would just ruin it...

    --
    Jani in WA

  9. You are definitely on the right track. Here's the method I've found
    that results in the closest you'll get to what you get at a true
    steakhouse.

    1. Allow the steak to come to/or close to room temperature before
    cooking.
    2. Preheat your oven to the highest temp it will go.
    3. Season Steak w/ salt and pepper
    4. Heat cast iron skillet to med high/high
    5. Sear the steak on one side in the hot skillet for 1-2 minutes. Flip
    and place in your super heated oven.
    6. Depends on thickness of course, but at 550, usually ends up being
    2-3 minutes at most for med-rare in the oven.
    7. Remove steak to warmed plate, top with high quality unsalted butter
    such as Plugra or Kerrygold (available at Tj's as well), tent with
    foil and allow juices to rest.
    8. Enjoy! This simple method is what I almost always use these days
    when cooking Prime grade or other high quality cuts. It's a simple
    preparation that allows the quality of the beef to shine through.

    Mark Thorson said:

    Ever since I discovered the free-range Australian
    frozen ribeye steaks at Trader Joe's, I've been
    eating them almost every day. (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    On the previous day, move the steak from the
    freezer to the refrigerator.

    Early the next morning, heat up my big cast iron
    pot with lid over my last remaining functional
    stovetop burner, on high.

    After several minutes, put in the steak. When
    I take off the lid to put the steak in, there
    should be smoke. I do not add any oil or fat.

    After two minutes, flip. The steak should have
    nice browning on one side.

    After another two minutes, remove steak and
    set aside to rest. The steak should have nice
    browning on both sides. If it's going to be
    a hot day, I complete this part early enough
    that I can set up my fan and draw in the cool
    morning air before the sun comes up. I try
    to replace all of the smoky warm air in the
    house before the outside air begins to heat up.

    After resting, I usually tear off some of the
    meat and eat it warm. The meat should be cooked
    gray 2-3 millimeters depth from the surface,
    but very rare internally. The remaining meat
    goes into the refrigerator to be eaten the next
    day.

    After cutting off the outside fat and gristle,
    I slice the steak into strips and eat it with
    Trader Joe's Dijon mustard -- I could not find
    it on my last visit to TJ's. If necessary,
    I'll fall back on Maille or some other good
    brand.

  10. Mark Thorson said:

    Ever since I discovered the free-range Australian
    frozen ribeye steaks at Trader Joe's, I've been
    eating them almost every day. (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    On the previous day, move the steak from the
    freezer to the refrigerator.

    Once frozen they're ruined to the point that no cooking technique can
    save them other than stew... frozen ribeye is good for beef pot pies.

    Sheldon

  11. Quoted message said:

    You are definitely on the right track. Here's the method I've found
    that results in the closest you'll get to what you get at a true
    steakhouse.

    1. Allow the steak to come to/or close to room temperature before
    cooking.
    2. Preheat your oven to the highest temp it will go.
    3. Season Steak w/ salt and pepper
    4. Heat cast iron skillet to med high/high
    5. Sear the steak on one side in the hot skillet for 1-2 minutes. Flip
    and place in your super heated oven.

    If one has not already done so try searing the steak in just a bit of
    grape seed oil, i did this by accident once, or rather, i wanted to fry
    a steak and the only oil i had on hand was grape seed oil, i was so
    pleased with the cooking of beef in grape seed oil i don't do it any
    other way now, if pan frying.

    Quoted message said:

    6. Depends on thickness of course, but at 550, usually ends up being
    2-3 minutes at most for med-rare in the oven.
    7. Remove steak to warmed plate, top with high quality unsalted butter
    such as Plugra or Kerrygold (available at Tj's as well), tent with
    foil and allow juices to rest.
    8. Enjoy! This simple method is what I almost always use these days
    when cooking Prime grade or other high quality cuts. It's a simple
    preparation that allows the quality of the beef to shine through.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    If one has not already done so try searing the steak in just a bit of
    grape seed oil, i did this by accident once, or rather, i wanted to fry
    a steak and the only oil i had on hand was grape seed oil, i was so
    pleased with the cooking of beef in grape seed oil i don't do it any
    other way now, if pan frying.

    I always use Grapeseed oil for steaks if I have it on hand. It has a
    higher smoke point than many oils so you can get it hotter. :-)

    I've been out for awhile so used peanut oil last time with just a little
    evoo, and it worked ok, but grapeseed really works better.

    I have to go to Austin to get it at the Greek Market for a decent price.
    If I get it at Phonecia, it's less expensive than Olive Oil.
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

  13. Joseph Littleshoes said:


    If one has not already done so try searing the steak in just a bit of
    grape seed oil, i did this by accident once, or rather, i wanted to fry
    a steak and the only oil i had on hand was grape seed oil, i was so
    pleased with the cooking of beef in grape seed oil i don't do it any
    other way now, if pan frying.

    I pan-fry in a cast iron pot without any oil,
    and I have no problems with sticking.

  14. Sheldon said:
    Mark Thorson said:

    Ever since I discovered the free-range Australian
    frozen ribeye steaks at Trader Joe's, I've been
    eating them almost every day. (Actually, I eat
    one steak over two days.)

    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions to
    improve my technique. I do the following:

    Quoted message said:

    On the previous day, move the steak from the
    freezer to the refrigerator.

    Once frozen they're ruined to the point that no cooking technique can
    save them other than stew... frozen ribeye is good for beef pot pies.

    Sheldon

    Nonsense. Good organicly grown beef steaks even if frozen are about
    twice as good as something one buys in a supermarket. Of course they
    might be even better unfrozen but it is hard for a small family to eat
    an entire beef in a couple of weeks.
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  15. Mark Thorson said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    If one has not already done so try searing the steak in just a bit of
    grape seed oil, i did this by accident once, or rather, i wanted to fry
    a steak and the only oil i had on hand was grape seed oil, i was so
    pleased with the cooking of beef in grape seed oil i don't do it any
    other way now, if pan frying.

    I pan-fry in a cast iron pot without any oil,
    and I have no problems with sticking.

    Its the flavour the grape seed oil adds to the beef i find fascinating,
    such a marked, pronounced difference. I will even marinate beef in grape
    seed oil that i am going to use in soup or stew.
    --
    JL

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Joseph Littleshoes said:
    Mark Thorson said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    If one has not already done so try searing the steak in just a bit of
    grape seed oil, i did this by accident once, or rather, i wanted to fry
    a steak and the only oil i had on hand was grape seed oil, i was so
    pleased with the cooking of beef in grape seed oil i don't do it any
    other way now, if pan frying.

    I pan-fry in a cast iron pot without any oil,
    and I have no problems with sticking.

    Its the flavour the grape seed oil adds to the beef i find fascinating,
    such a marked, pronounced difference. I will even marinate beef in grape
    seed oil that i am going to use in soup or stew.
    --
    JL

    Interesting idea... I often use olive oil for marinades.

    Grape seed oil has a light, slightly sweet flavor.
    I've used it in home made salad dressings, or added it to lightly
    steamed veggies to get the sesame seeds and herbages to coat better.
    --
    Peace, Om

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    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

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