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  1. Ooops, sorry (didn't note the spelling) - hope you find it anyway.

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    Renee said:


    "sf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Renee said:


    I found this one on msn this morning and if my grocer carries udon
    noodles I
    might consider making it. (Perhaps I can substitute spagetti?)

    Emeril's Cold Noodle Salad

    ~~~~~~~~

    Ranee... you live in the Bay Area don't you? The Safeway I go to
    keeps it in a refrigerator section near the Horchata.

    No, that must be another Re(a)nee. I'm down in Hurricane Alley (Florida).
    :-)

    I got your message too late and only checked out the dried pasta section of
    Albertson's yesterday morning. Of course it wasn't there. So I'll check the
    refrigerated section next trip. Occasionally I go into the Asian part of
    town -- loads of Oriental grocery stores -- so if I can't get locally I'll
    pick it up there. For another BBQ, another time.

    Renee (without the a)

  2. Renee said:


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    I'm making Indonesian-Style Beef Satay this weekend. Basically it's a
    recipe for grilling marinated skewered beef strips and rolling up in
    lettuce leaves along with some peanut sauce and other things, including
    rice noodles or rice. It definitely has an oriental flare. I'm at a loss
    what else to serve (or grill) with it. Anyone have some ideas?

    Thanks in advance,

    Renee

    Last night's BBQ was a success. Rolling up the beef satays and other stuff
    in lettuce leaves and chowing them down like burritos was actually a 'fun',
    interactive type of meal for everyone. I also grilled up some Hot and Spicy
    Chinese Chicken Wings that came out great -- crispy outside, tender inside
    and wonderfully flavorful. I think this one will become my signature (side
    or appetizer) dish at all my BBQs.

    Now I'm stuck with a bunch of left-over peanut sauce that I need to use. I'm
    going to grill pork tenderloin tonight so maybe that'll work as a dipping a
    sauce.


    You're making me hungry! Will you post your recipes for us?

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    Renee

    I love cucumber salads with just the cucs and perhaps some thinly
    sliced red onions with seasoned rice vinegar. In case you're not
    familiar, this is just rice vinegar with just a bit of sugar and salt
    so it's easy enough to do your own thing which I usually do as I can't
    see the sense in having both types in my cupboard. Mayhap a
    sprinkling of toasted sesame seeds at the very last minute. Delicious
    and cooling.

    I also love red bell peppers this way, sans the onions and sesame
    seeds. Just the peppers and vinegar. Simple. Tasty.

    TammyM in Sacramento, California

    I like my cukes that way too, Tammy! And always eaten with chopstix. :~)

    kili

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    "Renee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'm making Indonesian-Style Beef Satay this weekend. Basically it's a
    recipe for grilling marinated skewered beef strips and rolling up in
    lettuce leaves along with some peanut sauce and other things,


    including

    Quoted message said:

    rice noodles or rice. It definitely has an oriental flare. I'm at a


    loss

    Quoted message said:

    what else to serve (or grill) with it. Anyone have some ideas?

    Thanks in advance,

    Renee

    Last night's BBQ was a success. Rolling up the beef satays and other
    stuff
    in lettuce leaves and chowing them down like burritos was actually a
    'fun',
    interactive type of meal for everyone. I also grilled up some Hot and
    Spicy
    Chinese Chicken Wings that came out great -- crispy outside, tender
    inside
    and wonderfully flavorful. I think this one will become my signature
    (side
    or appetizer) dish at all my BBQs.

    Now I'm stuck with a bunch of left-over peanut sauce that I need to use.
    I'm
    going to grill pork tenderloin tonight so maybe that'll work as a
    dipping a
    sauce.


    You're making me hungry! Will you post your recipes for us?

    Sure! They're all from a cookbook I just bought for my new gas grill, "The
    New Gas Grill Gourmet - Great Grilled Food for Everyday Meals and Fantastic
    Feasts" by A. Cort Sinnes, 1996, 2005, The Harvard Common Press. To Sinnes
    credit, I have to say I love the book.

    Also, I keep saying 'BBQ' knowing full well that some diehard BBQ'er is
    bound to soon correct me -- It's really called a 'cook-out' since I'm not
    truly BBQing, but I find BBQ easier to type. ;-)

    First of all, the Beef Satay wrapped in lettuce leaves recipe I used was
    kind of combination of two recipes, "Indonesian-Style Beef Satay" and
    "Vietnamese-Style Sliced Steak in Lettuce Leaf Wraps". I followed the first
    one to a tee, and only changed it by using additional lettuce leaf fillings
    from the Vietnamese recipe, such as bean sprouts, shredded carrots, salted
    dry-roasted peanuts, and optional Red Rooster sauce.

    Also, a note about cooking both recipes below at the same time: I grilled my
    chicken wings first since they needed about 40 minutes, then placed the
    wings on the upper warming rack while I grilled my satay. So everything that
    came off the grill was hot at the same time.

    You'll definitely want to plan ahead for these recipes. For ingredients like
    hoisin sauce and maybe sake, a trip to the Asian market may be in order.
    Everything else can be easily found in your pantry or at your regular local
    market.

    Indonesian-Style Beef Satay

    Ingredients:

    One 2- to 3-pound London Broil, 1 to 1 1/2 inches thick

    ----- Peanut Sauce -----

    1/2 cup peanut butter (chunky or smooth)
    1 cup chicken or vegetable broth
    2 TBS soy sauce
    1 TBS brown sugar
    1 to 2 tsp Tabasco sauce

    ----- Ginger-Sake Marinade -----

    1/2 cup sake
    1/4 cup soy sauce
    3 TBS oil
    1/4 cup peeled and grated fresh ginger
    1/4 cup chopped green onions
    1 or 2 fresh chile peppers, to your taste, seeded and minced, or 1 to 2 tsp
    red pepper flakes

    12 bamboo skewers, soaked in water 30 minutes
    Iceberg lettuce leaves
    Cooked Asian rice noodles, chilled, or steamed white rice (I forgot to make
    this! But nobody noticed. :-) )

    Filling ingredients I put out on a large lettuce lined platter:

    Fresh bean sprouts
    Shredded carrots
    Chopped dry roasted peanuts
    Chopped fresh cilantro
    Chopped fresh mint

    I set out a bottle of Red Rooster sauce to those daring enough to use it

    Directions:

    Place peanut sauce ingredients in saucepan and whisk over medium-high heat
    until it thickens. Remove from heat and set aside until you reheat it at
    serving time.

    Combine marinade ingredients in Ziploc and place 1/4 inch sliced steak in
    it. Refrigerate for 30 minutes. (I had it sitting in marinade about 5 hours
    since I started in the morning.)

    Preheat grill with all burners on high for 10 minutes and lid down.

    During preheating, thread your skewers with meat, keeping meat as flat as
    possible.

    Turn all burners to medium, place skewers on grill, close lid, and cook for
    8 to 12 minutes, turning once.

    Meanwhile gently reheat the peanut sauce and transfer to serving bowl. Serve
    skewers and accompaniments family style (I set up a serving cart outside for
    buffet-style serving). To assemble, take one lettuce leaf, fill it partially
    with noodles or rice, add a couple of slices of grilled beef, add other
    fillings, drizzle with peanut sauce. Then take your plate back to table and
    fold leaf around filling like a tortilla.

    Next Recipe:

    Hot and Spicy Chinese Chicken Wings

    Ingredients:

    2 to 2 1/2 pounds chicken wings (I bought a 4 lb pack and found I had ample
    marinade for it)

    ----- Hot and Spicy Chinese Marinade -----

    1/2 cup soy sauce
    1/4 cup hoisin sauce
    1/4 cup white vinegar
    1/4 cup honey
    1/4 cup pineapple juice
    2 garlic cloves; pressed
    1/2 tsp red pepper flakes
    3 TBS oil

    Sesame seeds and chopped fresh cilantro for garnish (optional)

    Directions:

    Wash and dry chicken, trim off wing tips at joint.

    Combine marinade ingredients in Ziploc and add wings, turning to coat.
    Marinate in fridge 4 to 6 hours or overnight. (I started in morning and
    would occasionally turn over bag when I thought of it.)

    Preheat grill with all burners on high for 10 minutes and lid down.

    Meanwhile, drain marinade into small saucepan and boil for 2 minutes to kill
    bacteria so you can baste chicken with it.

    After preheating, turn off center burner and turn outside burners to medium.
    Place chicken over center burner, close lid and cook until skin is crispy
    and brown, 30 to 35 minutes (I needed 40 minutes or so you'll have to check
    the time on your own grill). Turn chicken once during cooking and baste with
    boiled marinade if desired.

    Transfer to serving plate and garnish with sesame seeds and cilantro if
    desired.

    Enjoy! I know I did!

  5. Renee said:

    Also, I keep saying 'BBQ' knowing full well that some diehard BBQ'er is
    bound to soon correct me -- It's really called a 'cook-out' since I'm not
    truly BBQing, but I find BBQ easier to type. ;-)

    I think if they want to complain, they should wait until we start
    calling it "Q".

    PS: Thanks for the recipes... I've bookmarked your post.

  6. kilikini said:


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    > Renee wrote:
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    Renee

    I love cucumber salads with just the cucs and perhaps some thinly
    sliced red onions with seasoned rice vinegar. In case you're not
    familiar, this is just rice vinegar with just a bit of sugar and salt
    so it's easy enough to do your own thing which I usually do as I can't
    see the sense in having both types in my cupboard. Mayhap a
    sprinkling of toasted sesame seeds at the very last minute. Delicious
    and cooling.

    I also love red bell peppers this way, sans the onions and sesame
    seeds. Just the peppers and vinegar. Simple. Tasty.

    TammyM in Sacramento, California

    I like my cukes that way too, Tammy! And always eaten with chopstix. :~)

    kili

    I've never been able to manage chopsticks. I once sat between a Texan
    and an Irishman who tried to teach me how to use chopsticks in a
    Chinese restaurant in Berkeley. Sounds like a joke, but the only
    punchline is that I still can't use em. Not that Tom and Rich didn't
    try, bless their bones.

    TammyM

  7. Renee said:

    I found this one on msn this morning and if my grocer carries udon noodles I
    might consider making it. (Perhaps I can substitute spagetti?)

    Emeril's Cold Noodle Salad

    Spaghetti works fine in noodle salad, I find, but I like the texture of
    udon, so I hope you can find it.

    serene

  8. aem said:
    Joseph Littleshoes said:

    [snip]
    ....BTW do
    you have an opinion on 'annato'? I think the taste is 'funky' at


    best,

    Quoted message said:

    kind of musty and stale but then maybe i have not got good 'annato'


    in

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    the past. I am under the impression it is used primarily for it


    ability

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    to produce a colour rather than a flavour but i have heard of people


    who

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    claim to perceive and like its flavour.

    Here's something you might try. Put 2 TB annato seeds (aka achiote)
    and 1/4 cup olive oil in a small pan. Simmer for a few minutes,
    strain
    the seeds out and discard. Now you have annato-flavored oil. Use
    this
    to make a chicken and rice dish or a paella-type dish. The oil
    imparts
    both color and a subtle flavor. -aem

    I will give it a try but in so far as i can taste the annato at all i
    don't care for it. Though i wonder about fresh vs. older seeds. I
    definitely wont be using the ground annato powder for anything other
    than adding to my paint box for its colour.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

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    BTW do
    you have an opinion on 'annato'? I think the taste is 'funky' at best,
    kind of musty and stale but then maybe i have not got good 'annato' in
    the past. I am under the impression it is used primarily for it ability
    to produce a colour rather than a flavour but i have heard of people who
    claim to perceive and like its flavour.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

    Well, I've never had it but based upon what you have posted, I think I'll
    make do without it.

    :-)

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    Renee said:

    ----- Ginger-Sake Marinade -----

    1/2 cup sake
    1/4 cup soy sauce
    3 TBS oil

    It is a personal preference on my part but if you use equal parts of soy
    sauce, sake and sesame oil you will have a really delicious marinade.
    It can also be used as a sauce, for dipping or to sauté with.

    Ordinarily i use canola oil for just about every thing, but this is one
    exception i will make, also you inclusion of the various other
    ingredients listed below are an excellent addition to it but i was a bit
    surprised you did not include garlic.

    I have tried substituting Chinese Shao Xing rice wine for the sake but
    prefer the sake.

    Chopped fresh lemon grass is a good addition - subtitution for the green
    onion also.
    ---
    JL

    Soy, sake and sesame -- I'll like the sound of that, I think I'll try it. I
    bought a very small bottle of sake and still have some left.

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    Dee Randall said:

    "Joseph Littleshoes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Renee wrote:

    > ----- Ginger-Sake Marinade -----
    >
    > 1/2 cup sake
    > 1/4 cup soy sauce
    > 3 TBS oil

    It is a personal preference on my part but if you use equal parts of


    soy

    Quoted message said:

    sauce, sake and sesame oil you will have a really delicious


    marinade.

    Quoted message said:

    It can also be used as a sauce, for dipping or to sauté with.

    Ordinarily i use canola oil for just about every thing, but this is


    one

    Quoted message said:

    exception i will make, also you inclusion of the various other
    ingredients listed below are an excellent addition to it but i was a


    bit

    Quoted message said:

    surprised you did not include garlic.

    I have tried substituting Shao Xing rice wine for the sake but
    prefer the sake.

    Chopped fresh lemon grass is a good addition - subtitution for the


    green

    Quoted message said:

    onion also.
    ---
    JL

    > 1/4 cup peeled and grated fresh ginger
    > 1/4 cup chopped green onions
    > 1 or 2 fresh chile peppers, to your taste, seeded and minced, or 1


    to

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    > 2 tsp
    > red pepper flakes.

    ---.
    Joseph Littleshoes

    I'm more likely to have Chinese Shao Xing rice wine at my house
    than
    Sake. Sake doesn't last very long after opened, does it?

    Yes it does, i have kept it for a long as 6 months without any
    deleterious effects.

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    I know, particularly if someone wants to drink it up! But, seriously,
    how
    long can one keep a sake that one would drink? The small bottles are
    not
    good enough for cooking, IMO;

    Perhaps it is the brand, but i often buy a small 1/2 bottle rather than
    a regular European sized bottle.

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    just like wine -- if you won't drink it, why
    cook with it.

    I agree, but with sake, unlike the Shao Xing rice wine, only the better
    stuff is generally imported to Europe or America, cant say about Africa,
    Australia might get cheap sake dumped on its market but the demand is
    relatively small in Euro - American cultures to the degree that only the
    better stuff is generally imported. But again, i think the American
    "Gallo" brand of wines are acceptable for cooking, i have a few "grand
    vins" recipes but im not spending several hundred dollars on a vintage
    bottle of Chateaux Yquem to cook with. I will buy
    it to drink but not to cook, the difference, in that it is perceivable
    at all, is negligible IMO.
    ---
    JL

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    Geez, I found out the hard way the other day. I added 3/4 cup of wine
    that
    we were drinking (that we had previously drank with acceptance), but
    it
    didn't seem up to par. I was making an Italian dinner, so the recipe
    I used
    for cauliflower included red wine. Geez, we both agreed red that wine
    AND
    cauliflower don't mix, no matter how good the wine might be-- yuk!
    -horrible
    color besides!

    Dee Dee

    Should I be refrigerating my open bottle of sake?

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    Renee said:

    Now I'm stuck with a bunch of left-over peanut sauce that I need to use.
    I'm going to grill pork tenderloin tonight so maybe that'll work as a
    dipping a sauce.

    If you want something different, you could probably make a great salad
    dressing out of the leftover peanut sauce. The Moosewood Cookbook's Thai
    salad is one of my favorites, and its dressing is almost exactly like
    peanut
    sauce. Here's the recipe, which you can adapt (if you so choose) to the
    peanut sauce you have:

    Moosewood Thai Salad

    DRESSING
    6 Tbs good peanut butter
    1 cup boiling water
    4 Tbs cider vinegar
    1 Tbs sugar or honey
    1 to 1 1/2 tsp salt
    3 to 4 medium cloves garlic, minced
    crushed red pepper or cayenne, to taste
    2 tsp lemon or lime juice

    Place the peanut butter in a small bowl. Whisk in the water, and beat well
    until combined. Stir in remaining ingredients.

    THE REST
    1 medium head crisp lettuce (Romaine is good)
    1 medium carrot, shredded or thinly sliced
    1 small bell pepper, in thin strips
    1 small cucumber, peeled, seeded, and sliced
    2 medium-sized ripe tomatoes, in bite-sized chunks
    2 medium (fist-sized) potatoes, boiled and sliced
    4 to 6 hard-boiled eggs, cut in wedges
    3 cakes tofu, plain or fried, diced
    a small handful each (if available): minced fresh cilantro, mint, and
    basil
    optional: a handful of mung bean sprouts
    *FUN OPTION* potato chips instead of, or in addition to, the boiled potato
    slices.
    Squeezable wedges of lemon or lime, for garnish

    Pile up everything in a provocative yet compelling arrangement. Drizzle
    the
    dressing on top.

    BOB'S NOTES: I add briefly-boiled green beans, asparagus, or any other
    vegetable that strikes my fancy. You can use finely-shredded Napa or
    Savoy
    cabbage instead of the lettuce, if you like.

    Bob

    Thanks, Bob. Even without using my left-over sauce on this, this recipe
    looks like a good one to try in the future with Asian cuisine. But we've
    never tried tofu before so I'm not sure how that's going to go over.

  13. Renee said:

    "jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Renee said:

    I'm making Indonesian-Style Beef Satay this weekend. Basically it's a
    recipe for grilling marinated skewered beef strips and rolling up in
    lettuce leaves along with some peanut sauce and other things, including
    rice noodles or rice. It definitely has an oriental flare. I'm at a loss
    what else to serve (or grill) with it. Anyone have some ideas?

    Thanks in advance,

    Renee

    green beans
    rice
    nasi rice
    cucumber salad
    atjar (sweet and sour veg, very easy to make)

    I like the sound of a cool cucumber salad at a BBQ on a hot summer day. :-)

    Do you have a favorite recipe for it? (Though I can probably find one with
    an Internet search.)

    I did a quick search on nasi rice and didn't find anything exactly called
    that. Is it a type of fried rice?

    Renee


    Hello,

    Nasi is fried rice, Indonesian style. I ususally buy a packet of mixes
    pices to put in the rice, they are easily available here. Dunno what
    spices re in there.

    I never actually make atjat myself, or cucumber salads, but I have a
    freind who does. Atjar is teh gerenic word for any semi-pickled sweet
    and sour veg in Indonesia, afaik. You cut your not-too-soft veg into
    pieces. Then pour on a mixture of water, vinegar, sugar and some salt
    (some people add curry powder, too), which have been brought to the boi
    togerhter. let marinate or serve right away. I'm not sure how long it
    woudl keep, i've never seen any leftovers 🙂

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