Sugar question...

Thanks LassChance!

Thanks LassChance!

Thanks LassChance!

You can't eat vegetables and low-carb fruits without having some sugar. It
occurs naturally in most growing things. In cream cheese it is lactose from
the milk. Carbs (except for fiber) are either some kind of sugar or some
kind of starch, which the body converts to sugar. The sugar listed in the
nutrients is not the one to watch out for as long as total carbs are within
your daily allotment, added sugar (or HFCS-high fructose corn syrup-even
worse) in the ingredients is what you should watch out for because it shows
up in an amazing array of foods, many of which you would not expect to have
it.

In news:[email hidden],
Jake <[email hidden]> stated
| Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
| prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
| any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that
| the carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I
| only ask because there are a few approved food items for the
| induction phase that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb
| count. One of those is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of
| sugars from Carbs listed on the nutritional label of every cream
| cheese that I've looked at. Also, every Atkins brand shake has
| sugars from Carbs listed as well but those are recommended during
| induction as well. I am just confused about this so any help would
| be greatly appreciated!!!
|
| Thanks!!

You can't eat vegetables and low-carb fruits without having some sugar. It
occurs naturally in most growing things. In cream cheese it is lactose from
the milk. Carbs (except for fiber) are either some kind of sugar or some
kind of starch, which the body converts to sugar. The sugar listed in the
nutrients is not the one to watch out for as long as total carbs are within
your daily allotment, added sugar (or HFCS-high fructose corn syrup-even
worse) in the ingredients is what you should watch out for because it shows
up in an amazing array of foods, many of which you would not expect to have
it.

In news:[email hidden],
Jake <[email hidden]> stated
| Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
| prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
| any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that
| the carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I
| only ask because there are a few approved food items for the
| induction phase that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb
| count. One of those is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of
| sugars from Carbs listed on the nutritional label of every cream
| cheese that I've looked at. Also, every Atkins brand shake has
| sugars from Carbs listed as well but those are recommended during
| induction as well. I am just confused about this so any help would
| be greatly appreciated!!!
|
| Thanks!!

You can't eat vegetables and low-carb fruits without having some sugar. It
occurs naturally in most growing things. In cream cheese it is lactose from
the milk. Carbs (except for fiber) are either some kind of sugar or some
kind of starch, which the body converts to sugar. The sugar listed in the
nutrients is not the one to watch out for as long as total carbs are within
your daily allotment, added sugar (or HFCS-high fructose corn syrup-even
worse) in the ingredients is what you should watch out for because it shows
up in an amazing array of foods, many of which you would not expect to have
it.

In news:[email hidden],
Jake <[email hidden]> stated
| Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
| prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
| any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that
| the carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I
| only ask because there are a few approved food items for the
| induction phase that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb
| count. One of those is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of
| sugars from Carbs listed on the nutritional label of every cream
| cheese that I've looked at. Also, every Atkins brand shake has
| sugars from Carbs listed as well but those are recommended during
| induction as well. I am just confused about this so any help would
| be greatly appreciated!!!
|
| Thanks!!

You can't eat vegetables and low-carb fruits without having some sugar. It
occurs naturally in most growing things. In cream cheese it is lactose from
the milk. Carbs (except for fiber) are either some kind of sugar or some
kind of starch, which the body converts to sugar. The sugar listed in the
nutrients is not the one to watch out for as long as total carbs are within
your daily allotment, added sugar (or HFCS-high fructose corn syrup-even
worse) in the ingredients is what you should watch out for because it shows
up in an amazing array of foods, many of which you would not expect to have
it.

In news:[email hidden],
Jake <[email hidden]> stated
| Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
| prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
| any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that
| the carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I
| only ask because there are a few approved food items for the
| induction phase that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb
| count. One of those is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of
| sugars from Carbs listed on the nutritional label of every cream
| cheese that I've looked at. Also, every Atkins brand shake has
| sugars from Carbs listed as well but those are recommended during
| induction as well. I am just confused about this so any help would
| be greatly appreciated!!!
|
| Thanks!!

You can't eat vegetables and low-carb fruits without having some sugar. It
occurs naturally in most growing things. In cream cheese it is lactose from
the milk. Carbs (except for fiber) are either some kind of sugar or some
kind of starch, which the body converts to sugar. The sugar listed in the
nutrients is not the one to watch out for as long as total carbs are within
your daily allotment, added sugar (or HFCS-high fructose corn syrup-even
worse) in the ingredients is what you should watch out for because it shows
up in an amazing array of foods, many of which you would not expect to have
it.

In news:[email hidden],
Jake <[email hidden]> stated
| Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
| prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
| any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that
| the carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I
| only ask because there are a few approved food items for the
| induction phase that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb
| count. One of those is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of
| sugars from Carbs listed on the nutritional label of every cream
| cheese that I've looked at. Also, every Atkins brand shake has
| sugars from Carbs listed as well but those are recommended during
| induction as well. I am just confused about this so any help would
| be greatly appreciated!!!
|
| Thanks!!

Jake,

Stick to the list of foods on the approved list for Induction, and you'll be
all right.

There are a number of foods on the induction list (such as cream cheese and
many of the vegetables) that have small amounts of naturally-occurring
sugars such as lactose and fructose.

For example, you can have either three cups of salad per day OR two cups of
salad plus one cup of other Induction-approved veggies. If you eat those
veggies (which you should!) you will ingest *trace* amounts of sugar. That's
fine; it's not enough to knock you out of ketosis or cause any problems
whatsoever. And the nutrients and fiber from those veggies is really
important to your health.

WRT cream cheese (and other allowed dairy products), I'd check the
ingredients list to be sure it doesn't have any added sugars, starches, or
fillers and try to find the brand with the lowest carb count.

But pay attention to the quantity limits Dr. Atkins placed on *some* of the
Induction foods. Read the "Rules of Induction" in his books or on his
website. If you adhere strictly to the rules, you should have no problem
staying under 20 grams of carbs per day.

I know that the Atkins website and the books released after Dr. Atkins'
death say you can have the shakes, bars, and some other "low-carb" products
in the list of approved foods for Induction. But I (and lots of other people
on this group) would advise you to avoid them during Induction anyway.

Lots of us eat those "low-carb" foods without a problem. Others of us find
that they trigger hunger, cravings, or worse, that we seem to have bigger
blood sugar spikes after eating them than the "net carbs" listed on the
label would indicate. For us, that "net carbs" labeling is nothing more
than a scam. (The only thing I personally subtract from the total carb count
is fiber.)

I really recommend that you stick to meats/poultry/fish, approved dairy
foods, and approved veggies for those first two weeks!
IMO, avoid those "low carb" products during Induction, then introduce them
*slowly* afterwards, paying attention to how you react to them.

I also recommend that you learn to spot all the ways that food manufacturers
disguise sugars, starches, and fillers on the ingredients list, so you can
avoid foods that contain them. The group's FAQ has lots of information on
this.

Preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs, pepperoni, and luncheon
meats often have added sugar and some brands have a lot of starchy fillers.
Some health food stores carry sugar-free bacon, but you probably won't find
it in most supermarkets. Lots of us just shop for the brands with the least
sugar/carbs, making sure we count the carbs in our daily carb limit. Others
of us avoid these foods or go to the effort of finding the sugar-free ones.

Another potential pitfall for the unwary is "carb-free" or "zero carbs per
serving" foods. Other than pure fats (such as butter or oil) and unprocessed
meat/poultry/fish, pretty much everything has *some* carbs. Even eggs have
about 0.5g carbs per large egg, and cheeses have 0.5g or more (depending on
the type) per ounce. You can eat these foods, just be sure you account for
the carbs.

Be aware that food manufacturers are legally allowed to round the carbs
*down* and some of them play games with serving sizes on their labels. If a
food has 0.4 grams of carbs per serving, the label can legally say "0
grams". If it has up to 0.9g/serving, the label can say "less than 1 gram".

Watch out for things like bacon, cream, coffee, tea, diet soft drinks,
artificial sweeteners (except for liquids, they contain fillers), sugar-free
jello, condiments, salad dressings, etc. And for some foods (for example,
the cream in your coffee - not to mention the coffee itself!), people
frequently consume more than one "serving" at a time. If you have a lot of
those "carb-free" foods each day, all those fractions of a carb will add up,
and your carb intake may be several grams higher than you think.

You might want to leave yourself a few grams of room under your 20g
allotment for this sort of thing. Other people follow the "when in doubt,
count it as 0.5g carbs" principle. Others of us or go to the USDA website to
find out the *real* carb counts of foods and add them up precisely. Whatever
works for you.

After Induction, when you bring your carb counts up, you probably won't have
to worry so much about fractions of a carb here and there.

Good luck,
Laura

"Jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!!

Jake,

Stick to the list of foods on the approved list for Induction, and you'll be
all right.

There are a number of foods on the induction list (such as cream cheese and
many of the vegetables) that have small amounts of naturally-occurring
sugars such as lactose and fructose.

For example, you can have either three cups of salad per day OR two cups of
salad plus one cup of other Induction-approved veggies. If you eat those
veggies (which you should!) you will ingest *trace* amounts of sugar. That's
fine; it's not enough to knock you out of ketosis or cause any problems
whatsoever. And the nutrients and fiber from those veggies is really
important to your health.

WRT cream cheese (and other allowed dairy products), I'd check the
ingredients list to be sure it doesn't have any added sugars, starches, or
fillers and try to find the brand with the lowest carb count.

But pay attention to the quantity limits Dr. Atkins placed on *some* of the
Induction foods. Read the "Rules of Induction" in his books or on his
website. If you adhere strictly to the rules, you should have no problem
staying under 20 grams of carbs per day.

I know that the Atkins website and the books released after Dr. Atkins'
death say you can have the shakes, bars, and some other "low-carb" products
in the list of approved foods for Induction. But I (and lots of other people
on this group) would advise you to avoid them during Induction anyway.

Lots of us eat those "low-carb" foods without a problem. Others of us find
that they trigger hunger, cravings, or worse, that we seem to have bigger
blood sugar spikes after eating them than the "net carbs" listed on the
label would indicate. For us, that "net carbs" labeling is nothing more
than a scam. (The only thing I personally subtract from the total carb count
is fiber.)

I really recommend that you stick to meats/poultry/fish, approved dairy
foods, and approved veggies for those first two weeks!
IMO, avoid those "low carb" products during Induction, then introduce them
*slowly* afterwards, paying attention to how you react to them.

I also recommend that you learn to spot all the ways that food manufacturers
disguise sugars, starches, and fillers on the ingredients list, so you can
avoid foods that contain them. The group's FAQ has lots of information on
this.

Preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs, pepperoni, and luncheon
meats often have added sugar and some brands have a lot of starchy fillers.
Some health food stores carry sugar-free bacon, but you probably won't find
it in most supermarkets. Lots of us just shop for the brands with the least
sugar/carbs, making sure we count the carbs in our daily carb limit. Others
of us avoid these foods or go to the effort of finding the sugar-free ones.

Another potential pitfall for the unwary is "carb-free" or "zero carbs per
serving" foods. Other than pure fats (such as butter or oil) and unprocessed
meat/poultry/fish, pretty much everything has *some* carbs. Even eggs have
about 0.5g carbs per large egg, and cheeses have 0.5g or more (depending on
the type) per ounce. You can eat these foods, just be sure you account for
the carbs.

Be aware that food manufacturers are legally allowed to round the carbs
*down* and some of them play games with serving sizes on their labels. If a
food has 0.4 grams of carbs per serving, the label can legally say "0
grams". If it has up to 0.9g/serving, the label can say "less than 1 gram".

Watch out for things like bacon, cream, coffee, tea, diet soft drinks,
artificial sweeteners (except for liquids, they contain fillers), sugar-free
jello, condiments, salad dressings, etc. And for some foods (for example,
the cream in your coffee - not to mention the coffee itself!), people
frequently consume more than one "serving" at a time. If you have a lot of
those "carb-free" foods each day, all those fractions of a carb will add up,
and your carb intake may be several grams higher than you think.

You might want to leave yourself a few grams of room under your 20g
allotment for this sort of thing. Other people follow the "when in doubt,
count it as 0.5g carbs" principle. Others of us or go to the USDA website to
find out the *real* carb counts of foods and add them up precisely. Whatever
works for you.

After Induction, when you bring your carb counts up, you probably won't have
to worry so much about fractions of a carb here and there.

Good luck,
Laura

"Jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!!

Jake,

Stick to the list of foods on the approved list for Induction, and you'll be
all right.

There are a number of foods on the induction list (such as cream cheese and
many of the vegetables) that have small amounts of naturally-occurring
sugars such as lactose and fructose.

For example, you can have either three cups of salad per day OR two cups of
salad plus one cup of other Induction-approved veggies. If you eat those
veggies (which you should!) you will ingest *trace* amounts of sugar. That's
fine; it's not enough to knock you out of ketosis or cause any problems
whatsoever. And the nutrients and fiber from those veggies is really
important to your health.

WRT cream cheese (and other allowed dairy products), I'd check the
ingredients list to be sure it doesn't have any added sugars, starches, or
fillers and try to find the brand with the lowest carb count.

But pay attention to the quantity limits Dr. Atkins placed on *some* of the
Induction foods. Read the "Rules of Induction" in his books or on his
website. If you adhere strictly to the rules, you should have no problem
staying under 20 grams of carbs per day.

I know that the Atkins website and the books released after Dr. Atkins'
death say you can have the shakes, bars, and some other "low-carb" products
in the list of approved foods for Induction. But I (and lots of other people
on this group) would advise you to avoid them during Induction anyway.

Lots of us eat those "low-carb" foods without a problem. Others of us find
that they trigger hunger, cravings, or worse, that we seem to have bigger
blood sugar spikes after eating them than the "net carbs" listed on the
label would indicate. For us, that "net carbs" labeling is nothing more
than a scam. (The only thing I personally subtract from the total carb count
is fiber.)

I really recommend that you stick to meats/poultry/fish, approved dairy
foods, and approved veggies for those first two weeks!
IMO, avoid those "low carb" products during Induction, then introduce them
*slowly* afterwards, paying attention to how you react to them.

I also recommend that you learn to spot all the ways that food manufacturers
disguise sugars, starches, and fillers on the ingredients list, so you can
avoid foods that contain them. The group's FAQ has lots of information on
this.

Preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs, pepperoni, and luncheon
meats often have added sugar and some brands have a lot of starchy fillers.
Some health food stores carry sugar-free bacon, but you probably won't find
it in most supermarkets. Lots of us just shop for the brands with the least
sugar/carbs, making sure we count the carbs in our daily carb limit. Others
of us avoid these foods or go to the effort of finding the sugar-free ones.

Another potential pitfall for the unwary is "carb-free" or "zero carbs per
serving" foods. Other than pure fats (such as butter or oil) and unprocessed
meat/poultry/fish, pretty much everything has *some* carbs. Even eggs have
about 0.5g carbs per large egg, and cheeses have 0.5g or more (depending on
the type) per ounce. You can eat these foods, just be sure you account for
the carbs.

Be aware that food manufacturers are legally allowed to round the carbs
*down* and some of them play games with serving sizes on their labels. If a
food has 0.4 grams of carbs per serving, the label can legally say "0
grams". If it has up to 0.9g/serving, the label can say "less than 1 gram".

Watch out for things like bacon, cream, coffee, tea, diet soft drinks,
artificial sweeteners (except for liquids, they contain fillers), sugar-free
jello, condiments, salad dressings, etc. And for some foods (for example,
the cream in your coffee - not to mention the coffee itself!), people
frequently consume more than one "serving" at a time. If you have a lot of
those "carb-free" foods each day, all those fractions of a carb will add up,
and your carb intake may be several grams higher than you think.

You might want to leave yourself a few grams of room under your 20g
allotment for this sort of thing. Other people follow the "when in doubt,
count it as 0.5g carbs" principle. Others of us or go to the USDA website to
find out the *real* carb counts of foods and add them up precisely. Whatever
works for you.

After Induction, when you bring your carb counts up, you probably won't have
to worry so much about fractions of a carb here and there.

Good luck,
Laura

"Jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!!

Jake,

Stick to the list of foods on the approved list for Induction, and you'll be
all right.

There are a number of foods on the induction list (such as cream cheese and
many of the vegetables) that have small amounts of naturally-occurring
sugars such as lactose and fructose.

For example, you can have either three cups of salad per day OR two cups of
salad plus one cup of other Induction-approved veggies. If you eat those
veggies (which you should!) you will ingest *trace* amounts of sugar. That's
fine; it's not enough to knock you out of ketosis or cause any problems
whatsoever. And the nutrients and fiber from those veggies is really
important to your health.

WRT cream cheese (and other allowed dairy products), I'd check the
ingredients list to be sure it doesn't have any added sugars, starches, or
fillers and try to find the brand with the lowest carb count.

But pay attention to the quantity limits Dr. Atkins placed on *some* of the
Induction foods. Read the "Rules of Induction" in his books or on his
website. If you adhere strictly to the rules, you should have no problem
staying under 20 grams of carbs per day.

I know that the Atkins website and the books released after Dr. Atkins'
death say you can have the shakes, bars, and some other "low-carb" products
in the list of approved foods for Induction. But I (and lots of other people
on this group) would advise you to avoid them during Induction anyway.

Lots of us eat those "low-carb" foods without a problem. Others of us find
that they trigger hunger, cravings, or worse, that we seem to have bigger
blood sugar spikes after eating them than the "net carbs" listed on the
label would indicate. For us, that "net carbs" labeling is nothing more
than a scam. (The only thing I personally subtract from the total carb count
is fiber.)

I really recommend that you stick to meats/poultry/fish, approved dairy
foods, and approved veggies for those first two weeks!
IMO, avoid those "low carb" products during Induction, then introduce them
*slowly* afterwards, paying attention to how you react to them.

I also recommend that you learn to spot all the ways that food manufacturers
disguise sugars, starches, and fillers on the ingredients list, so you can
avoid foods that contain them. The group's FAQ has lots of information on
this.

Preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs, pepperoni, and luncheon
meats often have added sugar and some brands have a lot of starchy fillers.
Some health food stores carry sugar-free bacon, but you probably won't find
it in most supermarkets. Lots of us just shop for the brands with the least
sugar/carbs, making sure we count the carbs in our daily carb limit. Others
of us avoid these foods or go to the effort of finding the sugar-free ones.

Another potential pitfall for the unwary is "carb-free" or "zero carbs per
serving" foods. Other than pure fats (such as butter or oil) and unprocessed
meat/poultry/fish, pretty much everything has *some* carbs. Even eggs have
about 0.5g carbs per large egg, and cheeses have 0.5g or more (depending on
the type) per ounce. You can eat these foods, just be sure you account for
the carbs.

Be aware that food manufacturers are legally allowed to round the carbs
*down* and some of them play games with serving sizes on their labels. If a
food has 0.4 grams of carbs per serving, the label can legally say "0
grams". If it has up to 0.9g/serving, the label can say "less than 1 gram".

Watch out for things like bacon, cream, coffee, tea, diet soft drinks,
artificial sweeteners (except for liquids, they contain fillers), sugar-free
jello, condiments, salad dressings, etc. And for some foods (for example,
the cream in your coffee - not to mention the coffee itself!), people
frequently consume more than one "serving" at a time. If you have a lot of
those "carb-free" foods each day, all those fractions of a carb will add up,
and your carb intake may be several grams higher than you think.

You might want to leave yourself a few grams of room under your 20g
allotment for this sort of thing. Other people follow the "when in doubt,
count it as 0.5g carbs" principle. Others of us or go to the USDA website to
find out the *real* carb counts of foods and add them up precisely. Whatever
works for you.

After Induction, when you bring your carb counts up, you probably won't have
to worry so much about fractions of a carb here and there.

Good luck,
Laura

"Jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!!

Jake,

Stick to the list of foods on the approved list for Induction, and you'll be
all right.

There are a number of foods on the induction list (such as cream cheese and
many of the vegetables) that have small amounts of naturally-occurring
sugars such as lactose and fructose.

For example, you can have either three cups of salad per day OR two cups of
salad plus one cup of other Induction-approved veggies. If you eat those
veggies (which you should!) you will ingest *trace* amounts of sugar. That's
fine; it's not enough to knock you out of ketosis or cause any problems
whatsoever. And the nutrients and fiber from those veggies is really
important to your health.

WRT cream cheese (and other allowed dairy products), I'd check the
ingredients list to be sure it doesn't have any added sugars, starches, or
fillers and try to find the brand with the lowest carb count.

But pay attention to the quantity limits Dr. Atkins placed on *some* of the
Induction foods. Read the "Rules of Induction" in his books or on his
website. If you adhere strictly to the rules, you should have no problem
staying under 20 grams of carbs per day.

I know that the Atkins website and the books released after Dr. Atkins'
death say you can have the shakes, bars, and some other "low-carb" products
in the list of approved foods for Induction. But I (and lots of other people
on this group) would advise you to avoid them during Induction anyway.

Lots of us eat those "low-carb" foods without a problem. Others of us find
that they trigger hunger, cravings, or worse, that we seem to have bigger
blood sugar spikes after eating them than the "net carbs" listed on the
label would indicate. For us, that "net carbs" labeling is nothing more
than a scam. (The only thing I personally subtract from the total carb count
is fiber.)

I really recommend that you stick to meats/poultry/fish, approved dairy
foods, and approved veggies for those first two weeks!
IMO, avoid those "low carb" products during Induction, then introduce them
*slowly* afterwards, paying attention to how you react to them.

I also recommend that you learn to spot all the ways that food manufacturers
disguise sugars, starches, and fillers on the ingredients list, so you can
avoid foods that contain them. The group's FAQ has lots of information on
this.

Preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs, pepperoni, and luncheon
meats often have added sugar and some brands have a lot of starchy fillers.
Some health food stores carry sugar-free bacon, but you probably won't find
it in most supermarkets. Lots of us just shop for the brands with the least
sugar/carbs, making sure we count the carbs in our daily carb limit. Others
of us avoid these foods or go to the effort of finding the sugar-free ones.

Another potential pitfall for the unwary is "carb-free" or "zero carbs per
serving" foods. Other than pure fats (such as butter or oil) and unprocessed
meat/poultry/fish, pretty much everything has *some* carbs. Even eggs have
about 0.5g carbs per large egg, and cheeses have 0.5g or more (depending on
the type) per ounce. You can eat these foods, just be sure you account for
the carbs.

Be aware that food manufacturers are legally allowed to round the carbs
*down* and some of them play games with serving sizes on their labels. If a
food has 0.4 grams of carbs per serving, the label can legally say "0
grams". If it has up to 0.9g/serving, the label can say "less than 1 gram".

Watch out for things like bacon, cream, coffee, tea, diet soft drinks,
artificial sweeteners (except for liquids, they contain fillers), sugar-free
jello, condiments, salad dressings, etc. And for some foods (for example,
the cream in your coffee - not to mention the coffee itself!), people
frequently consume more than one "serving" at a time. If you have a lot of
those "carb-free" foods each day, all those fractions of a carb will add up,
and your carb intake may be several grams higher than you think.

You might want to leave yourself a few grams of room under your 20g
allotment for this sort of thing. Other people follow the "when in doubt,
count it as 0.5g carbs" principle. Others of us or go to the USDA website to
find out the *real* carb counts of foods and add them up precisely. Whatever
works for you.

After Induction, when you bring your carb counts up, you probably won't have
to worry so much about fractions of a carb here and there.

Good luck,
Laura

"Jake" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks!!

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I wouldn't worry about trace amounts of sugar. As long as you are aware
of the nutritional value of what you are eating and make an effort to
eliminate it as much as possible, you should be fine. As far as shakes
go, they may be on the Induction list for newer versions of Atkins, they
were NOT on the original list. You need to keep in mind that Atkins
Nutritionals bought the rights to use the Atkins name, so they are,
first and foremost, selling products. I would be very wary of such low-
carb products, at least at first. Stick to basic foods and you'll be
better off, at least until you know how your body responds to
questionable foods.

BTW, ignore JC -- he insults EVERYONE and has the same lame line that
he's repeated thousands of times. Responding to him just makes him feel
special.

--
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205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I wouldn't worry about trace amounts of sugar. As long as you are aware
of the nutritional value of what you are eating and make an effort to
eliminate it as much as possible, you should be fine. As far as shakes
go, they may be on the Induction list for newer versions of Atkins, they
were NOT on the original list. You need to keep in mind that Atkins
Nutritionals bought the rights to use the Atkins name, so they are,
first and foremost, selling products. I would be very wary of such low-
carb products, at least at first. Stick to basic foods and you'll be
better off, at least until you know how your body responds to
questionable foods.

BTW, ignore JC -- he insults EVERYONE and has the same lame line that
he's repeated thousands of times. Responding to him just makes him feel
special.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I wouldn't worry about trace amounts of sugar. As long as you are aware
of the nutritional value of what you are eating and make an effort to
eliminate it as much as possible, you should be fine. As far as shakes
go, they may be on the Induction list for newer versions of Atkins, they
were NOT on the original list. You need to keep in mind that Atkins
Nutritionals bought the rights to use the Atkins name, so they are,
first and foremost, selling products. I would be very wary of such low-
carb products, at least at first. Stick to basic foods and you'll be
better off, at least until you know how your body responds to
questionable foods.

BTW, ignore JC -- he insults EVERYONE and has the same lame line that
he's repeated thousands of times. Responding to him just makes him feel
special.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I wouldn't worry about trace amounts of sugar. As long as you are aware
of the nutritional value of what you are eating and make an effort to
eliminate it as much as possible, you should be fine. As far as shakes
go, they may be on the Induction list for newer versions of Atkins, they
were NOT on the original list. You need to keep in mind that Atkins
Nutritionals bought the rights to use the Atkins name, so they are,
first and foremost, selling products. I would be very wary of such low-
carb products, at least at first. Stick to basic foods and you'll be
better off, at least until you know how your body responds to
questionable foods.

BTW, ignore JC -- he insults EVERYONE and has the same lame line that
he's repeated thousands of times. Responding to him just makes him feel
special.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I wouldn't worry about trace amounts of sugar. As long as you are aware
of the nutritional value of what you are eating and make an effort to
eliminate it as much as possible, you should be fine. As far as shakes
go, they may be on the Induction list for newer versions of Atkins, they
were NOT on the original list. You need to keep in mind that Atkins
Nutritionals bought the rights to use the Atkins name, so they are,
first and foremost, selling products. I would be very wary of such low-
carb products, at least at first. Stick to basic foods and you'll be
better off, at least until you know how your body responds to
questionable foods.

BTW, ignore JC -- he insults EVERYONE and has the same lame line that
he's repeated thousands of times. Responding to him just makes him feel
special.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alright, I know that during the induction phase sugar is strictly
prohibited. What I don't know is what that means exactly! Is it if
any form of sugar appears in the ingredients? Or does it mean that the
carbs from sugar on the nutritional label should read zero? I only ask
because there are a few approved food items for the induction phase
that have a few sugar grams listed under the carb count. One of those
is cream cheese. There are 1 to 2 grams of sugars from Carbs listed on
the nutritional label of every cream cheese that I've looked at. Also,
every Atkins brand shake has sugars from Carbs listed as well but those
are recommended during induction as well. I am just confused about
this so any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

I wouldn't worry about trace amounts of sugar. As long as you are aware
of the nutritional value of what you are eating and make an effort to
eliminate it as much as possible, you should be fine. As far as shakes
go, they may be on the Induction list for newer versions of Atkins, they
were NOT on the original list. You need to keep in mind that Atkins
Nutritionals bought the rights to use the Atkins name, so they are,
first and foremost, selling products. I would be very wary of such low-
carb products, at least at first. Stick to basic foods and you'll be
better off, at least until you know how your body responds to
questionable foods.

BTW, ignore JC -- he insults EVERYONE and has the same lame line that
he's repeated thousands of times. Responding to him just makes him feel
special.

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

You can't eat vegetables and low-carb fruits without having some sugar. It
occurs naturally in most growing things. In cream cheese it is lactose from
the milk. Carbs (except for fiber) are either some kind of sugar or some
kind of starch, which the body converts to sugar. The sugar listed in the
nutrients is not the one to watch out for as long as total carbs are within
your daily allotment, added sugar (or HFCS-high fructose corn syrup-even
worse) in the ingredients is what you should watch out for because it shows
up in an amazing array of foods, many of which you would not expect to have
it.

Excellent points! I'd like to add that, once you've been without sugar
for a while, it becomes VERY noticeable when you eat something that DOES
have added sugar that you previously wouldn't have ever thought would
have sugar in it -- it's like someone playing a piano beautifully and
then striking something VERY off-key -- it's downright JARRING! I've
done that and my first thought was: "Why the HELL did they put SUGAR in
this? What would even make them THINK to put sugar in it?"

--
Saffire
205/134/125
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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