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  1. Does sugar from fruit, turn into fat if we don't burn it off? If it
    does turn into fat. How much sugar is there approximately in each
    fruit?

  2. Yeah. Roughly 10 grams.

    jamd2ya said:

    Does sugar from fruit, turn into fat if we don't burn it off? If it
    does turn into fat. How much sugar is there approximately in each
    fruit?

  3. jamd2ya said:

    Does sugar from fruit, turn into fat if we don't burn it off?

    It doesn't matter what it is, if you don't burn it off anything will
    turn to fat.

    Quoted message said:

    If it does turn into fat. How much sugar is there approximately in


    each

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    fruit?

    The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you! It's
    loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!

    Patrick

  4. Not according to proponents of yeast infection, blood type, Weight Watchers,
    Atkins, South Beach, LC and most other diets for weight loss or health.

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you! It's
    loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!

    Patrick

  5. Piezo Guru wrote:
    :: Not according to proponents of yeast infection, blood type, Weight
    :: Watchers, Atkins, South Beach, LC and most other diets for weight
    :: loss or health.

    In many studies of "corrupt nutrition science'" fruit consumption
    associates with lower disease incidence.

    :: <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    :: news:[email hidden]...
    ::: The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you!
    ::: It's loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!
    :::
    ::: Patrick

    --
    Juhana

  6. Piezo Guru said:

    Not according to proponents of yeast infection, blood type, Weight


    Watchers,

    Quoted message said:

    Atkins, South Beach, LC and most other diets for weight loss or


    health.

    Huh? Cranberries have proved to be effective against urinary tract
    infections. And Weight Watchers are not against fruit consumption.
    South Beach is a softened version of Atkins so I would suspect they're
    not against eating some fruit. And Atkins is a hack/money making
    scheme, so if you're following that nonsense good luck.

    Patrick

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you!


    It's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!

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    Quoted message said:
    Piezo Guru said:

    Not according to proponents of yeast infection, blood type, Weight


    Watchers,

    Quoted message said:

    Atkins, South Beach, LC and most other diets for weight loss or


    health.

    Huh? Cranberries have proved to be effective against urinary tract
    infections. And Weight Watchers are not against fruit consumption.
    South Beach is a softened version of Atkins so I would suspect they're
    not against eating some fruit. And Atkins is a hack/money making
    scheme, so if you're following that nonsense good luck.

    Patrick

    You forgot to mention that gold standard hack/money making scheme Blood type
    diet.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you!


    It's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!


  8. So in other words, if you just ate fruit, could you go fat.

  9. Huh? Cran***BERRIES*** are a different class of food. They are
    ***BERRIES****

    Weight Watchers is against most fruit consumption. They are very high carbs.

    Not many follow your nonsense. When does your book or published papers come
    out on your nonsense?

    That's what I thought.

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    Quoted message said:
    Piezo Guru said:

    Not according to proponents of yeast infection, blood type, Weight


    Watchers,

    Quoted message said:

    Atkins, South Beach, LC and most other diets for weight loss or


    health.

    Huh? Cranberries have proved to be effective against urinary tract
    infections. And Weight Watchers are not against fruit consumption.
    South Beach is a softened version of Atkins so I would suspect they're
    not against eating some fruit. And Atkins is a hack/money making
    scheme, so if you're following that nonsense good luck.

    Patrick

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you!


    It's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!


  10. "jamd2ya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ..., turn into fat ...

    http://www.ecologos.org/obese.htm

    Laurie

  11. Piezo Guru said:

    Huh? Cran***BERRIES*** are a different class of food. They are
    ***BERRIES****

    Weight Watchers is against most fruit consumption. They are very high carbs.


    WTF cares what Weight Watchers thinks?

  12. If you think eating a lot of fruit is going to make you fat, you're on
    another planet. Avoid unsaturated fatty acids and oxidized cholesterol
    and you can eat almost anything.

    Sugar in fat can vary quite a bit. Some fruit is high in fructose,
    like apples and grapes. Others are high in glucose. Some have quite a
    bit of sucrose. I got a chart from the FDA a few years back, and
    interestinly, a cheeseburger on a bun had almost as much overall sugar
    content as a papaya (for the exact same serving size). You body was
    designed to run on sugar, particularly glucose. However, it doesn't
    satisify for long if that's all you eat, which is why the combination
    of high glucose foods with highly saturated fatty acid foods, such as
    coconut products, is such a great combination. If you know anything
    about the health of peoples on such diets, you would never listen to
    the so-called nutritional experts in the USA, who only know how to
    spread misinformation and outright lies.

  13. Piezo Guru said:

    Huh?

    Quoted message said:

    Cran***BERRIES*** are a different class of food. They are


    ***BERRIES****

    Not according to these folks:

    http://www.cranberryinstitute.org/

    http://www.thefruitpages.com/berries.shtml

    Quoted message said:

    Weight Watchers is against most fruit consumption. They are very high


    carbs.

    You're misinformed.

    Weight Watchers

    What you can eat:

    All foods are assigned point value. Generally, the higher the fat or
    calories, the more points assigned. Low-point foods include fruits,
    vegetables, low-fat dairy, poultry, seafood, lean meats and grains.

    What you should avoid:

    Lots of high-calorie or high-fat foods, too large of a serving.

    Sources: Weightwatchers.com

    BTW - carbs have the same number of calories as protein. And it's all
    about calories ingested vs burned.

    Quoted message said:

    Not many follow your nonsense. When does your book or published


    papers come

    Quoted message said:

    out on your nonsense?

    Nonsense, huh?

    I'm:
    height - 5' 9"
    weight - 168 lbs
    waist - 29.5"
    Performance - I run 1 1/2 miles in 9:32 / half marathon (13.1 miles) in
    1:39:17
    Age - 42
    Daily Fuel - lots of veggies (all types), lots of fruit (all types),
    generous portions of whole grain breads and cereals (all types), some
    non-fat dairy, some fish or lean meat (all types), a handful of
    nuts/seeds (all types), touch of extra virgin olive/canola oil, lots of
    spices, cup of green tea, and occasionally a chunk of dark chocolate.
    Organic varieties of everything as much as possible.
    School - one formal nutrition class; been reading about nutrition
    (newsletters, books/magazines) for 20 years.

    Now it's your turn.

    Patrick

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    Quoted message said:
    Piezo Guru said:

    Not according to proponents of yeast infection, blood type,


    Weight

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Watchers,

    Quoted message said:

    Atkins, South Beach, LC and most other diets for weight loss or


    health.

    Huh? Cranberries have proved to be effective against urinary tract
    infections. And Weight Watchers are not against fruit


    consumption.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    South Beach is a softened version of Atkins so I would suspect


    they're

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    not against eating some fruit. And Atkins is a hack/money making
    scheme, so if you're following that nonsense good luck.

    Patrick

    Quoted message said:

    > The sugar content doesn't matter. Fresh fruit is good for you!


    It's

    Quoted message said:

    > loaded with tons of nutrients. Eat up!


  14. Piezo Guru said:

    Weight Watchers is against most fruit consumption. They are very high carbs.

    No, but GI is high. GL on the other hand, except for bananas is low,
    to very low.

  15. The document I mentioned in the last post was from the USDA. Per 100
    gram portion sizes, raw strawberries had 5.7 grams of sugar, whereas
    the cheeseburger was 5.1. Papaya was 5.9. If you fear sugar, fruit
    isn't the problem, it's the other foods with "hidden sugar," because
    you don't think of sugar when you think of a cheeseburger.

  16. "montygram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    If you think eating a lot of fruit is going to make you fat, you're on
    another planet. Avoid unsaturated fatty acids and oxidized cholesterol
    and you can eat almost anything.


    Excesses of anything can cause problems.

    Quoted message said:

    You body was designed to run on sugar, particularly glucose. However, it
    doesn't satisify for long if that's all you eat, ...


    It would be pretty suicidal if one ate only sugar.
    Your use of the word "satisfy" is unclear; are you referring to that old
    familiar lump in the stomach resulting from the fact that animal-centric
    diets are pretty indigestible and sit in the stomach for hours??
    The lingering "feeling full" sensation after eating is merely a result
    of indigestion, and should not be sought after or praised as some sort of
    accomplishment.
    After one has gone through detox and stabilized on a diet approximating
    the natural one for our tropical ape species, to wit: raw fruits/veg and
    small amounts of nuts/seeds (for the protein addicts) that lump vanishes and
    one feels much lighter and energetic at all times.
    Dump the lump!!

    Laurie

  17. montygram said:


    If you think eating a lot of fruit is going to make you fat, you're on
    another planet. Avoid unsaturated fatty acids and oxidized cholesterol
    and you can eat almost anything.

    Who's on another planet?

    Quoted message said:

    Sugar in fat can vary quite a bit. Some fruit is high in fructose,
    like apples and grapes. Others are high in glucose. Some have quite a
    bit of sucrose.
    I got a chart from the FDA a few years back, and
    interestinly, a cheeseburger on a bun had almost as much overall sugar
    content as a papaya (for the exact same serving size). You body was
    designed to run on sugar, particularly glucose.

    Your body runs on fat. The glucose is for the brain (or oxygen starved
    muscles in exercise).

    MattLB

  18. Did not know you were an Atkins' Diet advocate, MattLB - that, and all
    your "essential fatty acids," will mean you won't be around much longer
    to post your nonsense. You might want to explain exactly how a diet
    nearly devoid in fat would damage a person, since the body makes all
    classes of fatty acids on its own. But then again, explaining your
    ridiculous claims has never been a strong suit of yours, has it?

    As to the other person, claiming that proteins, fatty acids, or
    carbohydrates are somehow different than plant sources when these are
    often the identical molecules demonstrates such a lack of biochemical
    understanding that there is no need to comment, except to say that
    experiments have been done illuminating how fat and sugar, eaten
    together at the same meal is much more satisfying than a "high-carb"
    meal, or a meal of mostly carbs and proteins. The only problem with
    fat is the oxidative stress you get from unsaturated fatty acids. If I
    hadn't spent over 4 years researching these various claims, and seeing
    the results for myself (in myself) I would not be posting here. But
    the good thing about nutritional claims is that if you listen to the
    wrong ones, you kill yourself, so you get what you deserve for being
    biased, aggressively ignorant, stubborn, etc.

  19. montygram said:


    Did not know you were an Atkins' Diet advocate, MattLB

    Nor did I. Where did I say that?

    Quoted message said:

    - that, and all
    your "essential fatty acids," will mean you won't be around much longer
    to post your nonsense. You might want to explain exactly how a diet
    nearly devoid in fat would damage a person, since the body makes all
    classes of fatty acids on its own.

    You need to do more research.

    Quoted message said:

    But then again, explaining your
    ridiculous claims has never been a strong suit of yours, has it?

    The thing is I never make the claims that you attack. You twist things
    around to your personal crusade and then put words in people's mouths.
    In contrast, you make definitive claims and then turn a blind eye to
    contradictory responses.

    Quoted message said:

    As to the other person, claiming that proteins, fatty acids, or
    carbohydrates are somehow different than plant sources when these are
    often the identical molecules demonstrates such a lack of biochemical
    understanding that there is no need to comment, except to say that
    experiments have been done illuminating how fat and sugar, eaten
    together at the same meal is much more satisfying

    Satisfying? How is that quantified scientifically? What do you mean by
    it?

    MattLB

  20. On 22 Mar 2005 09:36:14 -0800, "montygram" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Did not know you were an Atkins' Diet advocate, MattLB - that, and all
    your "essential fatty acids," will mean you won't be around much longer
    to post your nonsense. You might want to explain exactly how a diet
    nearly devoid in fat would damage a person, since the body makes all
    classes of fatty acids on its own. But then again, explaining your
    ridiculous claims has never been a strong suit of yours, has it?

    Really?? Neither C18:2 omega-6 nor C18:2 omega-3 can be formed, only
    C18:2 omega-9 from C18:1 omega-9

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