Sugar basic food groups for many adults

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This is why the food industry spends billions every year
on "research" trying to convince us that the problem is
dietary fat or genetics or portion control or lack of
control or anything other than refined carbs.

TC

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"We knew it was bad, but we didn't know it was this bad,"
said Gladys Block, a professor of epidemiology and public
health nutrition at the university. "It's no wonder there's
an obesity epidemic in this country."

Her findings, the most recent and comprehensive look at
what the nation eats based on caloric intake, show that
three types of foods -- sweets and desserts; soft drinks;
and alcoholic beverages -- make up almost 25 percent of
all calories.

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Participants were asked to report all the foods they ate in
a 24-hour period. The study, based on diets from 1999 to
2000, doesn't include people younger than 18, who have even
worse diets than adults, according to Block and other
nutritionists.

"If I was to look separately at teenagers and young adults,
it would be much worse," she said. "I really shudder to
think what our national health situation is going to be 20
or 30 years from now when the young generation who is really
living on this diet gets older."

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
which used data from the same comprehensive survey, an
estimated 64 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or
obese. About 15 percent of children are overweight, and 40
percent more are considered unfit.

Harold Goldstein, executive director of the California
Center for Public Health Advocacy in Sacramento, said the
fact that Americans consume so much junk food, soda and beer
was alarming but not a surprise.

"Those are exactly the products the food industry advertises
the most. My hope is this kind of information will not only
change individual behavior but inform public policy. The
obesity epidemic isn't only about personal choices, it's
about all the advertising the food industry aims at our
children."

The UC Berkeley study highlights another disturbing
undercurrent to the nation's obesity crisis: Although two-
thirds of adults are overweight or obese, many of them are
malnourished, Block said.

"Obviously, we need to worry about weight, but we also need
to realize that people are eating a huge amount of food that
has no useful micronutrients like vitamins and minerals,"
Block said. "The message isn't to eat less, but to eat
differently."

unquote

Pretty damning stuff.

TC

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This is why the food industry spends billions every year
on "research" trying to convince us that the problem is
dietary fat or genetics or portion control or lack of
control or anything other than refined carbs.

TC

quote:

"We knew it was bad, but we didn't know it was this bad,"
said Gladys Block, a professor of epidemiology and public
health nutrition at the university. "It's no wonder
there's an obesity epidemic in this country."

Her findings, the most recent and comprehensive look at
what the nation eats based on caloric intake, show that
three types of foods -- sweets and desserts; soft drinks;
and alcoholic beverages -- make up almost 25 percent of
all calories.

unquote

quote

Participants were asked to report all the foods they ate
in a 24-hour period. The study, based on diets from 1999
to 2000, doesn't include people younger than 18, who have
even worse diets than adults, according to Block and other
nutritionists.

"If I was to look separately at teenagers and young
adults, it would be much worse," she said. "I really
shudder to think what our national health situation is
going to be 20 or 30 years from now when the young
generation who is really living on this diet gets older."

According to the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, which used data from the same comprehensive
survey, an estimated 64 percent of U.S. adults are either
overweight or obese. About 15 percent of children are
overweight, and 40 percent more are considered unfit.

Harold Goldstein, executive director of the California
Center for Public Health Advocacy in Sacramento, said the
fact that Americans consume so much junk food, soda and
beer was alarming but not a surprise.

"Those are exactly the products the food industry
advertises the most. My hope is this kind of information
will not only change individual behavior but inform public
policy. The obesity epidemic isn't only about personal
choices, it's about all the advertising the food industry
aims at our children."

The UC Berkeley study highlights another disturbing
undercurrent to the nation's obesity crisis: Although two-
thirds of adults are overweight or obese, many of them are
malnourished, Block said.

"Obviously, we need to worry about weight, but we also
need to realize that people are eating a huge amount of
food that has no useful micronutrients like vitamins and
minerals," Block said. "The message isn't to eat less, but
to eat differently."

unquote

Pretty damning stuff.

TC

Of course we have known all this for years. I have been
saying for a long time that the state of human health 20
or 30 years from now will be drasticly worse than today.
The utter failure of modern medicine will be complete.
Maybe things will finaly start to change at that point.
Just wait 20 or 30 years. When those children and teens
of today start dropping like flies and living a
significantly shorter lifespan than the previous
generation. I do not even want to think about the horrid
state the CHILDREN of those children will be
in. Combine this fact with the reality that the world will
be starting to run out of oil and imagine what is to
become of modern human society. I strongly believe we
have long passed the hight of modern society and are in
a rapid decline. Despite all our advanced technology
and medical knowlage the state of humanity in 40 years
will be abominable. The scary thing is most people
would imagine that in 40 years we will be some kind of
super advanced society with incredible technological
advancments and living in a virtual utopia. That could
not be further from the truth as every aspect of
society is in decline. The sad thing is there is
absolutely no reason it should happen. There is every
possibility for humans to live in a utopia of wealth
and health in 40 years but it will not be so. The
massive corruption and greed in the world of the few
will see to that as well as the ignorance and blind
stupidity of the masses. Anyway I think my rant went a
little too deep this time hehe.

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That could not be further from the truth as every aspect
of society is in decline.

Well, this is something that every generation of humankind
was saying since language was invented.

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The sad thing is there is absolutely no reason it should
happen. There is every possibility for humans to live in
a utopia of wealth and health in 40 years but it will not
be so. The massive corruption and greed in the world of
the few will see to that as well as the ignorance and
blind stupidity of the masses. Anyway I think my rant
went a little too deep this time hehe.

🙂

Mirek

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sfgate.comcgiOpen ↗
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This is why the food industry spends billions every
year on "research" trying to convince us that the
problem is dietary fat or genetics or portion control
or lack of control or anything other than refined
carbs.

TC

quote:

"We knew it was bad, but we didn't know it was this
bad," said Gladys Block, a professor of epidemiology and
public health nutrition at the university. "It's no
wonder there's an obesity epidemic in this country."

Her findings, the most recent and comprehensive look at
what the nation eats based on caloric intake, show that
three types of foods -- sweets and desserts; soft
drinks; and alcoholic beverages -- make up almost 25
percent of all calories.

unquote

quote

Participants were asked to report all the foods they ate
in a 24-hour period. The study, based on diets from 1999
to 2000, doesn't include people younger than 18, who
have even worse diets than adults, according to Block
and other nutritionists.

"If I was to look separately at teenagers and young
adults, it would be much worse," she said. "I really
shudder to think what our national health situation is
going to be 20 or 30 years from now when the young
generation who is really living on this diet gets
older."

According to the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, which used data from the same comprehensive
survey, an estimated 64 percent of U.S. adults are
either overweight or obese. About 15 percent of children
are overweight, and 40 percent more are considered
unfit.

Harold Goldstein, executive director of the California
Center for Public Health Advocacy in Sacramento, said
the fact that Americans consume so much junk food, soda
and beer was alarming but not a surprise.

"Those are exactly the products the food industry
advertises the most. My hope is this kind of information
will not only change individual behavior but inform
public policy. The obesity epidemic isn't only about
personal choices, it's about all the advertising the
food industry aims at our children."

The UC Berkeley study highlights another disturbing
undercurrent to the nation's obesity crisis: Although
two-thirds of adults are overweight or obese, many of
them are malnourished, Block said.

"Obviously, we need to worry about weight, but we also
need to realize that people are eating a huge amount of
food that has no useful micronutrients like vitamins and
minerals," Block said. "The message isn't to eat less,
but to eat differently."

unquote

Pretty damning stuff.

TC

Of course we have known all this for years. I have been
saying for a long time that the state of human health
20 or 30 years from now will be drasticly worse than
today. The utter failure of modern medicine will be
complete. Maybe things will finaly start to change at
that point. Just wait 20 or 30 years. When those
children and teens of today start dropping like flies
and living a significantly shorter lifespan than the
previous generation. I do not even want to think about
the horrid state the CHILDREN of those children will be
in. Combine this fact with the reality that the world
will be starting to run out of oil and imagine what
is to become of modern human society. I strongly
believe we have long passed the hight of modern
society and are in a rapid decline. Despite all our
advanced technology and medical knowlage the state of
humanity in 40 years will be abominable. The scary
thing is most people would imagine that in 40 years
we will be some kind of super advanced society with
incredible technological advancments and living in a
virtual utopia. That could not be further from the
truth as every aspect of society is in decline. The
sad thing is there is absolutely no reason it should
happen. There is every possibility for humans to live
in a utopia of wealth and health in 40 years but it
will not be so. The massive corruption and greed in
the world of the few will see to that as well as the
ignorance and blind stupidity of the masses. Anyway I
think my rant went a little too deep this time hehe.

Our medical research establishments (universities, journals,
doctors, nutritionists, etc) are leading us down that path
on behalf of their financial masters, (big pharma, food
industry, sugar industry, etc). And the government agencies
(NIH, FDA, etc) are sitting back, collecting their
consulting fees, letting it all happen.

TC

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Our medical research establishments (universities,
journals, doctors,

nutritionists, etc) are leading us down that path on
behalf of their financial masters, (big pharma, food
industry, sugar industry, etc). And the government
agencies (NIH, FDA, etc) are sitting back, collecting
their consulting fees, letting it all happen.

If you walk like a duck, talk like duck.... by God you
are a quack!

-D

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Our medical research establishments (universities,
journals, doctors,

nutritionists, etc) are leading us down that path on
behalf of their financial masters, (big pharma, food
industry, sugar industry, etc). And the government
agencies (NIH, FDA, etc) are sitting back, collecting
their consulting fees, letting it all happen.

If you walk like a duck, talk like duck.... by God you are
a quack!

-D

Do you have any scientific evidence of that?

TC

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> Our medical research establishments (universities,
> journals,

doctors,

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nutritionists, etc) are leading us down that path on
behalf of

their

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financial masters, (big pharma, food industry, sugar
industry,

etc).

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And the government agencies (NIH, FDA, etc) are
sitting back, collecting their consulting fees,
letting it all happen.

If you walk like a duck, talk like duck.... by God you
are a quack!

-D

Do you have any scientific evidence of that?

Why bother. Any evidence you are shown is immediately tossed
aside with conspiracy theory. It's like trying to have a
discussion with a 3 three old whose answers all questions
with "'because." When you assume this inane position the
quack detector pegs to the right and people know you are lot
of crayons short of a box. Like all the people inside the
asylum think those on the outside are crazy. At the moment
you are on the inside of the funny farm telling us how wrong
we are. Most of the time I shake my head in disbelief the
rest I laugh my ass off.

-D

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>> Our medical research establishments (universities,
>> journals,

doctors,

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> nutritionists, etc) are leading us down that path on
> behalf of

their

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> financial masters, (big pharma, food industry, sugar
> industry,

etc).

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> And the government agencies (NIH, FDA, etc) are
> sitting back, collecting their consulting fees,
> letting it all happen.

If you walk like a duck, talk like duck.... by God you
are a quack!

-D

Do you have any scientific evidence of that?

Why bother. Any evidence you are shown is immediately
tossed aside with conspiracy theory.

No conspiracy... only billions of dollars worth of hard-
nosed and imaginative marketing.

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It like trying to have a discussion with a 3 three old
whose answers all questions with "'because."

I know you are, but what am I?

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When you assume this inane position the quack detector
pegs to the right and people know you are lot of crayons
short of a box.

Inane? Quack? Those are quite the assumptions on your part.

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Like all the people inside the asylum think those on the
outside are crazy.

There is a very fine line between insanity and genius.
Thanks for the compliment.

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At the moment you are on the inside of the funny farm
telling us how wrong we are.

What if I'm right? Seriously, think about it. What if
I am right?

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Most of the time I shake my head in disbelief the rest I
laugh my ass off.

-D

That is your right. Have fun with it. I am.

TC

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What if I'm right? Seriously, think about it. What if I
am right?

If you are right we will all turn into your humble slaves.
On the other hand the drivel you site is down right
ludicrous and when showed you are smooking the funny stuff
you side step with conspiracy, complicity, etc.
i.e. character assaination. You are correct there is a fine
line between genious and loony, but sorry, to date I'd
suspect you are on the "inside" and happen to have
computer access.

-DF