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k.papai said:

Boston Globe will be covering Matt DeCanio and publishing some photos
too. Should be interesting.
-Ken

what day?
e-RICHIE

They want to know the skinny on Mr Marblehead. Local boy goes bad
angle. That is all I can share for now.

cp

k.papai said:

Boston Globe will be covering Matt DeCanio and publishing some photos
too. Should be interesting.

Jose C. "tells all" and gets on 60 Minutes twice this week, but the
more worthy endeavor, the Globe, gets to cover Matt.

Word.

-Ken

What's the angle? Maybe's he's convinced the Business editor at the
Globe that he's actually a fashion designer just because he has some
pictures of anorexic giraffes on his website - a website which changes
its business theme every other week.

Quote from SU.com:

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"Do you really want to take drugs? They will make your balls fall off.
You will have to get a ball implant. They might screw up and give
you a Double D testicle and you will have to buy a wheel barrel and hire
a Sherpa to carry your balls for you. Don't take drugs they will ruin
your health. You can win the battle against drugs with will power and a
strong heart."

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Isn't Matt forgetting the part about Canseco, Bonds, McGuire making $20+
million and guys like Museeuw, Bugno, and Hamilton getting their
millions and gold medals from TAKING dope.

Who is Matt talking about with the wheelbarrow balls anyway - Ernie Lechuga?

Thanks,

Magilla

matt PRO, you'd better be careful what you say about Tyler. He might
be very interested in taking your urban clothing company off your
hands.

Just make sure you talk about what you know, and not what you think you
know.

Decanio hasn't been suspended (he just says they've told him he will
be). USADA is still saying "no comment". Lets deal with facts Matt.

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Decanio hasn't been suspended (he just says they've told him he will
be). USADA is still saying "no comment". Lets deal with facts Matt.

The suspension will be announced soon. Not that it matters - no team
will touch him now.

Good luck with the #13 T-shirt fashion "company" and the delusional
COMMANDER [censored], Matty!

Magilla

"what day?
e-RICHIE "

My best guess? Between this Friday and next Tuesday.

I am hoping they use one or more of my photos. I've spoken with the
Globe reporter and their photo editor. I am sure Matt will help OK the
images. Time will tell.

-Ken

Suck it Monkey Boy

crit PRO said:

Suck it Monkey Boy

Go make some more $15 T-shirts at your fashion "company," doper Matty.

Magilla

Magilla,

How many times have you drafted behind a support vehicle, or gotten a
free lap simply because you fell on top of a bunch of other guys (but
had no damage to you or your bike)? How many times have you crossed
the center line to get to the front before the climb (and not gotten
caught)? How many times have you ridden in the slipstream of the rider
who just passed you in a time trial? How many times have you taken an
"up-time"? How many times have you crossed the stayers line while
sprinting on the track? How many times have you taken an illegal feed
while not in the designated feed zone?

Let he who is without a cheat in his past, cast the first suspension.

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Magilla,

How many times have you drafted behind a support vehicle, or gotten a
free lap simply because you fell on top of a bunch of other guys (but
had no damage to you or your bike)? How many times have you crossed
the center line to get to the front before the climb (and not gotten
caught)? How many times have you ridden in the slipstream of the rider
who just passed you in a time trial? How many times have you taken an
"up-time"? How many times have you crossed the stayers line while
sprinting on the track? How many times have you taken an illegal feed
while not in the designated feed zone?

Let he who is without a cheat in his past, cast the first suspension.

You're bizarre. Decanio will be suspended by USADA for doping and he
makes $15 T-shirts which he calls an urban fashion company.

Everything you say is irrelevant to those facts.

Magilla

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Magilla,

How many times have you drafted behind a support vehicle, or gotten a
free lap simply because you fell on top of a bunch of other guys (but
had no damage to you or your bike)? How many times have you crossed
the center line to get to the front before the climb (and not gotten
caught)? How many times have you ridden in the slipstream of the

rider

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who just passed you in a time trial? How many times have you taken

an

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"up-time"? How many times have you crossed the stayers line while
sprinting on the track? How many times have you taken an illegal

feed

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while not in the designated feed zone?

Let he who is without a cheat in his past, cast the first suspension.

I never did any of those things.

Is it really so inconceivable that some of us don't cheat?

-RJ

Crossing a center line is NOT cheating unless you do it deliberately
and with intention to gain an advantage.

Being penalized DOES NOT mean you were caught cheating. Sometimes you
break a rule without intent. That certainly happens miss kaiser.

-Ken

Papai, in your gargantuan industrial park crit career, I can imagine
that you have not cheated much. But anyone who has raced a substantial
amount of time has done at least 75% of what I listed. Surely every
pro has crossed the center line in a subtle attempt to move up. They
certainly have all taken illegal feeds, and the free-lap rule is abused
in almost every race. Most of the older riders who raced as juniors
can remember deflating their tires so they'd pass roll-out with a 53x15
gear. And there are even regulars in this group whom I've whizzed past
in TT's that have immediately gotten on my wheel to prevent losing more
time. Davis Phinney was a cheater, Andy Paulin too. Kiefel?
Definitely. Grewal? Big time.

And all the Cat 1's know what I'm talkin about, because if you're on a
decent team, you know that you spend time in the group just (illegally)
shoving "lesser" riders out of the the way to assist in moving your top
people into position.

You ALL cheat. Decanio, Waddell...All of you.

I just thinks it's funny that you consider your own cheats to be of
lesser consequence than Decanio's.

" Papai, in your gargantuan industrial park crit career, I can imagine
that you have not cheated much. But anyone who has raced a substantial
amount of time has done at least 75% of what I listed. Surely every
pro has crossed the center line in a subtle attempt to move up. They
certainly have all taken illegal feeds, and the free-lap rule is abused
in almost every race. Most of the older riders who raced as juniors
can remember deflating their tires so they'd pass roll-out with a 53x15
gear. And there are even regulars in this group whom I've whizzed past
in TT's that have immediately gotten on my wheel to prevent losing more
time. Davis Phinney was a cheater, Andy Paulin too. Kiefel?
Definitely. Grewal? Big time"

So doing road races in many parts of the states, sometimes on roads
that would rival P-R cobbles, also counts as an "industrial park crit"
career. You're bizarre but then who am I to judge? You hide behind
your witty non-de-plume and can smoke all of us.

Good for you.

Good for freakin' you.

Stay hidden. Don't embarrass yourself by coming out man.

-Ken

You tell him Pappy.. You have surely cheated in a Road Races too, and F
him for using a fake name. I'm with you.

RVD

Never Cheated...Except I might have gotten drafted back to the pack
after a flat once or twice, maybe taken one or two illegal feeds, I
might have held on to a follow car but only when I needed to, maybe
abused the free lap rule after a "crash", maybe sat up after leading
someone out and that might have hendered someones path, maybe pushed
someone out in a corner, oh I might have a cut a course or two passing
someone in crit, I might have taken my hands off the bars and
accidently hit someone or pulled someone jersey,maybe one or two hang
slings, started a crit with both feet clipped in, but I can guarantee
you I have NEVER DOPED, so I am no cheat.

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Papai, in your gargantuan industrial park crit career, I can imagine
that you have not cheated much. But anyone who has raced a

substantial

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amount of time has done at least 75% of what I listed. Surely every
pro has crossed the center line in a subtle attempt to move up. They
certainly have all taken illegal feeds, and the free-lap rule is

abused

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in almost every race. Most of the older riders who raced as juniors
can remember deflating their tires so they'd pass roll-out with a

53x15

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gear. And there are even regulars in this group whom I've whizzed

past

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in TT's that have immediately gotten on my wheel to prevent losing

more

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time. Davis Phinney was a cheater, Andy Paulin too. Kiefel?
Definitely. Grewal? Big time.

And all the Cat 1's know what I'm talkin about, because if you're on

a

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decent team, you know that you spend time in the group just

(illegally)

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shoving "lesser" riders out of the the way to assist in moving your

top

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people into position.

You ALL cheat. Decanio, Waddell...All of you.

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA horsey. I'm not sure who you are or
what you are implying, but you need to check your facts smarty. I
really don't you need to be putting ME in the same class as Matt. That
dude has some issues to deal with...and I hope he gets them resolved.

I on the other hand am retired from racing, going to school full-time
and enjoying riding my bike again. I think I am owed a retraction from
you for your insult and unfounded accusation.

thanks,
jason
ps: just when you think your out, they pull you back in...

So you do "cheat", but you don't dope, so you are not a "cheater".
Ahh, so you are the judge of who gets lumped into what category.
Dopers are cheaters, but people who abuse the free-lap rule for a
little rest-stop are OK?

Now I get it.

No I didn't cheat because I didn't get caught. If I got caught then it
would have been cheating.

RVD