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  1. I have a stuck pedal on my uni, its my right one (pedal/crank grab and
    grind side). I don't know how to get it off. I tried a four foot long
    torque extender as well as WD-40, and I don't think it budged. It may be
    crossthreaded but I don't think so. I had the same problem with my old
    Torker CX, that was definitely cross threaded. Oh yeah its a summit.
    What should I do?

    David

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  2. I know it's a stupid question, but are you turning it counterclockwise?
    Many left pedals have been destroyed by people trying to remove them y
    turning them counterclockwise.

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  3. gerblefranklin said:

    *Many left pedals have been destroyed by people trying to remove them
    y turning them counterclockwise. *

    [quote="darchibald"][b]its my right one[]b[

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  4. How do you fix the crank/the uni when you are using a *four foot* long
    extender? Wow.

    If your desperate enough and unwilling to seek professional help (e.g. a
    bike shop), and if you have checked at least 4 times that you are really
    turning it in the right direction, you can *carefully* try to heat the
    crank at the pedal with a gas torch.

    That can make it move.

    Don`t overheat the crank, and don`t heat the pedal axle. Too much heat
    can lead to hidden damage so that crank or pedal break when you're not
    expecting it. But perhaps someone with better knowledge of metals can
    comment on this.. .

    Oh, and did you check that the pedal in question really has a right
    thread and is not simply a left pedal with a left crank on the right
    (eh, wrong:-) side? Somewhere on the pedal (sometimes on the end of the
    pedal axle, sometimes near the point you attach the wrench to
    ) should be a big "R" for "Right"... .

    Regards,
    j.

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  5. First off, have you tried using a pedal wrench, specifically? Also, a
    bit of liquid wrench could do the trick, if it's just seized up in
    there. Just let it soak in, and then give it a try. (just don't get it
    in the sealed bearings of the pedal) I'm sure you know, leverage is
    your friend. Getting another person hold the uni, while you tap the
    pedal wrench with a rubber mallet sometimes works as well. As a
    preventative measure, make sure the lube the threads well with bearing
    grease before they're installed.

    Hope this helps!
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  6. Alright they were definitely in the proper sides. About a week and a
    half ago I was able to get it out after riding on it for a little while.
    It came easy. So I put in some $5 plastic ones just temporarily, but I
    discovered I loved them. They were glued to my feet and I could feel the
    weight difference. But last night I noticed a wobble on the right side
    (to make it a little more confusing, it was in my LBS, for something
    unrelated, and he put the frame on backwards, so although its on the
    right side it is the left pedal/crank). Anyway, it was wobbling so I'd
    screw it back in by hand, then eventually I just pulled it straight out.
    Is it possible I got the wrong size, I think it was 9/16" (I will check
    that), and they are the standard KH cranks. The pedals were completely
    stripped and the cranks didn't look to bad, just a little chunky at the
    ends of the holes. What should I do? Do the cranks need to be retapped?
    Should I stay away from cheap pedals?

    David

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  7. What kind of pedals were they? I use the cheap ($20 CDN) plastic
    Wellgos, and they have done me no wrong. I also swap them for my alloy
    pedals weekly, depend on if i want to do grinding or not, and i've had
    no problems getting them on and off.

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  8. I think they were wellgos maybe wellgo rip-offs. They weren't platform
    either.

    David

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  9. It's possible that the pedals were stripped because they were ridden
    loose. Recently went through the same thing with my uni, though in my
    case it was the crank that stripped. Consider yourself lucky and get a
    pedal wrench. Check the pedals for tightness frequently. Ended up
    welding the pedal to the crank so that my son can learn on the cheap
    one.
    Good luck!
    Jeff

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  10. Its really frusterating. I've tried my old summit pedals, and my old CX
    pedals, plus those $5 ones and they all put out of the crank. Can I do
    unfixable damage to the crank maybe in the way of stripping? Is there
    something I can do to fix or prevent it?

    David

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  11. Check the threads on both pedal and crank before assembling, and
    *always* start the threading by hand. Since you destroyed the threads
    of a pedal, it sounds like your cranks are made of a hardened metal, and
    its threads may be damaged.

    Heating the crank with a propane torch should help things here. Try not
    to get the crank to the point where it glows, you could "un-harden" the
    crank material. Also, try not to heat the pedal, as you only want the
    crank to expand. Let both surfaces cool naturally, again you could
    re-temper the materials and create a weak point in your crank.

    Once the pedal's off, clean the threads (both pedal and crank) with some
    sort of degreaser and an old smelly toothbrush. The threads should look
    straight and clean. If they're burred, look smashed, or asymmetrical in
    any way they're probably toast.

    You may be able to revive your cranks by re-tapping the threads. A bike
    shop can do this; don't bother going to a machine shop as the thread
    sizes used are nonstandard. If your pedals have mashed threads, trash
    'em, they could only make things worse for you.

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  12. The pedal comes out too easy now thats the problem. Thanks for the
    advice. I think the pedals are done.

    David

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  13. darchibald said:

    (to make it a little more confusing, it was in my LBS, for something
    unrelated, and he put the frame on backwards, so although its on the
    right side it is the left pedal/crank).

    That's it! Not only should an L pedal screw into the L crank, but it
    is an L for a reason. It should be on the left-hand side of the uni,
    otherwise the forces of riding will unscrew the pedal.

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  14. Oh man if thats the reason I feel like an idiot. It makes sense I just
    never got around to switching it back. I'll do it right now and be back
    with an update. Did i mention i feel dumb?

    David

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  15. I switched and screwed some unstripped ones in but now on my left side I
    can pull it straight out, with a bit of force. It isn't like
    frictionless, and unfortunately the crank is stripped. Should I get it
    tapped or just get a new set, (something I don't want to do). If I get
    it tapped won't that make it bigger and too big for pedals? Or is there
    a different size of pedal I could obtain?

    David

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  16. Before we welded my sons stripped crank to the pedal, there was jb weld
    a drill and tap involved. Broke the end of the tap off fixing the pedal
    in place. That only lasted a couple of days...

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  17. Sounds like you've stripped the threads in the crank. This happens when
    the pedal threads get cross-threaded in the crank.

    To prevent cross-threading you need to start the threads by hand at
    least a couple turns. Once the threads have been started by hand you
    can start using the pedal wrench. It is amazingly easy to cross-thread
    pedals into a crank. Always be careful when installing pedals.

    To repair the crank you can get the stripped threads fixed with a
    helicoil. A helicoil is a threaded insert. First new threads are cut
    in the crank with a tap. Then the helicoil is inserted. The end result
    is new threads, the same size as the old pedal threads.

    The left crank is going to require a reverse threaded helicoil. Darren
    Bedford has the tools and the necessary helicoil inserts. Best bet is
    to send him the crank and have him fix it.

    A good local bike shop should also have the necessary tap and helicoil.
    Just be careful that you don't end up spending more on the fix than what
    a new crank would cost.

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  18. Yup I definitely stripped it. I think it was a result that it was on
    backwards (like Klass) said and I loosened it and then rode it too lose.
    I was careful to put them in because I ruined my torkers cranks making
    that mistake. I was at what is probably the best bike shop in the
    province today and they said they couldn't do it for me but that a
    machine shop might be able to do the helicoil thing. I'll talk to
    bedford and get a price. Thanks,

    David

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  19. I found a place that might be able to do it locally. Is there any thing
    I need to tell them? I'm gonna make sure he knows exactly what to do and
    if he doesn't or I don't trust him I'll send it to the man, Bedford.

    David

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  20. darchibald said:

    *I found a place that might be able to do it locally. Is there any
    thing I need to tell them? I'm gonna make sure he knows exactly what
    to do and if he doesn't or I don't trust him I'll send it to the man,
    Bedford.

    David *

    I don't know if there is anything special you should tell them other
    than the obvious, like make sure the threads are in straight.

    The left crank needs reverse threads which means they will need a
    special tap for reverse threads and then need the special helicoil for
    reverse threads. I can't imagine that places that don't do bike work
    would have that tap and those helicoils on hand. If it is a place that
    does do bike work then they should already know all about it and be good
    to go.

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