Strongly Considering WW, have questions

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My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you have to
buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other than
the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Hi Julie! I'll answer your questions and I'm sure others will too..

1) my registration was free when I joined r4 weeks ago. I pay $9.95 per week and I get two passes
every 6 months for when I am on vacation or can't go to a meeting. I did buy the "dining out
guide" for around $9-10 because I do go out to eat a lot and I wanted to know the points. However
you don't have to buy that. The points are listed on the internet at places like www.dwlz.com and
www.dietfacts.com.

2)At the meetings you weigh-in, celebrations are done (lose 5 lbs get a bookmark, etc.), then we
talk about that weeks topic. At my meeting last week was "dining out" and this week was
"breakfast". My leader talked about the importance of eating breakfast, low point breakfast
ideas, etc.

3)I pretty much answered that in #2, but each week is a different topic.

Kathy

My registration was free too (until March 31 it is free in the usa)

I pay $12 per meeting but bought a $108 prepaid plan for 10 meetings.

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I understand that this was
an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain
occurred because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Hi Julie from another Julie! WW is a great program - there are even a lot of people here who don't
go to meetings (if that's not your thing), so it's flexible enough to suit your lifestyle. Others
have answered your specific questions, so I'll just add the official welcome notice. There's a lot
of good info in there too.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
(Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comrafl.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will need less to operate). At 183 pounds and based
on the new US flexpoints system, you will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are
allowed 35 flexpoints to be used throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on
a particular day. When your weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches
150, target once again drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of
fruit and veggies, minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints to be used at your discretion ... can divide
them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points per day) or save them and use them for a
special occassion during the week. Activity points are earned based when exercising, but can ONLY be
used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are
different. The UK and Australia/NZ calculate points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules.
Most of Europe calculates based on total fat and total kilojoules. The desktop calculator above can
handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to post
advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this are
just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of the regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience
as a suggestion to try if you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what
works for him/herself. If someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the
newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
93.5/73./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I understand that this was
an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain
occurred because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Hello Julie,

As others have stated there are only the registration (which is free sometimes, depending on the
time of year) and the weekly meeting fees. There is nothing else to buy at all. I would highly
recommend you have a food scale and good measuring cups and spoons to be successful though.
Sometimes you are not truly aware of what a portion size is until it is measured or weighed. You
learn over time what these are when you use your scale or measuring cups/spoons, but it is always
good to check as portions tend to creep up and that can be detrimental to your weight loss efforts.
I know my center has a getting started package that includes the Dining Out Guide and also the
Complete Food Companion. These will help you a lot to determine portion sizes and point values.
There are also available to you in the WW center, cookbooks, WW magazine, 2 point snack bars,
smoothie mixes, pedometer, exercise videos/DVDs and other things to help you along your journey, BUT
none of them are required, the only think you are required to pay is your weekly meeting fee. I
highly recommend getting the 10 week block of coupons as you normally get about $1 off per week
buying them in advance, I also like it as you don't have to wait in line to pay AND wait in line to
weigh. You can just go straight to the scale and weigh in.

The meetings are a support group. The topics change each week, typically the week runs Sunday-
Saturday, so the topic would be the same all week, but different leaders offer different information
based on their experience, so if it is a particularly good topic, you could go to more than one
meeting for just the one fee for the week. There is so much to the group support, as everyone offers
their experience in what they do along this journey. I know there are weeks, when sometimes the
topic is barely touched on as someone is dealing with a situation that is difficult for them and we
all offer our help with the issue at hand. I know I love my group and all the members in it, we are
like a big family and support and help each other immensely. We do celebrations too, and like
someone else mentioned, they are 5 lb bookmark, then you get a star for ever 5 lbs lost after that,
then there is the 25 lb and 50 lb magnets, and also the 10% keychain, there is also the 16 weeks of
attendance charm and the other charms that are for reaching goal and then making lifetime. Of course
the ultimate goal is to be at lifetime so you can continue to attend meetings free of charge as long
as you are no more than 2 lbs over your declared goal weight.

I love the program and highly recommend it. It is a real livable program that you can work around
any dietary needs you may have. If there is something you don't like, you don't have to have it, if
there is something you love, there are no restrictions as long as it fits with in your points
available to you. It is a livable plan, that you can follow for life.

Debbie

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I understand that this was
an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain
occurred because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

First I have to say the WW and JC are totally different. I ate many of the same foods on WW that I
eat when I am eating exactly what I want to eat, and not on any sort of WOE, or plan of any kind. I
did begin to eat more like I Wanted to eat (nutritionally), but made room for my favorites as well,
just not every day. I also have done every program there is, and find myself now 209 pounds less
than my heaviest ever weight, and going to meetings for free (on lifetime) when I need some extra
motivation to stick with my healthy lifestyle. That said...

Quoted message said:

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)?

**ZERO, nothing, nada. You may buy some other things if you wish to, but you can do the program
perfectly well with the weekly meeting fee. I used to give myself little treats ( a new WW mug, a
magazine, a bracelet ) when I lost 5 pounds.

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What happens at meetings other than the weekly weigh-in?

****They teach tools for living, and share experiences. You learn how other people are succeeding
and watch what messes other people up.

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What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

All kinds of things. They have a whole program of stuff. Some of the things that helped me this
time, were making a storyboard (a picture book of where I was going) formulating a winning outcome,
all kinds of stuff. Too much to put here.

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Thanks for answering my questions.

Anytime, I hope you join us 🙂!!

Lesanne
365/157.5/157.5

I've never tried Jenny Craig so I can't speak from personal experience about the program. But
straight from the Jenny Craig Web site, here's why I won't consider it: "Jenny's delicious cuisine
offers satisfying, nutritious and convenient meals and snacks that take the guesswork out of calorie
counting, portion control and nutritional balance."

In order for me to maintain my weight loss once I reach my goal, I have to know what foods I can eat
in what quantities and learn how to integrate real-life events and occasions. What I'm learning on
WW is that weight loss is the classroom for me to learn what I need to know for the rest of my life.
Eating prepackaged and pre-portioned foods do nothing to teach me.

Read this NG for a while and you'll discover that each of us is finding what works for us--sometimes
by trial and error, sometimes by guesswork--all within the guidelines of WW. That's the genius of
WW. You can make it fit your life.

BTW, I don't attend WW meetings. I joined WW Online and use the online points tracker. I use this NG
for support and encouragement and accountability.

Prairie Roots
232/158.8/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

skiur said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done Jenny Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I
understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having a hard time
differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods.
It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain occurred
because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and I don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you have to
buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other than
the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

first welcome to this group, You don't have to buy anything special to work
the program, even though they do have some things that help some of us in
our efforts. you should be able to save a bit if you commit to the ten or
twelve week savings plan you get the meetings a bit cheaper. The food is
what YOU want to purchase from your market. if you don't want to purchase
more expensive items then don't. I actually think our overall food expenses
have gone down, and I can tell you I have saved loads on not purchasing
stomach remedies. The topics at our meetings have covered everything from
shoe size, to recipes, to new products to the fact that I wear A size panty
hose. Our leaders are open to questions and comments. The general topics,
the "lessons" if you will are on a cycle but our leaders at the center I
attend keep it fresh, some are, eating out, stress, goals, exercise,
nutrition/carbos/ fat and the like. binges, water, mother in laws and pets
taking your food have all been talked about. I wish you the best, I have
lost a total of 86.1 pounds since a year ago Sept 18 and all but 14.5 pounds
of that have been on WW and I will eat this way forever. It is not a diet,
it is how I eat, Lee
skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I understand that this was
an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain
occurred because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Welcome. Well, the others have probably covered it all in various ways.

You eat NORMAL foods that you buy at any market. You just learn how to portion it out so that you do
not overeat. As was said, buying premeasured/preweighed foods gives you no skill in managing
portions on your own. And if Jenny is intended to provide a kick or quick start, WW does it my
immediately immersing you in learning what to do and how to do it. You also learn that blowing it on
occasion is NOT the end of the world or the end of WW - just restart at the next meal or the next
day or when the vacation ends.

It works acceptionally well and teachs you NORMAL eating patterns so that your WOE and WOL match
those of fit and healthy individuals.

WW works:

Fred
219.2/157.6/164. (Lifetime July 2003) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

skiur said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done Jenny Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I
understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having a hard time
differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods.
It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain occurred
because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and I don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you have to
buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other than
the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Great post Lee. Almost (not quite) makes me wish I went to meetings!

Prairie Roots

Miss Violette said:

first welcome to this group, You don't have to buy anything special to work the program, even
though they do have some things that help some of us in our efforts. you should be able to save a
bit if you commit to the ten or twelve week savings plan you get the meetings a bit cheaper. The
food is what YOU want to purchase from your market. if you don't want to purchase more expensive
items then don't. I actually think our overall food expenses have gone down, and I can tell you I
have saved loads on not purchasing stomach remedies. The topics at our meetings have covered
everything from shoe size, to recipes, to new products to the fact that I wear A size panty hose.
Our leaders are open to questions and comments. The general topics, the "lessons" if you will are
on a cycle but our leaders at the center I attend keep it fresh, some are, eating out, stress,
goals, exercise, nutrition/carbos/ fat and the like. binges, water, mother in laws and pets taking
your food have all been talked about. I wish you the best, I have lost a total of 86.1 pounds since
a year ago Sept 18 and all but 14.5 pounds of that have been on WW and I will eat this way forever.
It is not a diet, it is how I eat, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zHSdnWSfurZuBbLdXTWc-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing (I understand that this
was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4 years to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain
occurred because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I might not stick with WW and I
don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money on yet another program". I'm too good at beating
myself up for "failing" and

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

To tell you the truth I am not by nature a joiner so it came as a real shock
that I enjoy them so much. I get something from whatever meeting I attend,
and I do prefer a particular leader. My favorite meeting is one that just
has the most outrageous people and it is extremely fun. I miss that group
but I can honestly say I don't ever invision a time when I only WI once a
month. It seems so natural to go. I have never missed a WI and only one
time did I do WI and leave the meeting early, I had to because of work but I
will never do that again. It was my worst week on WW emotionally. Lee
Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Great post Lee. Almost (not quite) makes me wish I went to meetings!

Prairie Roots

Miss Violette said:

first welcome to this group, You don't have to buy anything special to

work

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the program, even though they do have some things that help some of us in our efforts. you should
be able to save a bit if you commit to the ten

or

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

twelve week savings plan you get the meetings a bit cheaper. The food is what YOU want to
purchase from your market. if you don't want to

purchase

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

more expensive items then don't. I actually think our overall food

expenses

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have gone down, and I can tell you I have saved loads on not purchasing stomach remedies. The
topics at our meetings have covered everything

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

shoe size, to recipes, to new products to the fact that I wear A size

panty

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hose. Our leaders are open to questions and comments. The general

topics,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the "lessons" if you will are on a cycle but our leaders at the center I attend keep it fresh,
some are, eating out, stress, goals, exercise, nutrition/carbos/ fat and the like. binges, water,
mother in laws and

pets

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

taking your food have all been talked about. I wish you the best, I have lost a total of 86.1
pounds since a year ago Sept 18 and all but 14.5

pounds

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of that have been on WW and I will eat this way forever. It is not a

diet,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it is how I eat, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zHSdnWSfurZuBbLdXTWc-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life.
I want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable
WOE. I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm

having

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was

too

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me over 4

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Laura, I didn't know reg was free in the US. I think I'll check that out.

"Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5VPXb.4816$aH3.151898@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Quoted message said:

My registration was free too (until March 31 it is free in the usa)

I pay $12 per meeting but bought a $108 prepaid plan for 10 meetings.

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm

having

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was

too

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difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me over 4

years

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to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

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because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

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not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

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yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and

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I

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don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

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to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Kathy, Thanks for the info. I think that is what it costs here if I was reading correctly...I'll
check online again.

"Kathy Rip" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040215143234.18858.00002178@mb-
m28.aol.com...

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My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

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to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Hi Julie! I'll answer your questions and I'm sure others will too..

1) my registration was free when I joined r4 weeks ago. I pay $9.95 per

week

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and I get two passes every 6 months for when I am on vacation or can't go

to a

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meeting. I did buy the "dining out guide" for around $9-10 because I do

go out

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to eat a lot and I wanted to know the points. However you don't have to

buy

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that. The points are listed on the internet at places like www.dwlz.com

and

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www.dietfacts.com.

2)At the meetings you weigh-in, celebrations are done (lose 5 lbs get a bookmark, etc.), then we
talk about that weeks topic. At my meeting last

week

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was "dining out" and this week was "breakfast". My leader talked about

the

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importance of eating breakfast, low point breakfast ideas, etc.

3)I pretty much answered that in #2, but each week is a different topic.

Kathy

Great name!

Thank you for the newbie welcome. I saw the faq a bit earlier as I've been lurking for a few days,
uncertain if I should speak-up. Everyone has done a great job with the FAQ, it's quite extensive. A
friend at work told me about Dottie's site and I was checking it out Friday night trying to get a
clue as to how many points were in my favorite foods. *cringe*

Julie

"JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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Hi Julie from another Julie! WW is a great program - there are even a lot of people here who don't
go to meetings (if that's not your thing), so

it's

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flexible enough to suit your lifestyle. Others have answered your

specific

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questions, so I'll just add the official welcome notice. There's a lot of good info in there too.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of Life
(Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
angelfire.comrafl.htmOpen ↗

Other acronyms: wwlissa.com100+acronyms.htmOpen ↗

Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will

need

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less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system,

you

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will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used
throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a particular day. When your
weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once again drop
to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies, minimum
of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
zythra.compoints.exeOpen ↗

The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry over
from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints

to

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be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points
per day) or save them and use them for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are
earned based when exercising, but

can

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ONLY be used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans are
different. The UK and Australia/NZ

calculate

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points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on total fat
and total kilojoules. The desktop

calculator

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above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and knowledge
of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers show up to

post

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advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this
are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of

the

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regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try

if

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you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what works for him/herself. If
someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader, or
ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/159./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

Here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ and welcome notice:
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"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm

having

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was

too

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me over 4

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Hi Debbie,

We got a good set as Wedding presents (we're newlyweds). I think the Dining Out and the Complete
Food companions are key. I like the idea of not waiting in line...

I was wondering if the topics change daily or weekly. I'll keep that in mind and that way I can
check out the different group leaders, etc. I think that part would be beneficial.

Julie

"Deb in Northern California" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Hello Julie,

As others have stated there are only the registration (which is free sometimes, depending on the
time of year) and the weekly meeting fees. There is nothing else to buy at all. I would highly
recommend you have a food scale and good measuring cups and spoons to be successful though.
Sometimes you are not truly aware of what a portion size is until it is measured or weighed. You
learn over time what these are when you use your scale or measuring cups/spoons, but it is always
good to check as portions tend to creep up and that can be detrimental to your weight loss
efforts.

I

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know my center has a getting started package that includes the Dining Out Guide and also the
Complete Food Companion. These will help you a lot to determine portion sizes and point values.
There are also available to you in the WW center, cookbooks, WW magazine, 2 point snack bars,
smoothie mixes, pedometer, exercise videos/DVDs and other things to help you along your journey,
BUT none of them are required, the only think you are

required

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to pay is your weekly meeting fee. I highly recommend getting the 10 week block of coupons as you
normally get about $1 off per week buying them in advance, I also like it as you don't have to
wait in line to pay AND wait

in

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line to weigh. You can just go straight to the scale and weigh in.

The meetings are a support group. The topics change each week, typically the week runs Sunday-
Saturday, so the topic would be the same all week,

but

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different leaders offer different information based on their experience,

so

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if it is a particularly good topic, you could go to more than one meeting for just the one fee for
the week. There is so much to the group support, as everyone offers their experience in what they
do along this journey. I know there are weeks, when sometimes the topic is barely touched on as
someone is dealing with a situation that is difficult for them and we all offer our help with the
issue at hand. I know I love my group and all the members in it, we are like a big family and
support and help each other immensely. We do celebrations too, and like someone else mentioned,
they are 5 lb bookmark, then you get a star for ever 5 lbs lost after that,

then

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there is the 25 lb and 50 lb magnets, and also the 10% keychain, there is also the 16 weeks of
attendance charm and the other charms that are for reaching goal and then making lifetime. Of
course the ultimate goal is to be at lifetime so you can continue to attend meetings free of
charge as

long

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as you are no more than 2 lbs over your declared goal weight.

I love the program and highly recommend it. It is a real livable program that you can work around
any dietary needs you may have. If there is something you don't like, you don't have to have it,
if there is something you love, there are no restrictions as long as it fits with in your points
available to you. It is a livable plan, that you can follow for life.

Debbie

"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm

having

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was

too

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me over 4

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Lesanne,

Congratulations! You've come a long way. How long have you been on your journey?

I'm not a big fan of JC because of the aweful food and it being so expensive. It just wasn't worth
it to me. When I joined JC (ancient history), I thought that was going to be it and I was going to
lose weight. I did lose weight, but it was just too expensive and DH v.1 and I barely had the money
for me to join and pay for the weekly foods, etc. I also had a problem looking at what he was eating
and feeling like my food was just rabbit food.

Julie

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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First I have to say the WW and JC are totally different. I ate many of

the

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same foods on WW that I eat when I am eating exactly what I want to eat,

and

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not on any sort of WOE, or plan of any kind. I did begin to eat more like

I

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Wanted to eat (nutritionally), but made room for my favorites as well,

just

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not every day. I also have done every program there is, and find myself

now

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209 pounds less than my heaviest ever weight, and going to meetings for

free

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(on lifetime) when I need some extra motivation to stick with my healthy lifestyle. That said...

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My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

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to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)?

**ZERO, nothing, nada. You may buy some other things if you wish to, but you can do the program
perfectly well with the weekly meeting fee. I used to give myself little treats ( a new WW mug, a
magazine, a bracelet ) when

I

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lost 5 pounds.

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What happens at meetings other than the weekly weigh-in?

****They teach tools for living, and share experiences. You learn how

other

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people are succeeding and watch what messes other people up.

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What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

All kinds of things. They have a whole program of stuff. Some of the things that helped me this
time, were making a storyboard (a picture book

of

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where I was going) formulating a winning outcome, all kinds of stuff. Too much to put here.

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Thanks for answering my questions.

Anytime, I hope you join us 🙂!!

Lesanne
365/157.5/157.5

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Praire Roots,

You're doing really well, congratulations!

Yeah, the food was just aweful. I did learn what more "proper" portions look like, but I found that
I prefered more food than the extra sauces-ick.

I'll consider the online program. It looks like the calculators are useful and I think it would be
nice to see efforts online.

Julie

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I've never tried Jenny Craig so I can't speak from personal experience about the program. But
straight from the Jenny Craig Web site, here's why I won't consider it: "Jenny's delicious cuisine
offers satisfying, nutritious and convenient meals and snacks that take the guesswork out of
calorie counting, portion control and nutritional balance."

In order for me to maintain my weight loss once I reach my goal, I have to know what foods I can
eat in what quantities and learn how to integrate real-life events and occasions. What I'm
learning on WW is that weight loss is the classroom for me to learn what I need to know for the
rest of my life. Eating prepackaged and pre-portioned foods do nothing to teach me.

Read this NG for a while and you'll discover that each of us is finding what works for us--
sometimes by trial and error, sometimes by guesswork--all within the guidelines of WW. That's the
genius of WW. You can make it fit your life.

BTW, I don't attend WW meetings. I joined WW Online and use the online points tracker. I use this
NG for support and encouragement and accountability.

Prairie Roots
232/158.8/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

skiur said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Lee,

That's wonderful! I'm amazed a the amount of progress that I see in what I consider a short time
period. A year doesn't seem like a whole lot of time when you really think about it, but getting to
that year is something else.

Julie

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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first welcome to this group, You don't have to buy anything special to

work

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the program, even though they do have some things that help some of us in our efforts. you should
be able to save a bit if you commit to the ten or twelve week savings plan you get the meetings a
bit cheaper. The food is what YOU want to purchase from your market. if you don't want to purchase
more expensive items then don't. I actually think our overall food

expenses

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have gone down, and I can tell you I have saved loads on not purchasing stomach remedies. The
topics at our meetings have covered everything from shoe size, to recipes, to new products to the
fact that I wear A size

panty

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hose. Our leaders are open to questions and comments. The general

topics,

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the "lessons" if you will are on a cycle but our leaders at the center I attend keep it fresh,
some are, eating out, stress, goals, exercise, nutrition/carbos/ fat and the like. binges, water,
mother in laws and

pets

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taking your food have all been talked about. I wish you the best, I have lost a total of 86.1
pounds since a year ago Sept 18 and all but 14.5

pounds

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of that have been on WW and I will eat this way forever. It is not a

diet,

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it is how I eat, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:zHSdnWSfurZuBbLdXTWc-
[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm

having

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was

too

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me over 4

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

Fred,

Great job on your numbers!

I get really hung up about blowing it-I tend to blow it on occassion and then I beat myself up. It's
a habit I need to break.

Julie

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Welcome. Well, the others have probably covered it all in various ways.

You eat NORMAL foods that you buy at any market. You just learn how to portion it out so that you
do not overeat. As was said, buying premeasured/preweighed foods gives you no skill in managing
portions on your own. And if Jenny is intended to provide a kick or quick start, WW does it my
immediately immersing you in learning what to do and how to do it. You also learn that blowing it
on occasion is NOT the end of the world or the end of WW - just restart at the next meal or the
next day or when the vacation ends.

It works acceptionally well and teachs you NORMAL eating patterns so that your WOE and WOL match
those of fit and healthy individuals.

WW works:

Fred
219.2/157.6/164. (Lifetime July 2003) Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

skiur said:

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life. I
want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable WOE.
I've done

Jenny

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm having

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was too difficult to maintain and I missed certain
foods. It took me over 4

years

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

and I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie

If you want to control your weight and get to "normal" you do have to face the fact that what were
favorite foods will have to shrink in portion sizes, at least. It is one of those adult moves we
need to deal with (G)

Best

skiur said:

Great name!

Thank you for the newbie welcome. I saw the faq a bit earlier as I've been lurking for a few days,
uncertain if I should speak-up. Everyone has done a great job with the FAQ, it's quite extensive. A
friend at work told me about Dottie's site and I was checking it out Friday night trying to get a
clue as to how many points were in my favorite foods. *cringe*

Julie

"JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Hi Julie from another Julie! WW is a great program - there are even a lot of people here who
don't go to meetings (if that's not your thing), so

it's

Quoted message said:

flexible enough to suit your lifestyle. Others have answered your

specific

Quoted message said:

questions, so I'll just add the official welcome notice. There's a lot of good info in there too.

Welcome to this great newsgroup where you'll receive lots of support, advice, and encouragement.
Once a week on Sundays, I post a list of links that newcomers to asdww might find useful. You may
want to look for that later in the week, or do a backwards search for last Sunday's post.

In the meantime, here's our FAQ: didian.comasdwwOpen ↗ our welcome notice:
geocities.comindex.htmlOpen ↗

Frequently seen acronyms on this NG: NSV = Non-Scale Victory WOE = Way of Eating WOL = Way of
Life (Living) OP = on Points or On Program DH = Dear or Darling Husband
DS/DD/DGD/etc = Dear or Darling Son, Daughter, Granddaughter, etc WI = Weigh-in

Amberle3's Challenges:

THTP - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htmOpen ↗

RafL - Resolutions are for Losers Weight Loss Challenge:
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Here's a short synopsis of the USA program by Joyce -

How many points you can eat is only based on your current weight, as you lose weight those points
allowed will decrease (logic is that your body will

need

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less to operate). At 183 pounds and based on the new US flexpoints system,

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will have a set point target of 24. In addition to this you are allowed 35 flexpoints to be used
throughout the week ... as well as any activity points you earn on a particular day. When your
weight drops to 175, your target drops to 22 points ... weight reaches 150, target once again
drop to 20 points. 3 servings of dairy of recommended per day, 5 servings of fruit and veggies,
minimum of 6 glasses of water.

To calculate food and activity points, I love this computer desktop calculator ...
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The basic plan is easy. Eat at least your minimum daily number of points. Points do not carry
over from day to day. You are allotted 35 weekly flexpoints

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be used at your discretion ... can divide them up and use daily (would be an additional 5 points
per day) or save them and use them for a special occassion during the week. Activity points are
earned based when exercising, but

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ONLY be used on the day they are earned.

If you can afford $15/month, the online ww program might be a great thing for you to look into.
There is lots of information available, as well as the food point database and journaling system.

Joyce WW starting weight: 228.8 - 2/5/02 current weight: 133.3 Lifetime: 4/4/03

Please note that if you live in onther countries (UK, Australia, NZ, Europe), the Points plans
are different. The UK and Australia/NZ

calculate

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points based on saturated fat and total kilojoules. Most of Europe calculates based on total fat
and total kilojoules. The desktop

calculator

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above can handle all of these programs.

Disclaimer: As an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, asdww is unusual in that most of the people who
participate are respectful, considerate folks who freely share their experience with and
knowledge of WW, weight loss, and maintenance. Yet occasionally, spammers, trolls, and flamers
show up to

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advertising, false information, insults, and the like. Nearly all of the time, people like this
are just trying to yank someone's chain. Most of

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regulars on this newsgroup offer their experience as a suggestion to try

if

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you're stuck, but are quick to advise that each person has to find what works for him/herself. If
someone posts something that doesn't sound right to you, ask the newsgroup, ask your WW leader,
or ask your health professional.

Much success on your weight loss journey! WW works!

--
Julie.
93.5/72.3/74 (WW)/72 (Personal) kg
205.7/159./162.8 (WW)/158 (Personal) lb

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"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this ng, but not new to dieting. I've needed to lose a "few pounds" my entire life.
I want to change my WOE for a healthier WOL-including exercise. I'm looking for a sustainable
WOE. I've done

Jenny

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Craig, it was too expensive. In my mind, WW and JC were the same thing

(I

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understand that this was an old stereotype from years ago, but I'm

having

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hard time differentiating the two).

In the past when I've changed my WOE, I've been very single-minded in weightloss efforts and
working out. The short version is that it was

too

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difficult to maintain and I missed certain foods. It took me over 4

years

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to get back to the weight where I started to LC. The weight gain

occurred

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because I stopped paying attention to what I ate.

I know that following a WOE comes from within. I'm concerned that I

might

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not stick with WW and I don't want to beat myself up for "wasting money

on

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yet another program". I'm too good at beating myself up for "failing"

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I

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don't need to do that to myself.

My questions are: Other than registration fees and weekly meeting fees, what else do you

have

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to buy to start the program and how much is it (approximately)? What happens at meetings other
than the weekly weigh-in? What types of topics are on offer for discussion?

Thanks for answering my questions.

Julie