Strock and Kaiter settle?

mtb Dad said:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10871.0.html

Help me out here. If they had a case, why would they settle? Is it
that difficult to get a decision from a jury? I thought Strock was
doing this on principle. Is this as good as an admission of guilt by
USA cycling and Wenzel?

I heard $125,000 each. Lawyers and taxes take is around $85,000.

Duped (but a good listener)

mtb Dad said:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10871.0.html

Help me out here. If they had a case, why would they settle? Is it
that difficult to get a decision from a jury? I thought Strock was
doing this on principle. Is this as good as an admission of guilt by
USA cycling and Wenzel?

It isn't an admission of anything by anyone other than that they want the
lawyers to get paid and this mess to go away.

Ron

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mtb Dad said:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10871.0.html

Help me out here. If they had a case, why would they settle? Is it
that difficult to get a decision from a jury? I thought Strock was
doing this on principle. Is this as good as an admission of guilt by
USA cycling and Wenzel?

It isn't an admission of anything by anyone other than that they want the
lawyers to get paid and this mess to go away.

Ron

True that it isn't an admission by anyone of having done anything improper.
What hadn't realized was that the defendants lost their motion to dismiss
and were faced with a jury trial. The plaintiff's had a causality problem
if they went to trial. The defendants at a jury trial, would be trying a
case in a current national climate where virtually every potential juror
would be aware of the problem of drugs in sport and cycling in particular
making the plaintiff's case easier (even if subjectively) to believe. So,
both sides had reasons to settle. We'll find out the monetary terms from
USAC's tax filings.

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mtb Dad said:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10871.0.html

Help me out here. If they had a case, why would they settle? Is it
that difficult to get a decision from a jury? I thought Strock was
doing this on principle. Is this as good as an admission of guilt by
USA cycling and Wenzel?

I heard $125,000 each. Lawyers and taxes take is around $85,000.

Duped (but a good listener)

Which places the price of principle @ ~40K. Which is why so few of us
can afford that luxury.

B. Lafferty said:

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mtb Dad said:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10871.0.html

Help me out here. If they had a case, why would they settle? Is it
that difficult to get a decision from a jury? I thought Strock was
doing this on principle. Is this as good as an admission of guilt by
USA cycling and Wenzel?

It isn't an admission of anything by anyone other than that they want the
lawyers to get paid and this mess to go away.

Ron

True that it isn't an admission by anyone of having done anything improper.
What hadn't realized was that the defendants lost their motion to dismiss
and were faced with a jury trial. The plaintiff's had a causality problem
if they went to trial. The defendants at a jury trial, would be trying a
case in a current national climate where virtually every potential juror
would be aware of the problem of drugs in sport and cycling in particular
making the plaintiff's case easier (even if subjectively) to believe. So,
both sides had reasons to settle. We'll find out the monetary terms from
USAC's tax filings.

Thanks

They probably wanted some accountability rather than chance an
'acquital'. Carmichael settled early just to get it out of sight.
This surely can't help Wenzel's coaching biz.
CH

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mtb Dad said:

http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10871.0.html

Help me out here. If they had a case, why would they settle? Is it
that difficult to get a decision from a jury? I thought Strock was
doing this on principle. Is this as good as an admission of guilt by
USA cycling and Wenzel?

It isn't an admission of anything by anyone other than that they want the
lawyers to get paid and this mess to go away.

Ron

True that it isn't an admission by anyone of having done anything improper.
What hadn't realized was that the defendants lost their motion to dismiss
and were faced with a jury trial. The plaintiff's had a causality problem
if they went to trial. The defendants at a jury trial, would be trying a
case in a current national climate where virtually every potential juror
would be aware of the problem of drugs in sport and cycling in particular
making the plaintiff's case easier (even if subjectively) to believe. So,
both sides had reasons to settle. We'll find out the monetary terms from
USAC's tax filings.

Quoted message said:

They probably wanted some accountability rather than chance an
'acquital'. Carmichael settled early just to get it out of sight.
This surely can't help Wenzel's coaching biz.

Dumbass -

Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Rene Wenzel - "Professional Coach and Saucier"

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Quoted message said:

They probably wanted some accountability rather than chance an
'acquital'. Carmichael settled early just to get it out of sight.
This surely can't help Wenzel's coaching biz.

Dumbass -

Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Quoted message said:

Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

Matt C said:

Rene Wenzel - "Professional Coach and Saucier"

Sauceror ?

"Sauceror?"

No, I meant Saucier. I'm not a gamer nor a fat-dumbass.
Next time you encounter an unfamiliar word, try a dictionary.

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

Quoted message said:

Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

Matt C said:

Rene Wenzel - "Professional Coach and Saucier"

Sauceror ?

Matt C said:

"Sauceror?"

No, I meant Saucier. I'm not a gamer nor a fat-dumbass.
Next time you encounter an unfamiliar word, try a dictionary.

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Kurgan Gringioni said:

> Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
> may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

Matt C said:

Rene Wenzel - "Professional Coach and Saucier"

Sauceror ?

Whoosh

In article <rC8Pg.17833$xk3.1663@dukeread07>,

Matt C said:

"Sauceror?"

No, I meant Saucier. I'm not a gamer nor a fat-dumbass.
Next time you encounter an unfamiliar word, try a dictionary.

Know your interlocutor before criticizing his grammar.

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Quoted message said:

Kurgan Gringioni said:

> Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
> may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

Matt C said:

Rene Wenzel - "Professional Coach and Saucier"

Sauceror ?

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

In article <rC8Pg.17833$xk3.1663@dukeread07>,

Matt C said:

"Sauceror?"

No, I meant Saucier. I'm not a gamer nor a fat-dumbass.
Next time you encounter an unfamiliar word, try a dictionary.

Know your interlocutor before criticizing his grammar.

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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>> Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
>> may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

Matt C wrote:
> Rene Wenzel - "Professional Coach and Saucier"

Sauceror ?

--
Michael Press

Morons R Us hold their RBR tryouts as newbies jump in with NO clue.
It's like the Jim Rome show, and Carlos Mencia, you need to watch for
a while to avoid making an ass of yourself.
Bill C

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Quoted message said:

They probably wanted some accountability rather than chance an
'acquital'. Carmichael settled early just to get it out of sight.
This surely can't help Wenzel's coaching biz.

Dumbass -

Has it occured to you that it may have the opposite effect? Some riders
may want coaches who have knowledge of the special sauces.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Dumbass,

People don't want to hire a coach whose doping program makes people so
sick that they must quit the sport. Carmichael has been wise enough to
position his coaching biz towards fattie masters riders and handing out
schedules yanked from page 53 of Eddie B's book (for a few hundred
bucks a month). Coaching people like Armstrong is a risky undertaking.