Strobe

halftone175 said:

I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available
Zenon Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?
southwestpublicsafety.comligcombikstr.htmlOpen ↗ There was another I looked at once that
had yellow white and red all in one strobe but I cannot seem to find the website now. Thanks Ray

You can't see the Lightman in bright daylight, if you want to attract attention then with it. I
tried on (white) on my Tanjor trailer lodrag.comlodrag.comOpen ↗ to warn that it sticks out a little more
into traffic than a solo bicycle, but walking back to look at it, it's nothing that you'd see if you
weren't already looking for it.

A real daylight strobe takes more power than two AA's can supply, probably.
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I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available
Zenon Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?

the liteman is a good light I have a red in back. it has good side to side visibility. the bad part
is with good rechargables you get about 3 hours os so at most out of it. so I have to change the
batteries every two rides.

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There was another I looked at once that had yellow white and red all in one strobe but I cannot
seem to find the website now. Thanks Ray

that's the sparky. largoscooters.comsparky.htmlOpen ↗ far longer battery life but it does not have
good side visibility.more then LEDs but less then the liteman.

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You can't see the Lightman in bright daylight, if you want to attract attention then with it. I
tried on (white) on my Tanjor trailer lodrag.comlodrag.comOpen ↗ to warn that it sticks out a little
more into traffic than a solo bicycle, but walking back to look at it, it's nothing that you'd see
if you weren't already looking for it.

true if it is real bright but in fog and such it is fine. you can get a 12v version of it too.

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You can't see the Lightman in bright daylight, if you want to attract

attention then

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with it. I tried on (white) on my Tanjor trailer lodrag.comlodrag.comOpen ↗ to

warn that

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it sticks out a little more into traffic than a solo bicycle, but walking

back to

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look at it, it's nothing that you'd see if you weren't already looking for

it.

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A real daylight strobe takes more power than two AA's can supply,

probably.

True. But there are several 12 volt strobes available that are suitable for bicycle use/ For
daytime, a Flash Flag is probably as good as a strobe in terms of attracting attention.

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I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available Zenon
Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?
southwestpublicsafety.comligcombikstr.htmlOpen ↗ There was another I looked at once that had
yellow white and red all in one strobe but I cannot seem to find the website now. Thanks Ray

pass. if you look at the strobes on utility/emergency vehicles, each "flash" is 4-5 fires of the
strobe to overcome the limitation of the short, .01-sec duration. you won't find this feature on
a battery powered unit. i think the NiteRider taillight is wonderful.

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i think the NiteRider taillight is wonderful.

now if I just had 12v to run it on. my lighting is 18v.

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Steve Knight said:

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i think the NiteRider taillight is wonderful.

now if I just had 12v to run it on. my lighting is 18v.

Use an LM7812 or 7-8 1N4001 diodes in series (0.7V drop per diode). The current is low, so it's not
a big deal to use a linear regulator or diodes; the losses will be minimal.

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i think the NiteRider taillight is wonderful.

now if I just had 12v to run it on. my lighting is 18v.

chk the 'BikeCurrent' list. i think read the NR can handle the >>12-V input.

halftone175 said:

There was another I looked at once that had yellow white and red all in one strobe but I cannot
seem to find the website now.

It seems most unwise to combine the conventional front and rear light colours (and the "stopped
vehicle" colour) in one light. Where are you going to mount it?
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Use an LM7812 or 7-8 1N4001 diodes in series (0.7V drop per diode). The current is low, so it's not
a big deal to use a linear regulator or diodes; the losses will be minimal.

I am no great guy at electrical. but I just solder them inline to get the right voltage right? I
would need 8 total. can I put 4 per each leg of the power?

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halftone175 said:

I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available
Zenon Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?

I just received a Highway Safety Light from www.firstratesecurity.com, this is it here:

store.firstratesecurity.comhigsaflig.htmlOpen ↗

very inexpensive (even with shipping to Canada). You have to come up with a mounting bracket
yourself as the device is meant to be used by cars and trucks. I have fashioned a bracket to hold it
on to my winter bike. The thing is absolutely the brightest thing I have seen, it hurts the eyes to
look at it during daylight it when it is blinking. It runs on 4 AA batteries. Google "Highway Safety
Light" for more sources.

If you want something very similar but ready-to-mount on a bike, see Sheldon Brown's site, he sells
something called a Reallite, sheldonbrown.comrealliteOpen ↗

(Actually I think they are very very similar, see
dtovey.netindex.htmlOpen ↗)

I've read all over that this thing is bright, very bright, and oh-so-very bright, yeah right, but
when I got the thing and turned it on, I really must say that it is so incredibly bright, you gotta
see the thing. You can't look at it, it just hurts the eyes too much. I read on the BikeCurrent
mailing list that flash rate is 1.1 Hz and intensity is 60 candelas.

It is much bigger than my Lightman xenon strobe I'm also using, purchased from Nightsun a long time
ago, it's the 3 volt version, and after reading about how red lenses reduce the visibility of xenon
strobes (recommended lens colors are clear, amber, blue), see
search.bikelist.orggetmsg.aspOpen ↗, I decided to use a blue
lens. Of course you can't really compare the Reallite measuring 4 inches by 6 inches and 18 LEDs to
the Lightman strobe, the Reallite just kills the strobe, I mean, it lights up the room literally, it
overpowers the strobe. Keep in mind that is not scientific at all, and with measuring equipment I
may be proved wrong.

I replaced the Lightman strobe with this Reallite clone in the back and my Nightsun XC in the front
and I'm quite happy.

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halftone175 said:

I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available
Zenon Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?

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You can't see the Lightman in bright daylight, if you want to attract attention then

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A real daylight strobe takes more power than two AA's can supply, probably.

I use xenon strobe modules which are weatherproof and easily mounted, also fairly cheap:

see webstersabingdon.plus.comP1010019.JPGOpen ↗ and
webstersabingdon.plus.comP1010020.JPGOpen ↗

Excellent side visibility, visible in daylight, run for 10 hrs+ on 10 AA NiMh rechargeables (in
frame bag). An excellent adjunct to a non-flashing light.

Andrew Webster

Paul Giroux said:

I've read all over that this thing is bright, very bright, and oh-so-very bright, yeah right, but
when I got the thing and turned it on, I really must say that it is so incredibly bright, you gotta
see the thing. You can't look at it, it just hurts the eyes too much.

I don't know about you, but _I_ mount lights in order that motorists _will_ look at me.
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David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

This light looks way to big to look good on a nice road bike. I do like the size of the night rider
light but I was told it would not work with my trail rat. I want to keep the light on the small side
to look good That is why I was considering the zenon strobes. It looks like I will end up with a
nebula or something Of well

Paul Giroux said:

halftone175 said:

I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available
Zenon Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?

I just received a Highway Safety Light from www.firstratesecurity.com, this is it here:

store.firstratesecurity.comhigsaflig.htmlOpen ↗

very inexpensive (even with shipping to Canada). You have to come up with a mounting bracket
yourself as the device is meant to be used by cars and trucks. I have fashioned a bracket to hold
it on to my winter bike. The thing is absolutely the brightest thing I have seen, it hurts the
eyes to look at it during daylight it when it is blinking. It runs on 4 AA batteries. Google
"Highway Safety Light" for more sources.

If you want something very similar but ready-to-mount on a bike, see Sheldon Brown's site, he
sells something called a Reallite, sheldonbrown.comrealliteOpen ↗

(Actually I think they are very very similar, see
dtovey.netindex.htmlOpen ↗)

I've read all over that this thing is bright, very bright, and oh-so-very bright, yeah right, but
when I got the thing and turned it on, I really must say that it is so incredibly bright, you
gotta see the thing. You can't look at it, it just hurts the eyes too much. I read on the
BikeCurrent mailing list that flash rate is 1.1 Hz and intensity is 60 candelas.

It is much bigger than my Lightman xenon strobe I'm also using, purchased from Nightsun a long
time ago, it's the 3 volt version, and after reading about how red lenses reduce the visibility of
xenon strobes (recommended lens colors are clear, amber, blue), see
search.bikelist.orggetmsg.aspOpen ↗, I decided to use a blue
lens. Of course you can't really compare the Reallite measuring 4 inches by 6 inches and 18 LEDs
to the Lightman strobe, the Reallite just kills the strobe, I mean, it lights up the room
literally, it overpowers the strobe. Keep in mind that is not scientific at all, and with
measuring equipment I may be proved wrong.

I replaced the Lightman strobe with this Reallite clone in the back and my Nightsun XC in the
front and I'm quite happy.

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It seems most unwise to combine the conventional front and rear light colours (and the "stopped
vehicle" colour) in one light. Where are you going to mount it?

you can choose one two or three colors and nay combo. so you can have a red in back and
white in front.

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Where do you get one of these? And how do you have them hooked up? RAy

Andrew Webster said:

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halftone175 said:

I am going to get some new lights . I am wondering if any one has tried any of the available
Zenon Strobe likes like the one linked below or perhaps something better?

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Quoted message said:

You can't see the Lightman in bright daylight, if you want to attract attention then

<cut>

Quoted message said:

A real daylight strobe takes more power than two AA's can supply, probably.

I use xenon strobe modules which are weatherproof and easily mounted, also fairly cheap:

see webstersabingdon.plus.comP1010019.JPGOpen ↗ and
webstersabingdon.plus.comP1010020.JPGOpen ↗

Excellent side visibility, visible in daylight, run for 10 hrs+ on 10 AA NiMh rechargeables (in
frame bag). An excellent adjunct to a non-flashing light.

Andrew Webster

Steve Knight said:

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It seems most unwise to combine the conventional front and rear light colours (and the "stopped
vehicle" colour) in one light. Where are you going to mount it?

you can choose one two or three colors and nay combo. so you can have a red in back and white
in front.

Oh, I see. If you can get rid of the amber "stopped vehicle" flasher and produce a steady white
light for riding in the dark, then I guess this doesn't seem so bad.
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Where do you get one of these? And how do you have them hooked up? RAy

halftone175 said:

Where do you get one of these? And how do you have them hooked up? RAy

They are sold by All Electronics.

"allelectronics.comcategory.cgiOpen ↗"

You hook them up to a 12 volt battery. Sealed lead-acid, or ten 1.2V NiMH cells. If you already are
using a 12 volt lighting system then you don't need another battery.

You could use the Lenmar 1020 ten pack of AA NiMH cells, and get set up for about $20 total, plus
tax and shipping, if you already have an AA NiMH charger.

A 10 AA battery holder is the Philmore Model BH3103 and can be found at: "minute-minute-Open ↗
man.com/acatalog/AA_Cell_Holders.html"

Fairly easy to mount to the back of a rear rack with the use of a short piece of flexible steel
banding with two holes drilled into it. See my web site for details, bicyclelighting.combicyclelighting.comOpen ↗.

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Use an LM7812 or 7-8 1N4001 diodes in series (0.7V drop per diode). The current is low, so it's
not a big deal to use a linear regulator or

diodes;

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the losses will be minimal.

I am no great guy at electrical. but I just solder them inline to get the

right

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voltage right? I would need 8 total. can I put 4 per each leg of the

power?

Yes, you can put four on each side, though why bother?

Polarity matters on diodes, and they will be marked.

Just snip the leads short, solder them together, enclose in a piece of heat shrink tubing along the
length of the wire running to the strobe.

With 7 you'd be at about 13.1V, with 8 you'd be at about 12.4V. Either is okay. You'll get a faster
flash rate at the higher voltage. 13.8V (six diodes) is probably still okay, after all, car
electrical systems are about
13.8V in reality, a 12V car battery consists of six cells, each about 2.3V.

+ ------|>|-------|>|-------|>|-------|>|------- + of Strobe

18V Battery

- ------|<|-------|<|-------|<|-------|<|------- - of Strobe

Or use a single LM7812, Radio Shack Catalog #: 276-1771

In 12V Out
+ -----| LM7812 |-------------- + of Strobe
|
18V | GND
|
- ----------------------------------- - of Strobe

The strobe draws about 150mA, which is so low that you don't need to worry about any heat sinks.
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