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  1. I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
    ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise the
    final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
    future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as they
    may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be admitted
    that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome is in
    evolution.
    --
    Sandy
    Verneuil-sur-Seine
    *******

    La vie, c'est comme une bicyclette,
    il faut avancer pour ne pas perdre l'équilibre.
    -- Einstein, A.

  2. Sandy said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
    ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise the
    final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
    future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as they
    may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be admitted
    that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome is in
    evolution.

    So, which is the better launch for a rant; Stalinist photo editing to remove the
    offender or the ancient Pharoah having the heretic's name chiselled from the
    monuments?

    Hell, let's just go with both and point out that both Stalin and the Pharoah
    look silly now.

    Ron

  3. Sandy said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
    ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise the
    final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
    future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as they
    may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be admitted
    that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome is in
    evolution.

    If they're all dopers, the record books must be wiped clean from the
    moment they all signed the loyalty oath and pledged a year's salary to
    the War on Doping.

    Wait a minute-- some didn't sign, and some didn't admit to past sins
    and crimes.

    Well, let this be a lesson for any who are thinking about coming clean
    (so to speak):

    "It's gonna cost you".

    The panties-up yankers are in power, beware! --D-y

  4. Sandy said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
    ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
    goose is no longer a gander.

  5. On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:23:00 +0200, Donald Munro <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Sandy said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
    ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
    goose is no longer a gander.

    The question is more whether une jars is a gander.

    Ron

  6. ASO only strips jerseys from non-Frenchmen.

    ~bob s.

    Donald Munro said:
    Sandy said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased by
    ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
    goose is no longer a gander.

  7. Dans le message de news:[email hidden],
    bob sullivan <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    ASO only strips jerseys from non-Frenchmen.

    ~bob s.

    Donald Munro said:
    Sandy said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be
    erased by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a
    male goose is no longer a gander.

    Well done on two counts.

    Showing you are incapable of following a thought.
    Putting a spotlight on your cosmopolitain attitude

    Do you always slum in July?
    --
    --
    Sandy

    --
    Si les autres parties du monde ont des singes ; l'Europe a des Français.
    Cela se compense.
    [Arthur Schopenhauer]

  8. Wow, a little touchy there, Sandy. Is it not true that Virenque
    doped? And is it not true that it doesn't matter to the majority
    of French fans that he doped, that he's still considered a hero
    of Le Tour?

    C'est vrai.

    ~bob s.

    Sandy said:

    Dans le message de news:[email hidden],
    bob sullivan <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

    Quoted message said:

    ASO only strips jerseys from non-Frenchmen.

    ~bob s.

    Donald Munro said:

    Sandy wrote:

    > I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be
    > erased by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.
    What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a
    male goose is no longer a gander.

    Well done on two counts.

    Showing you are incapable of following a thought.
    Putting a spotlight on your cosmopolitain attitude

    Do you always slum in July?

  9. in message <[email hidden]>, Sandy

    (') said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased
    by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise
    the
    final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
    future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as
    they may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
    admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
    is in evolution.

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Wannabe a Web designer?
    <URL:http://userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/97dec/19971206.html>

  10. Donald Munro said:
    Quoted message said:

    What about Virenque's jerseys from the nineties, unless of course a male
    goose is no longer a gander.

    RonSonic said:

    The question is more whether une jars is a gander.

    To put it in terms a fatty master would like, it all comes down to
    whether you prefer foie gras to andoulette.

  11. Donald Munro said:

    To put it in terms a fatty master would like, it all comes down to
    whether you prefer foie gras to andoulette.

    Or in the case of Mr Sullivan, une andouille.

  12. Simon Brooke said:
    Sandy (') said:

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
    admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
    is in evolution.

    There is no such thing as evolution, just Intelligent Design which
    started 6000 years ago with Adam and Eve and Buddha, who was stripped
    of his title for mushrooming into Nirvana.

    Quoted message said:

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.

    Ummm.....Photoshop?

    R

  13. RicodJour said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    Sandy ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
    admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
    is in evolution.

    There is no such thing as evolution, just Intelligent Design which
    started 6000 years ago with Adam and Eve and Buddha, who was stripped
    of his title for mushrooming into Nirvana.

    Budda is a fatty master who is half naked and worshipped. Life is
    strange.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.

    The painting wasn't the part that hurt most.

  14. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Sandy

    (') said:

    I just heard on France2 that Zabel's green jersey for 1996 will be erased
    by ASO in their history due to the doping admission.

    I wondered where a promoter of a UCI race arrogates the power to revise
    the
    final standings of an approved race. It seems that if one looks, in the
    future, to see who did what, then the only official records are UCI, as
    they may decide to annotate, but not that of the promoter.

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
    admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
    is in evolution.

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.

    So some pictures will have fans and maybe support vehicles, but no
    racers in them?

    Sweeet!

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  15. On Jul 13, 3:50 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:13:39 +0100, Simon Brooke

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This rewriting of history is getting really silly. But it must be
    admitted that politically correct originates here, so I guess the outcome
    is in evolution.

    Quoted message said:

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.

    So some pictures will have fans and maybe support vehicles, but no
    racers in them?

    Sweeet!

    They'll have retroactive testing for the fans and
    support vehicles too. If you drank a thermos of
    coffee to stay awake after driving all night to
    reach the Tourmalet, or if you violated caravan
    rules in your team car, that same software that
    paints the virtual ads on the soccer pitch and
    the banners at the edge of the field can just as
    easily be used to erase you from the picture.

    On the bright side, Prudhomme has figured out that
    he can use Photoshop to put LANCE's face on the body
    of Eric-the-guy-who-tackled-Guerini.

    Ben

  16. bob sullivan said:

    Wow, a little touchy there, Sandy. Is it not true that Virenque
    doped? And is it not true that it doesn't matter to the majority
    of French fans that he doped, that he's still considered a hero
    of Le Tour?

    Quoted message said:

    C'est vrai.

    Quoted message said:

    ~bob s.

    Wasn't Virenque ejected the 'year' he doped? Strictly
    speaking they are only taking one of Zabels jerseys not
    the lot. You could apply that logic to it.

  17. SLAVE of THE STATE said:

    Budda is a fatty master who is half naked and worshipped. Life is
    strange.

    Don't tell the fatty masters or they'll all convert to Buddhism.

  18. "Donald Munro" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Donald Munro wrote:
    To put it in terms a fatty master would like, it all comes down to
    whether you prefer foie gras to andoulette.

    I accidentally ordered andoulette in Grenoble once....sure wish I had
    ordered foie fras.

  19. RicodJour said:
    Quoted message said:

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like Stalin.

    Ummm.....Photoshop?

    The Soviets invented Photoshop, you know.

  20. in message <[email hidden]>, Fred Fredburger

    (') said:
    RicodJour said:
    Quoted message said:

    They'll be painting people out of the official photos next, like
    Stalin.

    Ummm.....Photoshop?

    The Soviets invented Photoshop, you know.

    As in "in Soviet Russia, the Government photoshops you..."

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; "If I were a Microsoft Public Relations person, I would probably
    ;; be sobbing on a desk right now" -- Rob Miller, editor, /.

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