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  1. I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until then-
    here's the question: What the characteristics of stress
    fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit when
    running, but can compensate with a slight change in stride.
    The pain isn't bad.

    I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the area
    is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the pain is
    worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and start
    walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy pace).
    The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the start.
    Once I started running, it felt very slight- really just a
    dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more pain
    when walking.

    So~ stress fracture or something else?

    Thanks...

  2. I'm not an expert, but had done some readings on injury because I'm
    having problems with my right shin.
    From what I read, I guess you don't have stress fracture because you
    feel worst when waking up. Take a look at this article on runner's world
    website:
    runnersworld.com0,1300,1 78 79 529,FF.html

    Note in the paragraph about stress fracture a doctor says
    that "Usually stress fractures feel better in the morning
    because you've rested the bone all night."

    bikeme said:

    I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
    then- here's the question: What the characteristics of
    stress fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit
    when running, but can compensate with a slight change in
    stride. The pain isn't bad.

    I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
    area is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the
    pain is worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and
    start walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy
    pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the
    start. Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
    just a dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more
    pain when walking.

    So~ stress fracture or something else?

    Thanks...

  3. In article TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06 said:

    I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
    then- here's the question: What the characteristics of
    stress fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit
    when running, but can compensate with a slight change in
    stride. The pain isn't bad.

    I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
    area is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the
    pain is worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and
    start walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy
    pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the
    start. Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
    just a dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more
    pain when walking.

    So~ stress fracture or something else?

    Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound much
    like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should get worse
    as you run, whereas pain from soft tissue injuries
    attenuates as the run progresses. Your description of the
    pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and generally
    fading during the run is also the way soft tissue injuries
    (tendons) work. Surprisingly, shin splints can involve sharp
    jolting pain.

    Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days off,
    say 3 days or so. See if you can run without pain after
    that. I had a problem with shin splints once and the problem
    was out the way in less than a week because I took the
    bitter bill of downtime early.

    Once you return to training, you will need to take a good
    hard look at your program and work out what caused the
    problem. Running too fast or too much speed work, and too-much-too-
    soon are leading causes of shin splints.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  4. Thank you so much for the replies.

    I have been doing some stupid things in my training. For
    instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I felt so
    good I allowed it to become a long run, even doing speedwork
    again towards the end of the run (12-15 mile runs). Not a
    good thing to combine both.

    Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then I ran
    another 4 on hills with a friend in the afternoon. And-
    instead of resting the next day, I did another six-miler in
    the morning. Yeah- I needed this reminder that I'm far from
    bulletproof.

    I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on the bike
    or something (low gear) and see how it goes.

    Thanks again!

    "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
    : wrote:
    : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
    : > then- here's
    the
    : > question: What the characteristics of stress fracture? I
    : > can feel pain
    in
    : > my right shin a bit when running, but can compensate
    : > with a slight
    change in
    : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
    : >
    : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
    : > area is all that
    sore
    : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst when I
    : > first wake up
    and
    : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was very
    : > short run (3 miles easy pace). The pain the shin was
    : > sharp as I was walking to the start. Once I started
    : > running, it felt very slight- really just a dull, light
    : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain when
    : > walking.
    : >
    : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
    :
    : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound much
    : like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should get
    : worse as you run, whereas pain from soft tissue injuries
    : attenuates as the run progresses. Your description of the
    : pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
    : generally fading
    during
    : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries (tendons)
    : work. Surprisingly,
    shin
    : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
    :
    : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days off,
    : say 3 days or
    so. See
    : if you can run without pain after that. I had a problem
    : with shin splints
    once
    : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
    : because I took the
    bitter
    : bill of downtime early.
    :
    : Once you return to training, you will need to take a good
    : hard look at
    your
    : program and work out what caused the problem. Running too
    : fast or too much speed work, and too-much-too-soon are
    : leading causes of shin splints.
    :
    : Cheers,
    : --
    : Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  5. hey bikeme! nice to see you in alternate environs.

    hope the pain subsides. i, too, have had stress fracture
    fears recently. a biker turned experimental runner, but
    still somewhat skeptical of all the potential impact. at
    least cycling is nice to the bod, although one longs for use
    on the underside of the thigh.

    (are my posts showing up here?!)

    \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +--------oOOo-(_)--oOOo----
    + +-------------------Oooo---+ oooO (
    ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_

  6. Virginiaz? That's where I'm located...

    Riding is awesome, but the toll on the skeletal frame is
    huge. Bicycle Mag did a feature on it recently. Running adds
    weight-bearing to the mix, helping to build-up the bones.

    The impact of running is an issue, but there are safety
    measures- no more than 10% increase in speed or distance
    per week, etc. And the body does adapt over time. I'm now
    running 40 miles per week. I've been a bit reckless in my
    training, though...

    "Virginiaz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040405124929.20570.00000672@mb-
    m07.aol.com...
    : hey bikeme! nice to see you in alternate environs.
    :
    : hope the pain subsides. i, too, have had stress fracture
    : fears recently.
    a
    : biker turned experimental runner, but still somewhat
    : skeptical of all the potential impact. at least cycling is
    : nice to the bod, although one longs
    for
    : use on the underside of the thigh.
    :
    : (are my posts showing up here?!)
    :
    : \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +--------oOOo-(_)--oOOo----
    : + +-------------------Oooo---+ oooO
    : ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_

  7. Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
    alternating your running and biking days until your
    connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running. It
    took me on the order of a year to really make the
    transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as it
    helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.

    As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you that the
    pain of running on a stress fracture can bring tears to your
    eyes, make you limp when you're walking, feel like someone
    sawed your tibia in two ... you get the idea. It's not
    something you can avoid by adjusting your stride.

    In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a look
    at your shoes if rest days and lower intensity don't solve
    the problem.

    Scott

    bikeme said:

    Thank you so much for the replies.

    I have been doing some stupid things in my training. For
    instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I felt so
    good I allowed it to become a long run, even doing
    speedwork again towards the end of the run (12-15 mile
    runs). Not a good thing to combine both.

    Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then I
    ran another 4 on hills with a friend in the afternoon. And-
    instead of resting the next day, I did another six-miler
    in the morning. Yeah- I needed this reminder that I'm far
    from bulletproof.

    I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on the
    bike or something (low gear) and see how it goes.

    Thanks again!

    "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
    : wrote:
    : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But
    : > until then- here's
    the
    : > question: What the characteristics of stress fracture?
    : > I can feel pain
    in
    : > my right shin a bit when running, but can compensate
    : > with a slight
    change in
    : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
    : >
    : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
    : > area is all that
    sore
    : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst when I
    : > first wake up
    and
    : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was very
    : > short run (3 miles easy pace). The pain the shin was
    : > sharp as I was walking to the start. Once I started
    : > running, it felt very slight- really just a dull,
    : > light painful feeling. After the run, no more pain
    : > when walking.
    : >
    : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
    :
    : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound much
    : like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should get
    : worse as you run, whereas pain from soft tissue injuries
    : attenuates as the run progresses. Your description of
    : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
    : generally fading
    during
    : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries (tendons)
    : work. Surprisingly,
    shin
    : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
    :
    : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days
    : off, say 3 days or
    so. See
    : if you can run without pain after that. I had a problem
    : with shin splints
    once
    : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
    : because I took the
    bitter
    : bill of downtime early.
    :
    : Once you return to training, you will need to take a
    : good hard look at
    your
    : program and work out what caused the problem. Running
    : too fast or too much speed work, and too-much-too-soon
    : are leading causes of shin splints.
    :
    : Cheers,
    : --
    : Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  8. Thanks, Scott. Actually, although I've done a few
    triathlons, I spent the past year concentrating mostly on
    running. Did a marathon this past November. It's the biking
    I've been neglecting. Just getting back into it and it's
    killing my Achilles Tendonitis. Oh well- always something!
    Makes overcoming that much sweeter...

    Thanks again, Brian

    "Scott Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
    : alternating your running and biking days until your
    : connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running. It
    : took me on the order of a year to really make the
    : transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as it
    : helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
    :
    : As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you that
    : the pain of running on a stress fracture can bring tears
    : to your eyes, make you limp when you're walking, feel like
    : someone sawed your tibia in two ... you get the idea. It's
    : not something you can avoid by adjusting your stride.
    :
    : In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a look
    : at your shoes if rest days and lower intensity don't solve
    : the problem.
    :
    : Scott
    :
    : bikeme wrote:
    : > Thank you so much for the replies.
    : >
    : > I have been doing some stupid things in my training. For
    : > instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I felt
    : > so good I allowed it to become
    a
    : > long run, even doing speedwork again towards the end of
    : > the run (12-15
    mile
    : > runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
    : >
    : > Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then I
    : > ran another 4
    on
    : > hills with a friend in the afternoon. And- instead of
    : > resting the next
    day,
    : > I did another six-miler in the morning. Yeah- I needed
    : > this reminder
    that
    : > I'm far from bulletproof.
    : >
    : > I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on the
    : > bike or
    something
    : > (low gear) and see how it goes.
    : >
    : > Thanks again!
    : >
    : >
    : > "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    : > "]news:[email hidden]...
    : > : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
    : > : wrote:
    : > : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But
    : > : > until then-
    here's
    : > the
    : > : > question: What the characteristics of stress
    : > : > fracture? I can feel
    pain
    : > in
    : > : > my right shin a bit when running, but can compensate
    : > : > with a slight
    : > change in
    : > : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
    : > : >
    : > : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if
    : > : > the area is all
    that
    : > sore
    : > : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst when
    : > : > I first wake
    up
    : > and
    : > : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was very
    : > : > short run (3
    miles
    : > : > easy pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was
    : > : > walking to the
    start.
    : > : > Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
    : > : > just a dull,
    light
    : > : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain when
    : > : > walking.
    : > : >
    : > : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
    : > :
    : > : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound
    : > : much like a stress fracture, a stress fracture should
    : > : get worse as you run, whereas pain
    from
    : > : soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run progresses.
    : > : Your
    description of
    : > : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
    : > : generally fading
    : > during
    : > : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries (tendons)
    : > : work.
    Surprisingly,
    : > shin
    : > : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
    : > :
    : > : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days
    : > : off, say 3 days
    or
    : > so. See
    : > : if you can run without pain after that. I had a
    : > : problem with shin
    splints
    : > once
    : > : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
    : > : because I took the
    : > bitter
    : > : bill of downtime early.
    : > :
    : > : Once you return to training, you will need to take a
    : > : good hard look at
    : > your
    : > : program and work out what caused the problem. Running
    : > : too fast or too
    much
    : > : speed work, and too-much-too-soon are leading causes
    : > : of shin splints.
    : > :
    : > : Cheers,
    : > : --
    : > : Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord
    : >
    :

  9. well shoot, you know the drill.

    do i recognize your handle from wreck.bikes.racing (haven't
    followed that group for quite awhile)?

    when running beats my legs up, i find the biking very
    soothing. interesting your achilles hurt from biking. hmmmm.

    keep the rubber side down. :-)

    scott

    bikeme said:

    Thanks, Scott. Actually, although I've done a few
    triathlons, I spent the past year concentrating mostly on
    running. Did a marathon this past November. It's the
    biking I've been neglecting. Just getting back into it and
    it's killing my Achilles Tendonitis. Oh well- always
    something! Makes overcoming that much sweeter...

    Thanks again, Brian

    "Scott Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
    : alternating your running and biking days until your
    : connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running. It
    : took me on the order of a year to really make the
    : transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as it
    : helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
    :
    : As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you that
    : the pain of running on a stress fracture can bring tears
    : to your eyes, make you limp when you're walking, feel
    : like someone sawed your tibia in two ... you get the
    : idea. It's not something you can avoid by adjusting your
    : stride.
    :
    : In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a
    : look at your shoes if rest days and lower intensity
    : don't solve the problem.
    :
    : Scott
    :
    : bikeme wrote:
    : > Thank you so much for the replies.
    : >
    : > I have been doing some stupid things in my training.
    : > For instance, I've done speedwork during a run. And I
    : > felt so good I allowed it to become
    a
    : > long run, even doing speedwork again towards the end
    : > of the run (12-15
    mile
    : > runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
    : >
    : > Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning. Then
    : > I ran another 4
    on
    : > hills with a friend in the afternoon. And- instead of
    : > resting the next
    day,
    : > I did another six-miler in the morning. Yeah- I needed
    : > this reminder
    that
    : > I'm far from bulletproof.
    : >
    : > I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on
    : > the bike or
    something
    : > (low gear) and see how it goes.
    : >
    : > Thanks again!
    : >
    : >
    : > "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    : > "]news:[email hidden]...
    : > : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>, bikeme
    : > : wrote:
    : > : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But
    : > : > until then-
    here's
    : > the
    : > : > question: What the characteristics of stress
    : > : > fracture? I can feel
    pain
    : > in
    : > : > my right shin a bit when running, but can
    : > : > compensate with a slight
    : > change in
    : > : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
    : > : >
    : > : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if
    : > : > the area is all
    that
    : > sore
    : > : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst
    : > : > when I first wake
    up
    : > and
    : > : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was
    : > : > very short run (3
    miles
    : > : > easy pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was
    : > : > walking to the
    start.
    : > : > Once I started running, it felt very slight-
    : > : > really just a dull,
    light
    : > : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain when
    : > : > walking.
    : > : >
    : > : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
    : > :
    : > : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't sound
    : > : much like a stress fracture, a stress fracture
    : > : should get worse as you run, whereas pain
    from
    : > : soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
    : > : progresses. Your
    description of
    : > : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising, and
    : > : generally fading
    : > during
    : > : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries
    : > : (tendons) work.
    Surprisingly,
    : > shin
    : > : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
    : > :
    : > : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of days
    : > : off, say 3 days
    or
    : > so. See
    : > : if you can run without pain after that. I had a
    : > : problem with shin
    splints
    : > once
    : > : and the problem was out the way in less than a week
    : > : because I took the
    : > bitter
    : > : bill of downtime early.
    : > :
    : > : Once you return to training, you will need to take a
    : > : good hard look at
    : > your
    : > : program and work out what caused the problem.
    : > : Running too fast or too
    much
    : > : speed work, and too-much-too-soon are leading causes
    : > : of shin splints.
    : > :
    : > : Cheers,
    : > : --
    : > : Donovan Rebbechi
    : > : pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord
    : >
    : >

  10. Donovan Rebbechi wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    ... pain from soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
    progresses.

    Why exactly is this, Donovan? Is it because you warm up and
    tissue loosens up, or is it more a function of endorphins
    masking the pain?

    --
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    ,ø¤º eNo "If you can't go fast, go long." ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°-
    `°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º

  11. excellent question!

    "eNo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news😄KVcc.7$9f7.0@dfw-
    service2.ext.ray.com...
    : Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
    :
    : <snip>
    : > ... pain from soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
    : > progresses.
    :
    : Why exactly is this, Donovan? Is it because you warm up
    : and tissue loosens up, or is it more a function of
    : endorphins masking the pain?
    :
    : --
    : ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,-
    : ,,,ø¤º eNo "If you can't go fast, go long." ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,-
    : ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º

  12. Must be a different bikeme in that group...

    Yeah, achilles is tough. Took off from running Monday and
    Tuesday. Ran 12 today, but not very fast. Achilles was fried
    by the end...

    "Scott Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    : well shoot, you know the drill.
    :
    : do i recognize your handle from wreck.bikes.racing
    : (haven't followed that group for quite awhile)?
    :
    : when running beats my legs up, i find the biking
    : very soothing. interesting your achilles hurt from
    : biking. hmmmm.
    :
    : keep the rubber side down. :-)
    :
    : scott
    :
    : bikeme wrote:
    :
    : > Thanks, Scott. Actually, although I've done a few
    : > triathlons, I spent
    the
    : > past year concentrating mostly on running. Did a
    : > marathon this past November. It's the biking I've been
    : > neglecting. Just getting back into
    it
    : > and it's killing my Achilles Tendonitis. Oh well- always
    : > something!
    Makes
    : > overcoming that much sweeter...
    : >
    : > Thanks again, Brian
    : >
    : >
    : > "Scott Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    : > "]news:[email hidden]...
    : > : Speaking as a biker/runner, I'd very much recommend
    : > : alternating your running and biking days until your
    : > : connective tissue toughens up a bit from the running.
    : > : It took me on the order of a year to really make the
    : > : transition. I still like to x-train with the bike as
    : > : it helps with my recovery and loosens everything up.
    : > :
    : > : As a shin stress fracture sufferer, I can tell you
    : > : that the pain of running on a stress fracture can
    : > : bring tears to your eyes, make you
    limp
    : > : when you're walking, feel like someone sawed your
    : > : tibia in two ... you get the idea. It's not something
    : > : you can avoid by adjusting your
    stride.
    : > :
    : > : In addition to Donovan's good advice, I'd add take a
    : > : look at your
    shoes
    : > : if rest days and lower intensity don't solve the
    : > : problem.
    : > :
    : > : Scott
    : > :
    : > : bikeme wrote:
    : > : > Thank you so much for the replies.
    : > : >
    : > : > I have been doing some stupid things in my training.
    : > : > For instance,
    I've
    : > : > done speedwork during a run. And I felt so good I
    : > : > allowed it to
    become
    : > a
    : > : > long run, even doing speedwork again towards the end
    : > : > of the run
    (12-15
    : > mile
    : > : > runs). Not a good thing to combine both.
    : > : >
    : > : > Last week, I did a fast six-miler in the morning.
    : > : > Then I ran
    another 4
    : > on
    : > : > hills with a friend in the afternoon. And- instead
    : > : > of resting the
    next
    : > day,
    : > : > I did another six-miler in the morning. Yeah- I
    : > : > needed this
    reminder
    : > that
    : > : > I'm far from bulletproof.
    : > : >
    : > : > I'll take some time off (few days) and just spin on
    : > : > the bike or
    : > something
    : > : > (low gear) and see how it goes.
    : > : >
    : > : > Thanks again!
    : > : >
    : > : >
    : > : > "Donovan Rebbechi" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    : > : > "]news:[email hidden]...
    : > : > : In article <TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>,
    : > : > : bikeme wrote:
    : > : > : > I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will.
    : > : > : > But until then-
    : > here's
    : > : > the
    : > : > : > question: What the characteristics of stress
    : > : > : > fracture? I can
    feel
    : > pain
    : > : > in
    : > : > : > my right shin a bit when running, but can
    : > : > : > compensate with a
    slight
    : > : > change in
    : > : > : > stride. The pain isn't bad.
    : > : > : >
    : > : > : > I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell
    : > : > : > if the area is
    all
    : > that
    : > : > sore
    : > : > : > or not. The strange thing is- the pain is worst
    : > : > : > when I first
    wake
    : > up
    : > : > and
    : > : > : > get out of bed and start walking. Yesterday was
    : > : > : > very short run
    (3
    : > miles
    : > : > : > easy pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was
    : > : > : > walking to the
    : > start.
    : > : > : > Once I started running, it felt very slight-
    : > : > : > really just a dull,
    : > light
    : > : > : > painful feeling. After the run, no more pain
    : > : > : > when walking.
    : > : > : >
    : > : > : > So~ stress fracture or something else?
    : > : > :
    : > : > : Could be "shin splints" (tendonitis). Doesn't
    : > : > : sound much like a
    stress
    : > : > : fracture, a stress fracture should get worse as
    : > : > : you run, whereas
    pain
    : > from
    : > : > : soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
    : > : > : progresses. Your
    : > description of
    : > : > : the pain -- peaking in the morning upon arising,
    : > : > : and generally
    fading
    : > : > during
    : > : > : the run is also the way soft tissue injuries
    : > : > : (tendons) work.
    : > Surprisingly,
    : > : > shin
    : > : > : splints can involve sharp jolting pain.
    : > : > :
    : > : > : Here's what I'd suggest: try taking a couple of
    : > : > : days off, say 3
    days
    : > or
    : > : > so. See
    : > : > : if you can run without pain after that. I had a
    : > : > : problem with shin
    : > splints
    : > : > once
    : > : > : and the problem was out the way in less than a
    : > : > : week because I took
    the
    : > : > bitter
    : > : > : bill of downtime early.
    : > : > :
    : > : > : Once you return to training, you will need to take
    : > : > : a good hard
    look at
    : > : > your
    : > : > : program and work out what caused the problem.
    : > : > : Running too fast or
    too
    : > much
    : > : > : speed work, and too-much-too-soon are leading
    : > : > : causes of shin
    splints.
    : > : > :
    : > : > : Cheers,
    : > : > : --
    : > : > : Donovan Rebbechi
    : > : > : pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord
    : > : >
    : > : >
    : >
    :

  13. In article said:

    Donovan Rebbechi wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    ... pain from soft tissue injuries attenuates as the run
    progresses.

    Why exactly is this, Donovan? Is it because you warm up
    and tissue loosens up, or is it more a function of
    endorphins masking the pain?

    My money would be on the former. It's some kind of warmup
    effect -- if it were endorphins, one would expect that the
    effect would be related to intensity, but as far as I can
    tell, it isn't. For example, even walking to the bathroom
    after getting out of bed is enough to attenuate the "morning
    soreness" one gets with soft tissue injuries. Also, the
    endorphins explanation doesn't explain why the same doesn't
    happen with other injuries (like stress fractures where the
    pain increases during the run)

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflord

  14. "bikeme" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<TObcc.12568$pM1.9738@lakeread06>...

    Quoted message said:

    I know, I know- go see a Dr. I probably will. But until
    then- here's the question: What the characteristics of
    stress fracture? I can feel pain in my right shin a bit
    when running, but can compensate with a slight change in
    stride. The pain isn't bad.

    I've tried tapping the shin bone but can't tell if the
    area is all that sore or not. The strange thing is- the
    pain is worst when I first wake up and get out of bed and
    start walking. Yesterday was very short run (3 miles easy
    pace). The pain the shin was sharp as I was walking to the
    start. Once I started running, it felt very slight- really
    just a dull, light painful feeling. After the run, no more
    pain when walking.

    So~ stress fracture or something else?

    Thanks...

    It's a minor muscle atrophy. Go out and run a 30 miler
    barefoot, it'll be fine after that.

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