Two bikes were delivered to school today - both Ridgeback Genesis Day 00 2007 Hybrid Bike, and from Evans Cycles. www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=70422 In one of the bike boxes there were 3 white Specialized helmets. www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=22673
I had no advance warning about their delivery.
Options: 1. A thank-you present for a briefing I gave on cycle training to a European Union delegation looking at sustainable transport in different European cities on 19 April. 2. A thank-you present for a presentation I gave to a TfL conference on 24 April. 3. A thank-you present for the work I did in organising a live event for ITV London on 27 April. 4. A sorry present from the person who ran me down on Monday. 5. Bikes for someone else in the school 6. A mistake.
All seem equally unlikely, but I cannot think of any other reasons.
Perhaps a competition win??? Prizes very often turn up with no cover notes. I won a speaker system a couple of years ago, it just turned up,with no prior warning. I've heard of people having large expensive TVs etc arrive, with no idea where they've come from.
7. A competition win for TfL's Cycling for Young People Award. www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/4815.aspx
Risks having to give them back if 6. Keep quiet and see what happens is my advice.
and Rob Morley responded:
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I think you'll find that constitutes "theft by finding" or something similar.
AIUI under the Distance Selling Regulations if a supplier sends you unsolicited goods then they are yours, FOC.
-- Danny Colyer <URL:http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/> Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often "Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down. Daddy, why did you put that down?" - Charlie Colyer, age 2
Risks having to give them back if 6. Keep quiet and see what happens is my advice.
and Rob Morley responded:
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I think you'll find that constitutes "theft by finding" or something similar.
AIUI under the Distance Selling Regulations if a supplier sends you unsolicited goods then they are yours, FOC.
IIRC, fairly quickly if you tell the supplier and they decline the opportunity to come and take them away, after quite some time if you don't tell them.
But I think there's a difference between "a supplier sends you unsolicited goods" and "a supplier sends someone else solicited goods that get delivered to you by mistake". Morally if not legally.
(We had a flatpack garden bench left recently with no delivery note, but since we're 31A and next door is 31 and has had quite a lot of work recently after being sold, we guessed it was for them. But allegedly if you are a van driver with a package that has lost its documentation, it's easier to dump it somewhere and pretend it never existed and let the non-delivery be someone else's problem than to take it back to the depot and say "I've got this left over and don't know what to do with it". Most van drivers will do the right thing even if it is more hassle, but not all.)
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Risks having to give them back if 6. Keep quiet and see what happens is my advice.
and Rob Morley responded:
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I think you'll find that constitutes "theft by finding" or something similar.
AIUI under the Distance Selling Regulations if a supplier sends you unsolicited goods then they are yours, FOC.
I'm not sure that the Unsolicited Goods and Services Act (as referenced/amended? in the DSR) applies in this case, as the bikes weren't addressed to a person.
In article <[email hidden]>, Danny Colyer [email hidden] says...
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Just Visiting suggested:
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> Risks having to give them back if 6. Keep quiet and see what > happens is my advice.
and Rob Morley responded:
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I think you'll find that constitutes "theft by finding" or something similar.
AIUI under the Distance Selling Regulations if a supplier sends you unsolicited goods then they are yours, FOC.
I'm not sure that the Unsolicited Goods and Services Act (as referenced/amended? in the DSR) applies in this case, as the bikes weren't addressed to a person.
See option 7: As already posted. There is the possibility this could be a competition win, assuming the OP enters such things. The Evening Standard, as well as other companies have given away cycles in association with Evans. ( I myself won one last year). Very often prizes do turn up completely unannounced, with not even a compliments slip enclosed! This has also happened to me and my friends on numeous occasions. This doesn't only apply to small prizes either. I know of people who've had large TVs etc- just arrive. The biggest unannouced prize I've had turn up was a speaker system, then worth £250, I've still no idea where it came from. If the OP thinks this may be a prize, he wouldn't be expected to try and discover where it came from. For further info on this type of thing see www.loquax.co.uk Jan
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In article <[email hidden]>, Danny Colyer [email hidden] says...
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Just Visiting suggested: >> Risks having to give them back if 6. Keep quiet and see what >> happens is my advice.
and Rob Morley responded: > I think you'll find that constitutes "theft by finding" or something > similar.
AIUI under the Distance Selling Regulations if a supplier sends you unsolicited goods then they are yours, FOC.
I'm not sure that the Unsolicited Goods and Services Act (as referenced/amended? in the DSR) applies in this case, as the bikes weren't addressed to a person.
See option 7: As already posted. There is the possibility this could be a competition win, assuming the OP enters such things.
That is indeed a possibility, but it wasn't the possibility we were discussing - prizes are solicited by competition entrants.
Two bikes were delivered to school today - both Ridgeback Genesis Day 00 2007 Hybrid Bike, and from Evans Cycles.
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Perhaps a competition win??? Prizes very often turn up with no cover notes. I won a speaker system a couple of years ago, it just turned up,with no prior warning. I've heard of people having large expensive TVs etc arrive, with no idea where they've come from.
7. A competition win for TfL's Cycling for Young People Award. www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/newscentre/4815.aspx
On Fri, 4 May 2007 07:27:36 +0100, "vernon" <[email hidden]>
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Ring Evans and find out! - it's a no brainer ;-)
I tried on Friday, again on Tuesday and finally today I got through.
They were supposed to be delivered before Friday 27th April, but for whatever reason didn't arrive on time. They were to be used by two novice adult cyclists, who, over a period of weeks, ITV London will be following as they progress from novice to confident city cyclists.
Two bikes were delivered to school today - both Ridgeback Genesis Day 00 2007 Hybrid Bike, and from Evans Cycles. www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=70422 In one of the bike boxes there were 3 white Specialized helmets. www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=22673
I had no advance warning about their delivery.
Options: 1. A thank-you present for a briefing I gave on cycle training to a European Union delegation looking at sustainable transport in different European cities on 19 April. 2. A thank-you present for a presentation I gave to a TfL conference on 24 April. 3. A thank-you present for the work I did in organising a live event for ITV London on 27 April. 4. A sorry present from the person who ran me down on Monday. 5. Bikes for someone else in the school 6. A mistake.
All seem equally unlikely, but I cannot think of any other reasons.
No more strange than a fax I received yesterday. I doubt that I was the intended recipient - it was copy statements of six Company Barclaycards, complete with names and addresses
I e-mailed the company who sent them, then shredded the documents.
