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> Just not really sure if I actually want to give up for *ever*.
Then you probably wont.
I smoked for 5 years, I gave up a bunch of times but rarely for more than a week. Then one day I decided I *really* wanted to stop, so I did. That was almost 8 years ago and I wouldn't dream of touching a [censored] now - the thought of it repulses me.
As somebody said, "Giving smoking is easy - I've done it hundreds of times."
I stopped and started a few times between 7 years old and 22. By 25 I'd even lost interest in smoking other people's when I was well tanked up in bars or clubs. Maybe I'm just lucky that way.
I'm looking forward to the smoking ban coming in for pubs etc. I used to see it as a personal choice issue, and would have been completely opposed to such a ban, but the growing evidence that it harms other people - and my experience of what bar staff get exposed to - has convinced me that it is crazy to make other people suffer from the smoke produced by tobacco addicts.
If people must have nicotine as a social drug, snuff should be the delivery method.
I went to an international school and remember the Scandinavian contingent being very keen on snuss. It's ground up tobacco mixed with something acidic - you put it under your lip and the nicotine is absorbed through the skin. It has the consistency of slightly damp coffee grounds and it takes about half a term's practice before you can keep it in a coherent ball and not end up with a gob full of particles.
Illegal now. The EU banned it except in Scandinavia.
I remember we used to 'sniff' snuff at school. A box of snuff used to cost around 50p.
"Paul - [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I didn't smoke or even touch a cigarette at all since until about three years ago. The only time I now smoke is when I'm 'out with the lads' or have had a few drinks whilst out somewhere. I generally have a couple while I'm out. BUT, what really hammers home to me how disgusting it is as a habit is the next morning when I can't taste anything, my throat is sore, my lungs feel like there's only about 1 cc available for use, my hair, clothes, and everything near me smells of tobacco, and I feel generally [censored], which doesn't mean I was drunk either ... 😉
I have the some problem when I've had a few. I carry some Nicotine chewing gum with me. Works a treat and I've not had a cig in 6 years. -- Simon M.
Just not really sure if I actually want to give up for *ever*.
A word of caution. If you do give up for ever (which is the only right course) you may become a Very Anti-smoking Person. Since I quit about twenty years ago I've surpassed James VI as a bore on the subject of the hateful weed and its consequences. I can smell a smoker at 500 yards and have become loudly outspoken in eating places which still permit the habit.
Roll on the ban, if only to shut me up :-) -- Brian G
A word of caution. If you do give up for ever (which is the only right course) you may become a Very Anti-smoking Person. Since I quit about twenty years ago I've surpassed James VI as a bore on the subject of the hateful weed and its consequences. I can smell a smoker at 500 yards and have become loudly outspoken in eating places which still permit the habit.
This is truly one of the strangest phenomena of all. Although I have sometimes managed to be outspoken enough on the subject for someone to ask me when I quit! ;-)
I suspect it is something to do with the fear of temptation.
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Roll on the ban, if only to shut me up :-)
Hear hear. Er... I didn't mean that you should shut up. Only that I look forward to going to the pub and not coming home reeking of smoke.
I'm looking forward to the smoking ban coming in for pubs etc.
So am I. I'm convinced that passive smoking gives me hangovers. If I drink in a smoky pub, even just 3 or 4 beers, I've usually got a hangover but if I drink at home or at friends (only a couple of my friends smoke and they usually do it out side) I can drink a whole lot more and not be hungover.
I hardly go to pubs because of this. When smoking is banned I'm sure I'll probably go more often.
This has just happenned here in NZ, and bar staff are noticing all of the unpleasant smells that it was covering up... body odour, farts, etc...
On 15 Jan 2005 13:26:09 -0800, "MartinM" <[email hidden]>
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Go for it; I gave up over a year ago having previously gone 12 years off 7 on , I ended up buying packets of 10 to emphasise the waste
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money.
I'm going to start smoking. Then I can give up and suddenly have more money ?!?!?
That's of course assuming you don't then take up drinking 24 hrs a day and paying the proposed "Policing tax" levy that's going to be added to the cost of bozz.
I'm looking forward to the smoking ban coming in for pubs etc.
So am I. I'm convinced that passive smoking gives me hangovers. If I drink in a smoky pub, even just 3 or 4 beers, I've usually got a hangover but if I drink at home or at friends (only a couple of my friends smoke and they usually do it out side) I can drink a whole lot more and not be hungover. I hardly go to pubs because of this. When smoking is banned I'm sure I'll probably go more often.
This has just happenned here in NZ, and bar staff are noticing all of the unpleasant smells that it was covering up... body odour, farts, etc...
At least the other smells don't stick to your clothes. -- Mark
Actually it doesn't need 'too many drinks' either, I have smoked before when I've only had one drink. I'm guessing a drink in the smoky, lively, comfortable environment of a pub is a trigger to the 'craving' and I allow it to happen.
Then when the smoking ban rolls in, you'll probably find yourself stopping altogether.
If I really cared I could stop altogether anyway. It's only the last few years that I started, in my own small way, again.
-- Paul ... http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php (8(!) Homer Rules ... 😉 "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."
"Paul - [censored]" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I didn't smoke or even touch a cigarette at all since until about three years ago. The only time I now smoke is when I'm 'out with the lads' or have had a few drinks whilst out somewhere. I generally have a couple while I'm out. BUT, what really hammers home to me how disgusting it is as a habit is the next morning when I can't taste anything, my throat is sore, my lungs feel like there's only about 1 cc available for use, my hair, clothes, and everything near me smells of tobacco, and I feel generally [censored], which doesn't mean I was drunk either ... 😉
I have the some problem when I've had a few. I carry some Nicotine chewing gum with me. Works a treat and I've not had a cig in 6 years.
Heh, I haven't tried it yet .. the adverts for it, and especially the patches adverts, put me off .. 😉
-- Paul ... http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php (8(!) Homer Rules ... 😉 "A [censored] is a [censored], no matter what mode of transport they're using."
I smoked for 5 years, I gave up a bunch of times but rarely for more than a week. Then one day I decided I *really* wanted to stop, so I did. That was almost 8 years ago and I wouldn't dream of touching a [censored] now - the thought of it repulses me.
That's the key, I think. You *have* to *make* it repulse in you in order to give up.
Last weekend I listed a packet of [censored] (if I'd been honest, I'd have said two packs) as part of my essential kit for a day's bike ride. Made me think "why don't I stop smoking?".
So I stopped. Just put ciggies and lighter in desk drawer on Sunday night and left them there on Monday morning. Most years I give up smoking for Lent so I'm familiar with the withdrawel symptoms so I'm probably OK for the short term.
The first two years are the worst... I gave up in August 2001, but /still/ sniff enviously at other people's used smoke in Thee Pubbe. Can't stand the smell on my jumper the next norning, though, and when I actually /tried/ one (purely in a spirit of scientific enquiry, obv.) I coughed violently and wondered how on earth I'd been doing twenty a day for ("ahem" - Ed) years.
I am about 20kg heavier than I was back then, but can still ride a bike faster...
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Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ World Domination? Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)
My experience was that the first 3 years were the worst, the next 3 years not so bad and the third 3 year period tolerable. It took me about 9 years to loose the urge altogether.
Addictive or what?
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My experience was that the first 3 years were the worst, the next 3 years not so bad and the third 3 year period tolerable. It took me about 9 years to loose the urge altogether.
Addictive or what?
I'd have to agree with the time scales, I stopped in '96 and still occasionally fancy a cig. Usually is specific circumstances, like with a pint, because I can remember the feeling of supping a bit of ale followed by a deep drag on a [censored] - brilliant!
However I've not had a single cig now for about 4 or 5 years (before that had the odd cadged one in the pub) because they make me feel sick with the nico hit, and I do mean very sick. That alone will be enough to stop me forever.
