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  1. I've watched enough cooking programs on TV to see that a lot of Chinese
    and Asian cooking all starts with a handful of the same basic ingredients.

    So, are there some very basic ingredient combos to make fast stir-fry
    that tastes good? what order to add?

    I'm looking for something like

    1 T. oil
    ? cup onion
    1 clove garlic
    ? ginger
    ? black bean paste
    ? soy sauce
    ? oyster sauce
    etc?

    so that I can add veg and meat and have it always be basically tasty.
    Winging it isn't working for me, so their must be some basic formula
    that I need to master first, yes?

  2. barbie gee said:

    I've watched enough cooking programs on TV to see that a lot of Chinese
    and Asian cooking all starts with a handful of the same basic ingredients.

    So, are there some very basic ingredient combos to make fast stir-fry
    that tastes good? what order to add?

    I'm looking for something like

    1 T. oil
    ? cup onion
    1 clove garlic
    ? ginger
    ? black bean paste
    ? soy sauce
    ? oyster sauce
    etc?

    so that I can add veg and meat and have it always be basically tasty.
    Winging it isn't working for me, so their must be some basic formula
    that I need to master first, yes?

    Hay there Brab :-)

    I mix a bunch of condiments together, e.g. soy sauce, sesame oil (this is
    for flavor, not for cooking, a bit goes a long ways), some siracha, hoisin
    sauce, rice wine, whatever...it's my "basic" stir - fry sauce. Garlic,
    onions, ginger, peppers, herbs, etc. can be added in varying quantities to
    each dish depending on taste (I love garlic, but a friend of mine is
    somewhat allergic to it, so I can vary the quantity to taste when I cook for
    him...other friends are vegan, so no oyster sauce).

    I like a "citrusy" flavor so I'll sometimes add a dash or two of key lime or
    other citrus juice when stir - frying...

    There are prepared "stir fry" sauces at yer local grocer, but IMO you can do
    a lot better by concocting yer own (and these prepared sauces are fairly
    expensive, so they are out for us frugalistas...it's like that line of "Thai
    Classics" or whatever foodstuffs at the grocer, those are for yuppie round
    eyes, you can do much better and much cheaper by going to an Asian
    grocer...)

    Experiment around, you *can't* go wrong ;-p

    --
    Best
    Greg

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    barbie gee said:

    I've watched enough cooking programs on TV to see that a lot of Chinese
    and Asian cooking all starts with a handful of the same basic ingredients.

    So, are there some very basic ingredient combos to make fast stir-fry
    that tastes good? what order to add?

    I'm looking for something like

    1 T. oil
    ? cup onion
    1 clove garlic
    ? ginger
    ? black bean paste
    ? soy sauce
    ? oyster sauce
    etc?

    so that I can add veg and meat and have it always be basically tasty.
    Winging it isn't working for me, so their must be some basic formula
    that I need to master first, yes?

    This is basically stolen from Bittman's book:

    Start out with 2 tbp garlic and 1 tbp ginger, minced. Throw in some
    dried chiles for heat if you want. Stir fry in 2 tbp of peanut oil for
    15 sec and then add in whatever you feel like -- it might be worthwhile
    to parboil some of the veggies. If you have lots of stuff, it's probably
    a good idea to do it in two batches, with 1 tbp oil and half the garlic
    and ginger each time. That way you don't have to worry about your wok
    (or whatever) cooling down as you add new stuff which happens because a
    home range can't put out nearly as much heat as a restaurant wok burner.

    Once everything's in, add the sauces. Start with 2 tpb of soy sauce and
    add pretty much whatever you like. 1-2 tbp oyster sauce (Lee Kum Kee
    brand) is a good one to try. Finish off with a quarter cup of stock or
    water (just use it to scrape the bottom) and let reduce for a bit. Futz
    with all the seasonings (incl. salt and pepper) until you like the
    taste. If you want a thick sauce like at the restaurants, mix a tpb of
    corn starch in with the stock before adding to the stir fry.

    Really, though, just mess around and see what you like. In addition to
    what you have up there, you can try fish sauce (use instead of or in
    combo with the soy sauce), hoisin sauce, rice wine vinegar, shaoxing
    wine, sesame oil (a little goes a long way), various hot sauces
    (sriracha and sambal are good), five spice, etc.

    Aaron

  4. barbie gee said:


    I've watched enough cooking programs on TV to see that a lot of Chinese
    and Asian cooking all starts with a handful of the same basic ingredients.

    So, are there some very basic ingredient combos to make fast stir-fry
    that tastes good? what order to add?

    I'm looking for something like

    1 T. oil
    ? cup onion
    1 clove garlic
    ? ginger
    ? black bean paste
    ? soy sauce
    ? oyster sauce
    etc?

    so that I can add veg and meat and have it always be basically tasty.
    Winging it isn't working for me, so their must be some basic formula
    that I need to master first, yes?

    I would not add oyster sauce, and would use peanut oil add a little MSG (I
    can heat the uproar now!)

    The basic secrets are:

    - Rice - I use medium grain rice in the rice cooker for 75 mins, or cooked
    in boiling water and left in the refrigerator (use a colander;
    refrigerators have low humidity).

    The moisture content needs to be below freshly boiled rice.

    - Temperature - This is CRITICALLY important. Chinese restaurants have huge
    wok burners that look like a furnace! A new noodle bar near me has water
    flowing round the outside of the burners to cool them.

    This high heat gives it that special smokey/barbecue flavor.

    Let the wok heat up well before adding ingredients or oil. In a domestic
    situation cook in small batches to keep up the temperature.

    At the moment I'm using an electric frying pan instead of a wok simply
    because gives a high temperature & it retains heat. The result is virtually
    identical to Chinese restaurants.

    gtoomey

  5. Sorry, I read this as asking for a recipe for fried rice!

    gt

  6. Aaron Bergman said:

    Really, though, just mess around and see what you like. In addition to

    what you have up there, you can try fish sauce (use instead of or in
    combo with the soy sauce),

    Ah yes! the ol' "Nampla" good stuff when made well and used correctly
    but as an American (western - modern) hobbyist - cook, i have trouble
    with it, perhaps it is an acquired taste, like olive oil which i don't
    like, but i have had it in Thailand and in restaurants and yet been
    unable to duplicate it at home with commercially available products.

    I thought of mentioning it in my original response to this thread but
    decided to stick to basics, i consider the whole "fish sauce" idea a bit
    esoteric.

    Quoted message said:

    hoisin sauce, rice wine vinegar, shaoxing
    wine, sesame oil (a little goes a long way), various hot sauces
    (sriracha and sambal are good), five spice, etc.

    Aaron

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    Joseph Littleshoes

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