stick-on numbers: what glue?

On 24 Mar 2007 01:22:27 -0700, "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

I think it's some sort of spray-on adhesive. I also think this is one
idea that started with preening and rich masters fatties and then
spread to the euro-pros.
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Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Any other ideas?

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I was about to recommend 3M Super 77 spray adhesive - but it might be
too strong. I was checking out the 3M web site, then I saw this:
http://tinyurl.com/2y9zrb
Sports and Hobbies - and the only thing they show are a card table, a
putting green and a seat cushion. Yep. Bunch of 'roid ragin'
athletes at 3M!

Here's a link to the 3M web site search for temporary spray adhesives:
http://tinyurl.com/2v9bgv

You might also want to look at this:
http://www.acousticalsurfaces.com/sealants_adhesives/contact_adhesive.htm?d=18
Says it makes permanent or temporary bonds, non-staining and all of
that good stuff.

As always, test in an inconspicuous place. Like someone else's
jersey.

R

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Any other ideas?

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I've been to ski races where the numbers were printed on fabric
stickers. One sheet of A4 (euro letter) size with die-cut areas around
the different printing. I'm sure it's the same sort of thing.

Joseph

RicodJour said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Quoted message said:

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

Quoted message said:

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Quoted message said:

Any other ideas?

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I was about to recommend 3M Super 77 spray adhesive - but it might be
too strong. I was checking out the 3M web site, then I saw this:http://tinyurl.com/2y9zrb
Sports and Hobbies - and the only thing they show are a card table, a
putting green and a seat cushion. Yep. Bunch of 'roid ragin'
athletes at 3M!

Here's a link to the 3M web site search for temporary spray adhesives:http://tinyurl.com/2v9bgv

You might also want to look at this:http://www.acousticalsurfaces.com/sealants_adhesives/contact_adhesive...
Says it makes permanent or temporary bonds, non-staining and all of
that good stuff.

As always, test in an inconspicuous place. Like someone else's
jersey.

Rico, your link to 3M's Super 77 pages found me a probable solution:
3M Spray Mount Artist's Adhesive
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Super-77/Super77/SprayAdhesive/Product-Information?PC_7_0_382I_assetType=MMM_Article&PC_7_0_382I_assetId=1114284886905&PC_7_0_382I_univid=1114284886905%237_0_382I

http://tinyurl.com/2d3uyj

It's not designed for "outdoor use", but I think they're mostly
hinting that it's a moderate-strength adhesive. I'll do some
experimenting with wearing race numbers while commuting for a few
days.

I'll try to report back when I have results.

Thanks!

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Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Quoted message said:

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

Quoted message said:

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Quoted message said:

Any other ideas?

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I've been to ski races where the numbers were printed on fabric
stickers. One sheet of A4 (euro letter) size with die-cut areas around
the different printing. I'm sure it's the same sort of thing.

Joseph

Big-budget ski races can afford zooty fabric numbers, but you're
right, that's probably similar to the Euro-pro style, with pre-applied
adhesive.

Anyone here touched a TdF number? Are they a Tyvek-type material like
most local race numbers, or do they use fabric-based numbers?

Either way, I doubt local races could or would change over to stick-on
numbers. I'm looking for a way to make my own from default pin-on
numbers. I figure the jealousy alone will be worth a few places.

RicodJour said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Any other ideas?

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I was about to recommend 3M Super 77 spray adhesive - but it might be
too strong. I was checking out the 3M web site, then I saw this:
http://tinyurl.com/2y9zrb
Sports and Hobbies - and the only thing they show are a card table, a
putting green and a seat cushion. Yep. Bunch of 'roid ragin'
athletes at 3M!

Here's a link to the 3M web site search for temporary spray adhesives:
http://tinyurl.com/2v9bgv

You might also want to look at this:
http://www.acousticalsurfaces.com/sealants_adhesives/contact_adhesive.htm?d=18
Says it makes permanent or temporary bonds, non-staining and all of
that good stuff.

3M 77 is permanent if used properly. I suspect that if sprayed on the back of
the number than then stuck down when tacky it'd not be permanent.

Quoted message said:

As always, test in an inconspicuous place. Like someone else's
jersey.

Good idea. Those are some pretty evil solvents in most spray glues.

Ron

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Quoted message said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

http://www.misterart.com/store/view/001/group_id/2323/Krylon-Repositionable-Adhesive.htm

Ryan Cousineau said:

RicodJour said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Quoted message said:

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

Quoted message said:

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Quoted message said:

Any other ideas?

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I was about to recommend 3M Super 77 spray adhesive - but it might be
too strong. I was checking out the 3M web site, then I saw this:http://tinyurl.com/2y9zrb
Sports and Hobbies - and the only thing they show are a card table, a
putting green and a seat cushion. Yep. Bunch of 'roid ragin'
athletes at 3M!

Here's a link to the 3M web site search for temporary spray adhesives:http://tinyurl.com/2v9bgv

You might also want to look at this:http://www.acousticalsurfaces.com/sealants_adhesives/contact_adhesive...
Says it makes permanent or temporary bonds, non-staining and all of
that good stuff.

As always, test in an inconspicuous place. Like someone else's
jersey.

Rico, your link to 3M's Super 77 pages found me a probable solution:
3M Spray Mount Artist's Adhesive
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-Super-77/Super77/SprayAdhesive/Product-Information?PC_7_0_382I_assetType=MMM_Article&PC_7_0_382I_assetId=1114284886905&PC_7_0_382I_univid=1114284886905%237_0_382I

http://tinyurl.com/2d3uyj

It's not designed for "outdoor use", but I think they're mostly
hinting that it's a moderate-strength adhesive. I'll do some
experimenting with wearing race numbers while commuting for a few
days.

I'll try to report back when I have results.

Please do. I think you might actually want to err on having a
stronger tack rather than a weaker one. You'd look pretty freaking
stupid placing without your number. 😉

R

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I prefer the pins, the number acts as a drag chute on those nasty
descents.

Callistus Valerius said:

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

I prefer the pins, the number acts as a drag chute on those nasty
descents.

The race numbers are frequently required to be off to one side, which
can cause the chute to drag you off to that side. That's not safe
unless the downhill is a constant radius turn in the same direction,
and that rarely happens. I prefer to just slip the helmet off of the
back of my head and let that act as a drag chute. The vent holes in
the helmet prevent wind gusts from snapping your neck...usually.

R

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Any other ideas?

dumbass,

you can go one better. our jersey supplier can sublimate a small area
on piece of clothing (of the right material i guess). so you can
custom sublimate your name or some mesage onto the back of your jersey
or shorts.

-Amit

Quoted message said:

you can go one better. our jersey supplier can sublimate a small area
on piece of clothing (of the right material i guess). so you can
custom sublimate your name or some mesage onto the back of your jersey
or shorts.

Why stop there? LED spoke lights could talk trash so he wouldn't have
to:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000BH9V2A/ref=dp_otherviews_3/002-5571779-9755259?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&img=3

R

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Any other ideas?

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

thistothat.com

Paper to Fabric
If you want the joint to stay flexible, we recommend:
Sobo
Rhoplex
But if you don't mind some stiffness, use:
Elmer's Carpenter's Glue
LePage's Bondfast
For an absolutely wrinkle free result, but with some stiffness, we
recommend:
Yamato Sticking Paste

To avoid wrinkles and stiffness, try:
3M 77

http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue.cgi?lang=en&this=Paper&that=Fabric

dtamasauskas said:

To avoid wrinkles and stiffness, try:
3M 77

But don't try Keith Richards.

RicodJour said:

Callistus Valerius said:

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

Quoted message said:

I prefer the pins, the number acts as a drag chute on those nasty
descents.

The race numbers are frequently required to be off to one side, which
can cause the chute to drag you off to that side. That's not safe
unless the downhill is a constant radius turn in the same direction,
and that rarely happens. I prefer to just slip the helmet off of the
back of my head and let that act as a drag chute. The vent holes in
the helmet prevent wind gusts from snapping your neck...usually.

R

I just wear my helmet backwards.

Joseph

Quoted message said:

I just wear my helmet backwards.

If you wore it cocked sideways at a weird angle with baggy spandex you
could be a phatty masters.

--
Bill Asher

Quoted message said:

Ryan Cousineau said:

So I'm sick of stupid pin-on numbers, and I want to look all euro-pro
by sticking my numbers on at my next race.

Quoted message said:

Has anybody here rolled their own stick-on numbers? Looking at the pro-
style numbers, it appears they're using an even coating of some fairly
tacky glue: a bit more aggressive than post-it notes.

Quoted message said:

As a first try, I was thinking of using a glue stick. The goal is a
number that won't fall off, but will peel off.

Quoted message said:

Any other ideas?

Quoted message said:

As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
sad, I know.

thistothat.com

Paper to Fabric
If you want the joint to stay flexible, we recommend:
Sobo
Rhoplex
But if you don't mind some stiffness, use:
Elmer's Carpenter's Glue
LePage's Bondfast
For an absolutely wrinkle free result, but with some stiffness, we
recommend:
Yamato Sticking Paste

To avoid wrinkles and stiffness, try:
3M 77

http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue.cgi?lang=en&this=Paper&that=Fa...

Aren't most numbers printed on that Tyvek like [censored]? That's between a
fabric and a plastic - spun olefin or something like that. Fabric to
fabric provides the same results as the link you provided. Plastic
to fabric: http://www.thistothat.com/cgi-bin/glue.cgi?lang=en&this=Plastic&that=Fabric

Note that the results don't indicate that the bonds are temporary, so
pick some numbers you like.

R

On Mar 26, 8:04 pm, John Forrest Tomlinson <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I had a helmet for awhile, a Schwinn helmet, that would get noticeable
lift above about 30mph. Going downhill it'd be pulling my head up.

You were wearing it upside down. It's supposed to push you down to
increase traction. Kind of like the spoilers on muscle cars.

R

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RicodJour said:

Callistus Valerius said:

> As to why, well, it's partly that pins are a pain and I never get my
> number pinned on right, and partly that I want to look Euro-pro. Yeah,
> sad, I know.

Quoted message said:

I prefer the pins, the number acts as a drag chute on those nasty
descents.

The race numbers are frequently required to be off to one side, which
can cause the chute to drag you off to that side. That's not safe
unless the downhill is a constant radius turn in the same direction,
and that rarely happens. I prefer to just slip the helmet off of the
back of my head and let that act as a drag chute. The vent holes in
the helmet prevent wind gusts from snapping your neck...usually.

R

I just wear my helmet backwards.

I had a helmet for awhile, a Schwinn helmet, that would get noticeable
lift above about 30mph. Going downhill it'd be pulling my head up.

--
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