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  1. When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

  2. HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

    The usual cause is drag in the cables, causing sluggish shifting to the
    smaller sprockets, slacking cable tension to help this then results in
    marginal shifting to larger sprockets. The easy fix is new housing and
    cable.

    It can also be bent derailer cage/hanger, improper position of the cable
    on the end clamp (derailer), or accumulated slop in derailer and/or shifter.

  3. HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry


    Did you lubricate the shifter once you flushed it out with WD40?
    You have too much friction in the system. Friction adds up along the way.
    It can come from the shifter, cable, housing, cable ends, bottom bracket passage, derailer, etc. Since it needs to all be connected together to work, it is hard to isolate the problem area(s).
    I suggest working with a small amount of aerosol Triflow into the shifter. Give it a short blast, then work it in by shifting through all 9 positions. WD40 does a good job of cleaning and displacing moisture, but a poor job of lubricating.

  4. HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

    Hi Harry, you may have connected the cable wrong. There are two ways
    to do it. One for shifting 9 speed the other for 8. It sounds like
    that is the problem. Check online for the install instructions, or
    take a look at another 9 speed that is working correctly.

    Life is Good!
    Jeff

  5. "Jeff Starr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

    Hi Harry, you may have connected the cable wrong. There are two ways
    to do it. One for shifting 9 speed the other for 8. It sounds like
    that is the problem. Check online for the install instructions, or
    take a look at another 9 speed that is working correctly.

    Life is Good!
    Jeff

    Harry,

    I made the mistake Jeff described. Drove me crazy, couldn't get the indexing
    rght. Looked at the instruction sheet again and realized I had the cabling
    wrong. Two minute fix, perfect shifting ever since.

    Good Luck
    Gary

  6. HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

    Although I was sure that nothing was binding, I replaced the cable and
    housing. That didn't help. As best as I can tell the hanger isn't bent
    and trying a different shifter didn't help either. Neither did another
    derailleur. Finally I installed a different cogset and that was an
    immediate improvement. Since the two cogsets are quite different from
    one another, I couldn't get the second one to shift very smoothly, but
    it sure shifted a lot better.

    I do not understand what is wrong with the original cogset. It doesn't
    appear that any of the cogs are bent nor are any of the teeth worn
    very badly. It has about 7,000 miles on it, but since it's on a tandem
    I guess it has probably had a rougher life than normal. Anyway, I'll
    purchase a new one and hopefully this shifting problem will be over.

    Thanks for the suggestions.
    Harry

  7. HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

    Cable underneath the fixing bolt, not above or thru the little plate??

  8. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:


    HarryB said:

    When I adjust the tension for the rear derailleur so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the smallest cogs, the tension seems to be too
    high when shifting among the largest ones (the chain attempts to climb
    onto the next larger cog.) When I adjust the tension so that the chain
    shifts smoothly between the larger cogs, it seems to be too low when
    shifting among the smaller cogs (I need to nudge the shifter to move
    the chain to the next larger cog.)

    I have not replaced any components that would affect the shifting
    other than replacing the derailleur cable. I've checked to see that
    nothing is binding. The chain is relatively new and has been recently
    lubed. I have flushed the shifter with WD-40 to no avail. I can feel
    and hear the normal clicks when I move the shift lever.

    The shifter is an Ultegra 9spd, the rear derailleur is an Deore XT and
    the cogset is a Shimano 11-34T. Any ideas as to what might be wrong?

    TIA,
    Harry

    Cable underneath the fixing bolt, not above or thru the little plate??

    Correct. There is a groove which I assume is the proper location for
    the cable.

    It appears that the problem is with the cogset. I still don't
    understand what went wrong with it since it doesn't appear that the
    cogs are bent nor the teeth excessively worn, but when I swapped it
    out with a different one, the shifting improved. I'm going to order a
    new one.

    Harry

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