Steve Kramer....WHO IS HE?

Orville Wright said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

...and why do we need to 'enjoy' these exchanges in so many
NGs?

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Orville Wright said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

I'm the guy who posts using his own name and address, and
lists the URL to my website. Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions"
Freelance Photography Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

You created your fake identity on June 4th. Less than two
weeks ago. Prior to that you didn't exist, but since then
you've made 66 posts in four different groups, most of which
have been fighting with people... Almost as impressive as
our soc.culture.thai trolls.

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

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"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

Because this ng has plumetted in recent years - nothing but
[censored] and garbage in what used be an interesting forum.

Thanks fella's!

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Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

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Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

**Steve Kramer is a 'Walter Mitty' character with a big
mouth and an enormous ego who set up a 'photography'
business in Thailand. Trouble is the silly old fool didn't
realise that one thing Thailand DOESN'T need is another
foreigner trying to muscle in on to their terrority. In a
desperate attempt to save his failing business he has turned
to spamming the newsgroups. He delights in bleating and
bragging that he writes and has adverts in all the leading
magazines in SE Asia. These magazines are actually hotel
lobby giveaways and in return for his scribbles he gets a
free advert.

To be honest, although Steve claims to write these articles
himself, I personally think he has his next door neighbours'
8 year old son write them for him. Here's an example of one
of Steve's columns:

gmorning.infophoto vision.htmOpen ↗

Steve is a bit of know-it-all and amongst his *many* claims
are that he is an expert award-winning photographer, expert
martial artist and kung-fu instructor, oriental swordsman,
super-diver, and a disabled Vietnam combat veteran, although
just how one gets to see combat in the catering corp is a
bit puzzling to me. One of his most hilarious claims was to
have kicked Charles Bronson's ass. He also claims to know
where the elephants lay down, so that should give you some
idea of how many screws he's got missing from his 'set'.

But be warned. Challenge the silly old buffoon on any of his
claims and he'll threaten you with anything and everything
in a desperate attempt to have you silenced. To date, most
of those threats have been empty and just plain ridiculouus.
But you never know. He's starting to lose his marbles, so
you need to be careful. Some of these nutcases can be *very*
unpredictable.

What is known about him though, is that he's a snitch. So if
say you're a visa-runner in Thailand, or if you've
overstayed your visa in Thailand then be warned, because
he'll turn you in.

You might find more info here:

takingthepiss.0catch.comstevekramerOpen ↗

Hope that helps... ;-)

LMAO!!!!!!!!! i wanted to post that topic for a long long
time already thanks Orville Wright, anyway, just tell me if
the Steve Kramer is an [censored] or he is a nice guys and
those his haters are [censored] instead?

(it's not O.K... i'm O.K.'s wife)

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Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

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Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

He is a delusional [censored] who needs urgent psychiatric help.
My advice is for him to lay down with an elephant; he claims
he knows where they go to do that so it should be easy for
him. If he takes my advice, let's hope one of the herd
mistake him for a misplaced turd when they wake up and stamp
on the sweating lump of [censored]. He has shown us that he has a
face that even a mother could not love and the character of
a retarded [censored] rat with attitude. That's our Stevie,
the butt of the group. ;-)

alright.. my husband just told me that he is a
photographer in Chianmai and his works is good but he is
kinda stucked up...

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Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

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Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

You know how Clark Kent is really Superman, well Steve
Kramer (aka Arthur Curry) is really Aquaman.

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Quoted message said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

*****Stevie is an old buffoon who lives in Dreamland.
Various people on various news groups bait him because the
silly old coot loves to feel important.

Stevie is one of those sad people that just can't resist.
He's a lot of fun though especially when he creates these
sock puppets that he has dialogue with. You can bet your
last dollar that any post saying Stevie is a great guy is
merely one of his own creations. Pickled Drunk was one of
his finest.

Here's an example of the piffle he writes..............

"Right. Compare the volume of my rec.scuba posts to the
Booze Brothers... I'm not so good with numbers, but even I
can see the difference. And I haven't started 76 separate
threads devoted to worshiping just one person, not even a
wonderful guy like you. I'd rather do diving. Think I
will... I hear that the whale sharks have been hanging
around the Burma Banks again, and this time I'm gonna get
his photo! So if I don't get back to you in the next 24
hours, you'll know I'm not deliberately evading you. (You go
play in on the 60-person boats and I'll go play on a live-
aboard.) I'm in route. Travel here is not as easy as or
regular as Amtrack. But I'll be back to listen to more of
your raving shortly when I reach a place with electricity
again. Doesn't that just make your day? LOL!

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand Three years, nine months,
one week, two days, 2 hours, 47 minutes and 1 second. 41343
cigarettes not smoked, saving $7,235.11. Life used for a
better purpose: 20 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 15 minutes.

I would like to know too!

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Orville Wright said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

I'm the guy who posts using his own name and address, and
lists the URL to my website. Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions"
Freelance Photography Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

**You're a low life SPAMMER.

Nothing more, nothing less.

This post of yours here proves it.

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You created your fake identity on June 4th. Less than two
weeks ago. Prior to that you didn't exist, but since then
you've made 66 posts in four different groups, most of
which have been fighting with people... Almost as
impressive as our soc.culture.thai trolls.

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

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"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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LMAO!!!!!!!!! i wanted to post that topic for a long long
time already thanks Orville Wright, anyway, just tell me
if the Steve Kramer is an [censored]

**Yes, he's an [censored]. :-)

Quoted message said:

or he is a nice guys and those his haters are [censored]
instead?

(it's not O.K... i'm O.K.'s wife)

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Quoted message said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

Why do we keep hearing so much about him?

O. K. said:

LMAO!!!!!!!!! i wanted to post that topic for a long long
time already thanks Orville Wright, anyway, just tell me
if the Steve Kramer is an [censored] or he is a nice guys and
those his haters are [censored] instead?

The best way to find out is to meet me and decide for
yourself. My phone is on from 9am until 10pm. I'll be happy
to meet for coffee anytime I'm not on assignment or running
photo safaris.

If you can't do that, then read the posts of the people who
use their 'real names' and will tell you their address when
they post, rather than anonymous postings or those created
within the last week or two. (You can find out using Google
who is brand new and created just for the sake of flaming.)

Remember, anonymous posters repeatedly show by their posts
why they are ashamed to associate their name with their
posts. Make your own decisions.

Read what the people who have met me in person say, not some
troll or flamer on a news group. Ask sincere questions in
rec.photo.equipment.35mm, rec.food.cooking and ask for
people who actually know me. They have known me for years
and will be happy to fill you in. Then decided for yourself.
It's not hard to find out the truth. :o)

Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography Chiang
Mai, Thailand photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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Orville Wright said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

I'm the guy who posts using his own name and address, and
lists the URL to my website. Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions"
Freelance Photography Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

You created your fake identity on June 4th. Less than two
weeks ago. Prior to that you didn't exist, but since then
you've made 66 posts in four different groups, most of
which have been fighting with people... Almost as
impressive as our soc.culture.thai trolls.

You have Thai Trolls??

LOL.....Keep digging that hole Steve, not long now before
you really screw things up again.

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Orville Wright said:

Who is this "Steve Kramer" guy?

I'm the guy who posts using his own name and address, and
lists the URL to my website. Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions"
Freelance Photography Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

You created your fake identity on June 4th. Less than two
weeks ago. Prior to that you didn't exist, but since then
you've made 66 posts in four different groups, most of
which have been fighting with people... Almost as
impressive as our soc.culture.thai trolls.

Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand
photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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I would like to know too!

You

would
?

Google is

Your

Friend.

T h e

Ra ng er

"Steve Kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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O. K. said:

LMAO!!!!!!!!! i wanted to post that topic for a long
long time already thanks Orville Wright, anyway, just
tell me if the Steve Kramer is an [censored] or he is a
nice guys and those his haters are [censored] instead?

The best way to find out is to meet me and decide for
yourself. My phone is on from 9am until 10pm. I'll be
happy to meet for coffee anytime I'm not on assignment or
running photo safaris.

**Anytime you're not on assignment or running photo
safaris???

What with trade being what it is, I guess you'll be
available *every* day then??? ;-)

well... i don't really know you and i don't really give a
damn to what those people said about you, but as i have
heard that your personality is stucked up but hey i saw ur
work is good though... i think it's normal for being
'stucked up' hehehe.. i'm a model and people knows
me...those who don't know me they think i'm stucked up cuz
they never came up and talk to
me...well... (does it have to do with me stucked up from
being a model? LMAO!!!! ) anyway... u got something good
in you and u r proud of it... i got something good in me,
and i am proud of it too...

m.f.'s wife (O.K.'s never post anything [censored]... LOL)

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O. K. said:

LMAO!!!!!!!!! i wanted to post that topic for a long
long time already thanks Orville Wright, anyway, just
tell me if the Steve Kramer is an [censored] or he is a
nice guys and those his haters are [censored] instead?

The best way to find out is to meet me and decide for
yourself. My phone is on from 9am until 10pm. I'll be
happy to meet for coffee anytime I'm not on assignment or
running photo safaris.

If you can't do that, then read the posts of the people
who use their 'real names' and will tell you their address
when they post, rather than anonymous postings or those
created within the last week or two. (You can find out
using Google who is brand new and created just for the
sake of flaming.)

Remember, anonymous posters repeatedly show by their posts
why they are ashamed to associate their name with their
posts. Make your own decisions.

Read what the people who have met me in person say, not
some troll or flamer on a news group. Ask sincere
questions in rec.photo.equipment.35mm, rec.food.cooking
and ask for people who actually know me. They have known
me for years and will be happy to fill you in. Then
decided for yourself. It's not hard to find out the
truth. :o)

Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography Chiang
Mai, Thailand photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

Steve Kramer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

The best way to find out is to meet me and decide for
yourself. My phone is on from 9am until 10pm. I'll be
happy to meet for coffee anytime I'm not on assignment or
running photo safaris.

If you can't do that, then read the posts of the people
who use their 'real names' and will tell you their address
when they post, rather than anonymous postings or those
created within the last week or two. (You can find out
using Google who is brand new and created just for the
sake of flaming.)

Remember, anonymous posters repeatedly show by their posts
why they are ashamed to associate their name with their
posts. Make your own decisions.

Read what the people who have met me in person say, not
some troll or flamer on a news group. Ask sincere
questions in rec.photo.equipment.35mm, rec.food.cooking
and ask for people who actually know me. They have known
me for years and will be happy to fill you in. Then
decided for yourself. It's not hard to find out the
truth. :o)

Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography Chiang
Mai, Thailand photoenvisions.comphotoenvisions.comOpen ↗

Steve, don't fall into the trap. I've known you for years
like many others have. You've never done anything that I can
recall except to quit smoking.

Ignore this stuff. It will go away. Someone is jealous or
feels threatened somehow.

Karen