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  1. Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? I'm looking for a new steel frame, and have
    narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one without.

    Comments?

    Thanks, John

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    Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? I'm looking for a new steel frame, and
    have narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one without.

    Don't know about the weight. I think it adds price.

    Ciao Maurizio, Bologna, Italy

  3. Maurizio said:

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    Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? I'm looking for a new steel frame, and
    have narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one without.

    Don't know about the weight. I think it adds price.

    It also adds opportunity for failure that a plain ol' steel frame won't have. The other thing to
    consider is that if the cycling world decides this isn't a good idea and stops building "two fork
    bikes", they'll be the equivalent of purple anodized parts on a MTB in a few years.

    Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame

  4. The claim is they reduce weight, reduce vibration and make you more fashionable.

    I suspect it reduced weight a little and reduced vibrations just a tab for a steel frame. It adds
    the possibility of trouble with breakage down the road.

    "Maurizio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "John Meerse" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? I'm looking for a new steel frame, and
    have narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one without.

    Don't know about the weight. I think it adds price.

    Ciao Maurizio, Bologna, Italy

  5. "Raymo853" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    The claim is they reduce weight, reduce vibration and make you more fashionable.

    I suspect it reduced weight a little and reduced vibrations just a tab


    for a

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    steel frame. It adds the possibility of trouble with breakage down


    the

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    road.

    I have been told that carbon forks (front and back) reduce "buzz." Getting a buzz used to be a good
    thing, at least back when I was in college. -- Jay Beattie.

  6. John-<< Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? >><BR><BR>

    Yes...

    << I'm looking for a new steel frame, and have narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one
    without. >><BR><BR>

    What on earth will carbon seat stays or even a carbon rear end do to help the performance of a
    steel(or ti for that matter) frameset???

    Yikes...marketing run amuck!!!!

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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    John-<< Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? >><BR><BR>

    Yes...

    << I'm looking for a new steel frame, and have narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one
    without. >><BR><BR>

    What on earth will carbon seat stays or even a carbon rear end do to help the performance of a
    steel(or ti for that matter) frameset???

    It helps the financial performance of the builder, it is faster/cheaper to glue on the rear triangle
    as opposed to all those brazed joints and carefully filed lugs. ;-)

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    Yikes...marketing run amuck!!!!

    Carbon rear triangles are the McRib sandwiches of bikedom. Blow molded, plastic imitations of the
    real thing.

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    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria

    I'll take a Pinarello Dogma, it'll look cool next to a Bates. Goofytech, is not just a carbon thing.

    Scott Goldsmith

  8. "Maurizio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "John Meerse" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Does a carbon rear triangle add weight to a steel frame? I'm looking for a new steel frame, and
    have narrowed the possibilities down to one with, one without.

    Don't know about the weight. I think it adds price.

    Ciao Maurizio, Bologna, Italy

    Yes, the carbon rear triangle adds weight as compared to a bike without a rear triangle. But it
    lightens your bank account for symmetry's sake.

    App

  9. Interesting reading......

    llewellynbikes.commaterialparts.htm

    "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... Scott-<< It helps the financial performance of
    the builder, >><BR><BR>

    you can say that twice, twice. Geezzzz, makers of framesets with carbon plugs and inserts and such
    in them can't even agree as to what they do. Aluminum says makes it more complient, titanium says it
    makes it stiffer...compact is the 'answer'...yikes again.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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