Start jump

Al said:

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DaKitty said:

"m. w. smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:23:49 -0800, DaKitty <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > Sorry, guess out nationals team coach has no clue. The one that

cranks

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> > out Olympians. Perhaps we should ask you.
>
> ...or just try starting both ways and see for yourself which way

works

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> better for you.

BTDT

> > Who are you anyway?
> >
> > Thanks for reminding me what a waster of time this group is.
>
> Since your coach cranks out olympians, he must be right about that

too.

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I wish you made sense.

Ask your coach to explain; he cranks out olympians. Ask him what BTDT stands for too, because I
don't know.

That stumped me too. Based on my google search I have it narrowed down to:

a.) a surreal reference to BTDT Capitol Corporation

b.) Been There Done That

Assuming option "b" represents Kitty's intent, I'd say good for her, but pass this recommendation
(I.e., try each method yourself) on as a caveat to whomever is asking about starts rather than
deal only in absolutes. I would also offer that there are likely to be quite a few other coaches
out there that also "crank out Olympians" that would advocate a symmetrical start (or at least
wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.)

By the way, Martin, your reference to the sword of Damocles in the other thread has you forever
endeared to me, like it or not :-). Sorry about your candidate dropping out too - I may well have
voted for him.

I'm sure he will remain active in some capacity. I don't think he will be the VP candidate, but he
might be a good secretary of defense. Now I am campaigning for a Kerry/Edwards ticket. I would
campaign for a Kerry/H. Clinton ticket, but I don't think she wants to run.

martin

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If you are a US citizen, please use your constitutional right to vote, because we badly need a new
president.

"DaKitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Does putting down others make you feel better? It certainly makes you look rather lame.

Not really. Pointing out the shortcomings of others i do as a service to them, so as they can
reflect upon how others see them. Just as i take your critical comments under advisement, so do i
expect you, and others to.

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So, what is your ASCA certification level?

since you asked:

i was granted the ASCA lvl 4 coach upon application, and also hold the ASA Coach (lvl4)
qualification in the UK. I hold a a BSc (hons) First Class in Exercise Science-
Physiology/Psychology, an MS in Human Performance-Exercise Physiology, i also hold an equivalent of
an Associate Degree in Sports Management. I have had research related to swimming psychology and
training physiology presented at regional and national (ACSM) conferences and symposia. In terms of
acheivement of swimmers, since my arrival here in the USA i have been the primary coach of 17 NCAA
DIII All-Americans (46 swims in total), and since i took up the position in USS club swimming
instead of going for my Doctorate at UTK, (september 2003), have produced three wisconsin state
record holders, (although i take only minor credit for them), as well as swimmers ranked with Top 16
times. Take a look at my club's website for a run down of our Top 16 placings for this period.

at the age of 26, i'm pretty pleased with my record thus far.

Whats your ASCA certification level?

steve

"DaKitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'm always baffled by anyone that takes anything posted on a Usenet newsgroup as an absolute
anyway. Seems like they can't see the forest from the trees, and take themselves

way

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too seriously. Just about nothing in life is an absolute anyway, and those people that

see

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things as absolute, or black and white... well, let's just say, I can understand where their
constant aggravation comes from. It must be tough

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the ever changing world to see everything as an absolute. What a perfect setup for disappointment,
by anything and everything.

So, naturally, this explains why you get upset and [censored] as soon as someone challenges
your opinion?

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. I hold a a BSc (hons) First Class in Exercise Science-Physiology/Psychology, an MS in Human Performance-
Exercise Physiology, i also hold an equivalent of an Associate Degree in Sports Management. I
have had research related to swimming psychology and training physiology presented at regional
and national (ACSM) conferences and symposia.

What was the title of your theses? I wonder where do people study exercise physiology in Britain -
Academy of Physical Education/medical University- what faculty?

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Gosia PL

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I'm always baffled by anyone that takes anything posted on a Usenet newsgroup as an absolute
anyway. Seems like they can't see the forest from the trees, and take themselves way too
seriously.

It's certainly true that a great deal gets lost in translation when one relies on the written word
in the online (usenet, email, etc.) context. I'm sure we all know people that come across great face
to face, yet appear to be inarticulate brutes (I'm not saying that's what you are) via email, for
example. And I'm the first to admit that, in the absence of knowing someone, I get the wrong idea in
my head about what they're trying to say when I only have a usenet post or email to work with. But
like you point out, that's the nature of the beast - which for me means you have to lean over
backwards *not* to come across as thinking exclusively in black and white terms. To simply say the
symmetrical start is slower and leave it at that begs for misinterpretation, particularly since the
subject is so controversial to begin with (surely you won't deny that?)

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Just about nothing in life is an absolute anyway, and those people that see things as absolute, or
black and white... well, let's just say, I can understand where their constant aggravation comes
from. It must be tough in the ever changing world to see everything as an absolute. What a perfect
setup for disappointment, by anything and everything.

For what it's worth, I can vouch for the fact that seeing *nothing* as an absolute ain't no bed of
roses, either :-)

- Al

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... [...]

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I'm sure he will remain active in some capacity. I don't think he will be the VP candidate, but he
might be a good secretary of defense. Now I am campaigning for a Kerry/Edwards ticket. I would
campaign for a Kerry/H. Clinton ticket, but I don't think she wants to run.

I agree, I think he'd be great in Defense.

- Al

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In article <vlWWb.15775$IF1.5079@fed1read01>, [email hidden] says... [...]

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I'm always baffled by anyone that takes anything posted on a Usenet newsgroup as an absolute
anyway. Seems like they can't see the forest from the trees, and take themselves

way

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too seriously.

It's certainly true that a great deal gets lost in translation when one relies on the written word
in the online (usenet, email, etc.) context. I'm sure we all know people that come across great
face to face, yet appear to be inarticulate brutes (I'm not saying that's what you are) via email,
for example. And I'm the first to admit that, in the absence of knowing someone, I get the wrong
idea in my head about what they're trying to say when I only have a usenet post or email to work
with. But like you point out, that's the nature of the beast - which for me means you have to lean
over backwards *not* to come across as thinking exclusively in black and white terms. To simply
say the symmetrical start is slower and leave it at that begs for misinterpretation, particularly
since the subject is so controversial to begin with (surely you won't deny that?)

Again, I take usenet with a big grain of salt, so usenet controversies usually go in one ear and out
the other. When I look at more professional sources, there seems to be less of a controversy than I
see here; where people like to argue and intelectualize ad infinitum. I might even be inclined to
give certain discussions more merit, if at some point they didn't become a bonefire of vanities.
Really, the only person with whom I could have a knock down drag out argument with, and then kiss an
make up at the end is Larry. Just about every other guy that tried to argue with me ended up with a
long standing bruised ego, and any further discussion with those individuals no longer deals with
facts, but rather with them chasing me around wanting me to validate their feelings. And going about
it in a way that will not accomplish this. Makes me wanna tell them, if you can't stand the heat,
get out of the kitchen.

So, considering the individuals the comments came from, had I said "the sky is blue" they would have
come up with some sort of a condescending opposition. It's really lame and unstimulating.

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Just about nothing in life is an absolute anyway, and those people that

see

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things as absolute, or black and white... well, let's just say, I can understand where their
constant aggravation comes from. It must be tough

in

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the ever changing world to see everything as an absolute. What a perfect setup for
disappointment, by anything and everything.

For what it's worth, I can vouch for the fact that seeing *nothing* as an absolute ain't no bed of
roses, either :-)

- Al

Life ain't no bed of roses, but it sure feels better when one is flexible.

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. I hold a a BSc (hons) First Class in Exercise Science-Physiology/Psychology, an MS in Human

Performance-Exercise

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Physiology, i also hold an equivalent of an Associate Degree in Sports Management. I have had
research related to swimming psychology and

training

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physiology presented at regional and national (ACSM) conferences and symposia.

My coach is getting level V certification this year, has a Masters Degree in sports Psychology and
Psycho-physiology, and a BS in psychology. Been coaching since 1970's Has been published many times
in USA Swimming, USMS, and a number of other places. I have his 'rap sheet' here as I'm writing a
letter for his coach of the year nomination.

My undergraduate thesis was concerning bicarbonate loading in field vs lab environments. My Master's
thesis was done again on sodium bicarbonate loading, and i believe is probably available in
Microfiche also was presented at ACSM 2003.

I completed my undergraduate degree at University of Leeds, then transferred to University of
Teesside. My Master's was done at University of Wisconsin.

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. I hold a a BSc (hons) First Class in Exercise Science-Physiology/Psychology, an MS in Human

Performance-Exercise

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Physiology, i also hold an equivalent of an Associate Degree in Sports Management. I have had
research related to swimming psychology and

training

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physiology presented at regional and national (ACSM) conferences and symposia.

What was the title of your theses? I wonder where do people study exercise physiology in Britain -
Academy of Physical Education/medical University- what faculty?

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Gosia PL