Start at the valve?

"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

That's what I always do. Taking off the tire, it probably doesn't matter too
mcuh. Putting the tire back on, the part of the bead most likely to pinch
the tube is the last part you push on. If the last part is at the valve
stem, you can push the valve stem in and out a couple of times to unpinch
before you inflate.

franz josef always rotated his tires
and double checked the printer
whic goes to show....

to show that herr josef rotated the tire around the rim-rumor has it
that he was on his way fom the printer to the test track when gunned
down.

Ken said:

"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

That's what I always do. Taking off the tire, it probably doesn't matter too
mcuh. Putting the tire back on, the part of the bead most likely to pinch
the tube is the last part you push on. If the last part is at the valve
stem, you can push the valve stem in and out a couple of times to unpinch
before you inflate.

There's logic to in that, but what do you do to avoid the valve ending
up tilted and risking tearing it apart when pumping the tube on the
road? If you fit the tube inside the tyre ending at the fixed point it's
a lot trickier to get the tube evenly laid out.

Jan Lindström

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There's logic to in that, but what do you do to avoid the valve ending
up tilted and risking tearing it apart when pumping the tube on the
road? If you fit the tube inside the tyre ending at the fixed point it's
a lot trickier to get the tube evenly laid out.

Pump up the tube a little before mounting the tire bead. That should give the
tube some shape and keep the valve stem straight. If you really want to, you
can use the valve nut, too, though I usually toss those out.

David L. Johnson said:

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

I have always done the opposite and it has always worked for me. A
grouchy old mechanic once told me that it's harder to get a tight tire
on if you end at the valve.

-Vee

maybe the belted ones meant to write-take the TUBE out starting at the
nipple?
tube nipples are placed into the hole.
then one dances three times in a circle and tosses ground newt to the
west
then using both hands-one on eoither side of the tube's nipple
you implore the gods to get this together
and proceed to equally thumb the tube into the crevasse between tire
and rim
soas the nipple stays balanced by the equal thumb pull and centered in
the hole.
unless you were in indiana last weekend

David L. Johnson said:

I grabbed a couple of new tubes Friday night, since I had had 2 flats (a
flat and a failed spare) the last time I rode.

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

I find this to be odd. I always start removing the tire, and putting it
back, as far from the valve as possible. I've always thought that this
would lessen the chance of damaging the tube around the valve.

Am I doing it wrong, or are they making suggestions that will tend to
create a market for more new tubes?

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David L. Johnson said:

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

Starting at the valve when removing may or may not be a good idea; I
don't, but I can't say that it makes a difference. Finishing the
installation at the valve strikes me as questionable; I've had more
problems with pinch when I've tried that.

Quoted message said:

I find this to be odd. I always start removing the tire, and putting it
back, as far from the valve as possible. I've always thought that this
would lessen the chance of damaging the tube around the valve.

Am I doing it wrong, or are they making suggestions that will tend to
create a market for more new tubes?

I think it's probably a matter of taste, preference and experience,
and the person who wrote the procedure was applying their own. If I'm
completely wrong, someone will doubtless say so.
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Werehatrack said:

David L. Johnson said:

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It
says, in several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at
the valve. ... Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

Starting at the valve when removing may or may not be a good idea; I
don't, but I can't say that it makes a difference. Finishing the
installation at the valve strikes me as questionable; I've had more
problems with pinch when I've tried that.

Quoted message said:

I find this to be odd. I always start removing the tire, and
putting it back, as far from the valve as possible. I've always
thought that this would lessen the chance of damaging the tube
around the valve.

Am I doing it wrong, or are they making suggestions that will tend to
create a market for more new tubes?

I think it's probably a matter of taste, preference and experience,
and the person who wrote the procedure was applying their own. If I'm
completely wrong, someone will doubtless say so.

Nope, I agree with you (which doubtless means you ARE totally wrong!). I
/start/ installing a tire at the valve so I can get the beads "into" the rim
easier there; I /remove/ a tire starting AWAY from the valve, so there's no
thick rubber to deal with there.

Seems to work...

B

"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I grabbed a couple of new tubes Friday night, since I had had 2 flats (a
flat and a failed spare) the last time I rode.

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

I find this to be odd. I always start removing the tire, and putting it
back, as far from the valve as possible. I've always thought that this
would lessen the chance of damaging the tube around the valve.

Am I doing it wrong, or are they making suggestions that will tend to
create a market for more new tubes?

In his books Leonard Zinn also advocates ending at the value. It makes it
easier to push the bead over the rim because the bead on the opposite side
can ride in the "valley" of the rim... that's makes the rim "smaller" in
diameter so it's easier to push the bead on. You can't do this if you end
away from the value because the valve prevents the bead from dropping into
the "valley". See page 158 in his Cycling Primer.

Zinn does what?

Bestest Handsander said:

"David L. Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I grabbed a couple of new tubes Friday night, since I had had 2 flats (a
flat and a failed spare) the last time I rode.

Idly looked at the box the tubes (Michelin Aircomp) came in. It says, in
several languages, "To remove your tyre, always start at the valve. ...
Always finish fitting the tyre at the valve."

I find this to be odd. I always start removing the tire, and putting it
back, as far from the valve as possible. I've always thought that this
would lessen the chance of damaging the tube around the valve.

Am I doing it wrong, or are they making suggestions that will tend to
create a market for more new tubes?

In his books Leonard Zinn also advocates ending at the value. It makes it
easier to push the bead over the rim because the bead on the opposite side
can ride in the "valley" of the rim... that's makes the rim "smaller" in
diameter so it's easier to push the bead on. You can't do this if you end
away from the value because the valve prevents the bead from dropping into
the "valley". See page 158 in his Cycling Primer.

If you finish with the valve at 3 or 9 o'clock, you avoid both that
problem and the problem Bill S. mentions.

i hate to say this but leonard zinn has obfuscated

Quoted message said:

i hate to say this but leonard zinn has obfuscated

Dear Gene,

Er . . . whatever you mean, surely you of all people can
forgive him for this sin.

Foggily,

Carl Fogel

can't relate to the quoted passage.
doan make no sense.
darkens the meanings
the nipple is the first resort not the last
with a 27x1-1/4
but maybe not lesser species: here i give ground.

as far as i can tell-
one holds the lightly inflated tube with fingers top thumb
bottom-unless of course-one hand either side of a ceneterd nipple
and rolls the tube into the tire and under the slime liner with the
fingers as thumb pushes the bottom tube up and in.
then the tire gets rolled into the rim.
then pinch the tire's bottom edges inward extensively.
inflate- hoping the nipple stays cenetred