Starch intolerance?

That's exactly how you learned your way up to 350 pounds.

Simply brilliant.

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funny.. I could have sworn I never said they where.. I paid the price.. no
weight loss in over a week. Too much salt and too many saltines.. Though
thankfully MY success does not depend on one cheat. Your life may spin
off
its axis but I learn from it and move on.

Tori

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Saltines are not low carb.

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Could be.. I got the attack of the crunchies the other night so I had
saltines with sardines.. paid for it with water retention. I really
wanted
cream cheese and celery but it was too late at night to go get it.

Tori

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I've found over the past few months that if I indulge myself in ANY
> starchy foods now, I get ill. The only exception is small amounts of
> canned or fresh corn (on the cob). Bread I know makes me ill due to
> the
> wheat proteins but I also cannot eat potatoes or rice anymore. Not
> even
> brown rice.
>
> Last night I indulged myself in 1/2 of a bag of Act II popcorn.
>
> Several hours later, I'm still sick from it. :-P
>
> WTF?
>
> Not that it's a bad thing as it'll force me to avoid allowing myself
> that kind of thing.
>
> I was out of pork rinds and I had an attack of the "crunchies".
>
> <sigh>
>
> Comments?
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bailey's Girl <.@.>

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Or I'll pop it all and feed it to the chickens.......

Om --

Assuming you're serious, have you done that before? Do they handle the
hulls okay?

Thanks

Chickens and ducks have no problems with popcorn. :-)
I've given it to them before when some dumbass gives me one of those
gift cans of 3 flavored popcorn for Christmas!

My bad -- I "re-gift" it. lol

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Yeah, I'm serious. They would enjoy it as a treat!

I give mine my veggie scraps. They act like they're in heaven. :-)

My hen chicken took one of the dog's bones away once and wished I had a
video camera to record that. We laughed long after the show was over.

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Most likely tho' I'll just give the rest of the box to Lynn' for her and
her kids. They can handle it just fine and it will be out of the house
that way.

I just won't buy anymore...

At this point, that's about the only thing that works for me, too. I
have two things in the house that I won't eat -- The Kid has some cereal
and Hubby likes oatmeal (but what he does with it is gross, so it's not
tempting to me).

Other than that, there's nothing I can think of we have in the cupboards
that I like, but don't eat. Safety first. lol

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Measurements: 8 inches gone 06/19/2005
Cholesterol: 145
FBG: < 100 since 07/01/2005 A1c 6.5

In article <[email hidden]>, Bailey's Girl <.@.>

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Bailey's Girl <.@.>

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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

>Or I'll pop it all and feed it to the chickens.......

Om --

Assuming you're serious, have you done that before? Do they handle the
hulls okay?

Thanks

Chickens and ducks have no problems with popcorn. :-)
I've given it to them before when some dumbass gives me one of those
gift cans of 3 flavored popcorn for Christmas!

My bad -- I "re-gift" it. lol

So do I. ;-) To the poultry...

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Yeah, I'm serious. They would enjoy it as a treat!

I give mine my veggie scraps. They act like they're in heaven. :-)

Indeed! I save all food scraps in a container on the sink.
2 benefits, the poultry love it and it keeps the trashcans from stinking
like rotting garbage.

I also feed them garden weeds.

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My hen chicken took one of the dog's bones away once and wished I had a
video camera to record that. We laughed long after the show was over.

OMG! I'll bet that was hilarious! ;-D

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Quoted message said:

Most likely tho' I'll just give the rest of the box to Lynn' for her and
her kids. They can handle it just fine and it will be out of the house
that way.

I just won't buy anymore...

At this point, that's about the only thing that works for me, too. I
have two things in the house that I won't eat -- The Kid has some cereal
and Hubby likes oatmeal (but what he does with it is gross, so it's not
tempting to me).

Funny too. That box of popcorn has gone unopened on top of the 'frige
now for a good 2 months.

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Other than that, there's nothing I can think of we have in the cupboards
that I like, but don't eat. Safety first. lol

Yep! And now that my housemate is getting more used to low carb, I can
get rid of more stuff!

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

not planning on it.. why is it that something sounds so good then after
usualy is a let down.. I feel the same way about most movies 😉

Tori

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Yah, just don't go there again.

I sympathize. Saltines were second only to chips for me in terms of
my areas of carb overindulgence.

Tori M said:

funny.. I could have sworn I never said they where.. I paid the price..

no

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight loss in over a week. Too much salt and too many saltines..

Though

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thankfully MY success does not depend on one cheat. Your life may spin

off

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its axis but I learn from it and move on.

Tori

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Saltines are not low carb.

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MFW

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"Tori M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Could be.. I got the attack of the crunchies the other night so I

had

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Quoted message said:

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> saltines with sardines.. paid for it with water retention. I

really

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> wanted
> cream cheese and celery but it was too late at night to go get it.
>
> Tori
>
> --
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> Bonnie- 03/20/02 "Mommy look a cloud worm is eating the care bears"
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> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> I've found over the past few months that if I indulge myself in ANY
>> starchy foods now, I get ill. The only exception is small amounts

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> canned or fresh corn (on the cob). Bread I know makes me ill due to

the

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>> wheat proteins but I also cannot eat potatoes or rice anymore. Not

even

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Quoted message said:

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>> brown rice.
>>
>> Last night I indulged myself in 1/2 of a bag of Act II popcorn.
>>
>> Several hours later, I'm still sick from it. :-P
>>
>> WTF?
>>
>> Not that it's a bad thing as it'll force me to avoid allowing

myself

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> that kind of thing.
>>
>> I was out of pork rinds and I had an attack of the "crunchies".
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> Comments?
>> --
>> Om.
>>
>> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a

son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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> Nicholson
>
>

Actualy this is the first time I have really put an effort at dieting in
anyway... I have never lost more then 10 lbs before because honnestly I did
not care.. now I do.. but I am human and like to test my limits.. Someone
offered me an oreo cookie I said no thanks I could have the molasis cookies
my MIL made and I said no.. to me the crackers are not a big deal because
just a few months ago I would eat 2-3 big meals loaded with carbs and then
also have crackers for the snack.. now I know I can not do that due to fluid
retention.. I had no problem sticking to a serving.

Tori

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That's exactly how you learned your way up to 350 pounds.

Simply brilliant.

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"Tori M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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funny.. I could have sworn I never said they where.. I paid the price..

no

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight loss in over a week. Too much salt and too many saltines..

Though

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

thankfully MY success does not depend on one cheat. Your life may spin
off
its axis but I learn from it and move on.

Tori

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Saltines are not low carb.

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MFW

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"Tori M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Could be.. I got the attack of the crunchies the other night so I had
> saltines with sardines.. paid for it with water retention. I really
> wanted
> cream cheese and celery but it was too late at night to go get it.
>
> Tori
>
> --
> Xavier- 10/27/05 "Oooohh whats that on the floor? a dime? Yummy!"
> Bonnie- 03/20/02 "Mommy look a cloud worm is eating the care bears"
> 349.5/319/135
> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> I've found over the past few months that if I indulge myself in ANY
>> starchy foods now, I get ill. The only exception is small amounts of
>> canned or fresh corn (on the cob). Bread I know makes me ill due to
>> the
>> wheat proteins but I also cannot eat potatoes or rice anymore. Not
>> even
>> brown rice.
>>
>> Last night I indulged myself in 1/2 of a bag of Act II popcorn.
>>
>> Several hours later, I'm still sick from it. :-P
>>
>> WTF?
>>
>> Not that it's a bad thing as it'll force me to avoid allowing myself
>> that kind of thing.
>>
>> I was out of pork rinds and I had an attack of the "crunchies".
>>
>> <sigh>
>>
>> Comments?
>> --
>> Om.
>>
>> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a

son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Nicholson
>
>

celery has a nice crunch when a crunch is needed 😉 Now a crisp is anouther
issue :-/

Tori

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Tori M said:

Could be.. I got the attack of the crunchies the other night so I had
saltines with sardines.. paid for it with water retention. I really

wanted

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cream cheese and celery but it was too late at night to go get it.

Tori

Hmmmmmmm... Did not think of celery.
I try to keep at least one head on hand and there was some.

Duh. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack

Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tori M said:

Actualy this is the first time I have really put an effort at dieting in
anyway... I have never lost more then 10 lbs before because honnestly I did
not care.. now I do.. but I am human and like to test my limits.. Someone
offered me an oreo cookie I said no thanks I could have the molasis cookies
my MIL made and I said no.. to me the crackers are not a big deal because
just a few months ago I would eat 2-3 big meals loaded with carbs and then
also have crackers for the snack.. now I know I can not do that due to fluid
retention.. I had no problem sticking to a serving.

Tori

It's really easy to slide back though. The whole "I didn't have that
birthday cake at the office so it's ok to have this muffin" mentality
can be dangerous.

--
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Crackers are not low carb.

--
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to me the crackers are not a big deal

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Tori M said:

Actualy this is the first time I have really put an effort at dieting in
anyway... I have never lost more then 10 lbs before because honnestly I

did

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not care.. now I do.. but I am human and like to test my limits..

Someone

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

offered me an oreo cookie I said no thanks I could have the molasis

cookies

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

my MIL made and I said no.. to me the crackers are not a big deal

because

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just a few months ago I would eat 2-3 big meals loaded with carbs and

then

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

also have crackers for the snack.. now I know I can not do that due to

fluid

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retention.. I had no problem sticking to a serving.

Tori

It's really easy to slide back though. The whole "I didn't have that
birthday cake at the office so it's ok to have this muffin" mentality
can be dangerous.

Yes but luckily since low carb I have realized something.. I dont like cake
😉 Actualy I need my carbs to be near 40 to lose.. 20 is too low and I have
a hard time eating enough veggies to do that MOST days.. I like getting them
out of the way in the morning so I can burn um off before dinner.. Dinner is
usualy just protien. I dont eat when I am not hungry.

Tori

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nope they are not.. though that fiber cracker seemed interesting 😉

Tori

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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Crackers are not low carb.

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"Tori M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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to me the crackers are not a big deal

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tori M said:

celery has a nice crunch when a crunch is needed 😉 Now a crisp is anouther
issue :-/

Tori

Pork rinds.
The hard ones, not the puffy ones.
I can't eat many, they are satisfying
and a little goes a long way.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Tori M said:

Actualy this is the first time I have really put an effort at dieting in
anyway... I have never lost more then 10 lbs before because honnestly I did
not care.. now I do.. but I am human and like to test my limits.. Someone
offered me an oreo cookie I said no thanks I could have the molasis cookies
my MIL made and I said no.. to me the crackers are not a big deal because
just a few months ago I would eat 2-3 big meals loaded with carbs and then
also have crackers for the snack.. now I know I can not do that due to fluid
retention.. I had no problem sticking to a serving.

Tori

It's really easy to slide back though. The whole "I didn't have that
birthday cake at the office so it's ok to have this muffin" mentality
can be dangerous.

Ugh. Don't go there. ;-)
Muffins are not low carb! <lol>

Spunkmeier chocolate chocolate chip muffins are to die for served hot
with butter. :-( It's been a few years since I've had one.

<sigh>

Fortunately, my sweet tooth got pulled ages ago so I'm not really
tempted...
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Spunkmeier chocolate chocolate chip muffins are to die for served hot
with butter. :-( It's been a few years since I've had one.

I prefer the Banana Nut. Too bad that particular mix of fat and carbs is
way overboard.

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JC Der Koenig said:

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Spunkmeier chocolate chocolate chip muffins are to die for served hot
with butter. :-( It's been a few years since I've had one.

I prefer the Banana Nut. Too bad that particular mix of fat and carbs is
way overboard.

Indeed! :-P

Fortunately, chocolate IS low carb as long as you don't add sugar to it.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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nope they are not.. though that fiber cracker seemed interesting 😉

I bought some fiber crackers a few weeks ago and, while I thought they
tasted like tree bark minus the sap - lol - they were good for running
through my food processor and adding to meat loaf 🙂.

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LOL I got some TVP for that but it is too hot to run the oven to make the
meat loaf.

Tori

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nope they are not.. though that fiber cracker seemed interesting 😉

I bought some fiber crackers a few weeks ago and, while I thought they
tasted like tree bark minus the sap - lol - they were good for running
through my food processor and adding to meat loaf 🙂.

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Spunkmeier chocolate chocolate chip muffins are to die for served hot
with butter. :-( It's been a few years since I've had one.

I prefer the Banana Nut. Too bad that particular mix of fat and carbs is
way overboard.

Indeed! :-P

Fortunately, chocolate IS low carb as long as you don't add sugar to it.

That is something up with which I can not put.

I have not used it either.. kinda looks like chunks of white dog food.. lol
I would try one plain but it does not look apealing that way 😉

Tori

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LOL I got some TVP for that but it is too hot to run the oven to make

the

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meat loaf.

I try to get lots of fiber so I add it where I can...what is TVP like?

I've

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heard of it but never used it.

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LOL I got some TVP for that but it is too hot to run the oven to make the
meat loaf.

I try to get lots of fiber so I add it where I can...what is TVP like? I've
heard of it but never used it.

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OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

I've found over the past few months that if I indulge myself in ANY
starchy foods now, I get ill.

My opinion:

The way I felt before I started low carbing was what I thought
"normal" was.

On 21 Jul 1999 I started Atkins and my health began to change
for the better. I learned what foods trigger intolerance
symptoms, what foods cause blood sugar swings, you name it.

What I NOW think is "normal" is a level of health I don't
think I ever had before I started low carbing. But NOW I
think it's normal.

Now if I go back to feeling what used to be "normal" before
I started low carbing, I call it being ill. I'm more
sensative to my health and I have higher standards now for
what counts as ill. Even with those higher standards I get
ill a lot less often.

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The only exception is small amounts of
canned or fresh corn (on the cob).

Corn meet Om. Om meet corn. The two of you may end up
regular teammates during Maintenance. ;^)