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  1. I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

  2. Glitter Ninja said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.

    Cooking at home is a good place to start. You can eat pretty well at home
    for less than it costs for a fast food junk, and much healthier.

    Quoted message said:

    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.

    First of all, buy berries in smaller quantities and use them up quickly,
    then have longer lasting fruits the rest of the week, like apples and
    pears. You may get a little more life out of your berries by putting them
    in a bowl with some sugar. If you must have berries, get enough for a few
    days and make another trip later in the week. Mushrooms will keep better in
    a paper bag than in plastic, and buy them while, not sliced.

  3. On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:11:31 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Glitter

    Ninja) said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

    Dried mushrooms will last forever if sealed well, though you won't
    find them on sale too often at the local supermarket. You can, though,
    find them at places like Costco or frozen in wonderful combinations at
    Trader Joe's.

    There is not too much you can do to keep lettuce fresh beyond the
    basics of wrapping in paper towel & plastic, so think about other
    types of salads...cucumbers with onions in a vinaigrette and later
    with a dab of sour cream can last a few days. Make a 3 bean salad.
    It'll last in the fridge, as will coleslaw.

    Stick to fruits that last longer than berries...apples, in season or
    citrus. By some greenish bananas & let them ripen on your counter. You
    can get frozen berries of all types (again, if you can get to a
    warehouse store, you'd have a month's worth in a bag) and use them
    over ice cream or in shortcakes or cook with them in cakes, pies or
    crumbles. I've always been a fan of canned peaches.They are great
    broiled with a bit of brown sugar. There is a lot of dried fruit
    available, too, but again, you need to get more creative with it.

    One thing that will save you time and money is to cook ahead on the
    weekends and freeze portions. Lasagna, stews, pot roasts, etc, all
    freeze well and when you find yourself tired with little time to
    prepare, pop one of your weekend preps in the microwave.

    Boron

  4. [email hidden] (Glitter Ninja) wrote in news:d9pmhj$hc0$1
    @news.xmission.com:

    Quoted message said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy,


    lettuce

    Quoted message said:

    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK


    if

    Quoted message said:

    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

    Well right off the bat, I'd recommend getting bulk staples from the
    warehouses like Sams, Costco, Fart and Smile, etc.

    Aside from that, as far as fresh goes, I visit my produce market
    practically every day. It's totally fun, imho.

    Good luck,

    --
    Andy
    http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

  5. Glitter Ninja said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!
    Stacia

    We live in the desert and don't get good fresh berries. Frozen whole,
    unsweetened is a good bet, even for strawberries. Can't use them quite the
    same, but they are not bad for all that. Sliced (while still frozen!)
    strawberries sprinkled with splenda or sugar on angel food cake (which keeps
    well wrapped in the fridge) is a healthful dessert. I plan on using
    mushrooms with a few days of purchase. Also have dried which I crumble into
    foods instead of whole. I believe those green plastic bags for produce
    actually work pretty well as long as the foods are not overly damp.
    Edrena

  6. Andy Q said:

    Well right off the bat, I'd recommend getting bulk staples from the
    warehouses like Sams, Costco, Fart and Smile, etc.

    Uh. Not that I'm not laughing, but what is a Fart & Smile?

    Quoted message said:

    Aside from that, as far as fresh goes, I visit my produce market
    practically every day. It's totally fun, imho.

    I should have mentioned that I'm in Kansas, and we don't always have
    the best produce markets around. The two small ones we do have are
    ravaged like a prom queen because the town is so hungry for good veggies
    and fruits. Maybe I should make it a point to get to them early every
    day... that does sound like fun. I could whap at the old ladies with my
    purse.

    Stacia

  7. The Joneses said:

    mushrooms with a few days of purchase. Also have dried which I crumble into
    foods instead of whole. I believe those green plastic bags for produce
    actually work pretty well as long as the foods are not overly damp.

    Hmm, two people have mentioned dried shrooms. Are they not slimey
    when you hydrate them? I just assumed since they were wet, they would
    get that slimey filmy thing going on.
    I can't wait until I am a hausfrau again. I've been working major
    overtime constantly for 4 1/2 years and have almost forgotten how to
    cook.

    Stacia

  8. Glitter Ninja said:


    Hmm, two people have mentioned dried shrooms. Are they not slimey
    when you hydrate them?

    Personally, I don't like them - at all. Just the wrong consistency.

    Quoted message said:

    I just assumed since they were wet, they would
    get that slimey filmy thing going on.
    I can't wait until I am a hausfrau again. I've been working major
    overtime constantly for 4 1/2 years and have almost forgotten how to
    cook.

    Stacia

    Get yerself a Tupperware salad spinner - you can keep a green salad
    alive in those things for a week. Same goes for the plastic "veggie
    bags" made specifically for vegetables - I forget who makes them.

    -L.

  9. [email hidden] (Glitter Ninja) wrote in news:d9pqk7$ka4$2
    @news.xmission.com:

    Quoted message said:
    Andy Q said:

    Well right off the bat, I'd recommend getting bulk staples from the
    warehouses like Sams, Costco, Fart and Smile, etc.

    Uh. Not that I'm not laughing, but what is a Fart & Smile?

    Smart and Final, the beginning of warehouse food shopping, iirc.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Aside from that, as far as fresh goes, I visit my produce market
    practically every day. It's totally fun, imho.

    Maybe I should make it a point to get to them early every
    day... that does sound like fun. I could whap at the old ladies with
    my purse.

    Those little old ladies are, for me, the greatest living food reference
    on the planet! I'll ask you not to WHAP them, plase! 🙂

    --
    Andy
    http://tinyurl.com/bczgr

  10. Glitter Ninja said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy,
    lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK
    if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

    For flavour use dehydrated mushrooms, the soaking water to rehydrate
    them can be used in the cooking, dehydrated veggie of all sorts are
    available and go well in soups and stocks, if you grow your own sprouts
    grow extra and gently dry them in a warm oven and make a powder of them
    that not only adds a bit of flavour but is nutritious also.

    There are dried fruits that can be had and while not as good as fresh
    are better than nothing and have a good long shelf life. Banana chips
    and dried apricot are kept around here in a glass jar for use on cereal.

    Cabbage keps a bit longer than lettuce.

    Get a good multi vitamine and try to use as much fresh food as you can
    get & use quickly.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

  11. Glitter Ninja said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy,
    lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK
    if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

    For flavour use dehydrated mushrooms, the soaking water to rehydrate
    them can be used in the cooking, dehydrated veggie of all sorts are
    available and go well in soups and stocks, if you grow your own sprouts
    grow extra and gently dry them in a warm oven and make a powder of them
    that not only adds a bit of flavour but is nutritious also.

    There are dried fruits that can be had and while not as good as fresh
    are better than nothing and have a good long shelf life. Banana chips
    and dried apricot are kept around here in a glass jar for use on cereal.

    Cabbage keps a bit longer than lettuce.

    Get a good multi vitamine and try to use as much fresh food as you can
    get & use quickly.
    ---
    Joseph Littleshoes

  12. On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:22:47 -0400, Dave Smith
    <[email hidden]> connected the dots and wrote:

    ~Glitter Ninja wrote:
    ~
    ~> I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    ~> planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while,
    and
    ~> part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead
    of
    ~> fast or frozen foods.
    ~
    ~Cooking at home is a good place to start. You can eat pretty well at
    home
    ~for less than it costs for a fast food junk, and much healthier.
    ~
    ~
    ~> Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    ~> veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    ~> quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy,
    lettuce
    ~> turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    ~
    ~First of all, buy berries in smaller quantities and use them up
    quickly,
    ~then have longer lasting fruits the rest of the week, like apples and
    ~pears. You may get a little more life out of your berries by putting
    them
    ~in a bowl with some sugar. If you must have berries, get enough for
    a few
    ~days and make another trip later in the week. Mushrooms will keep
    better in
    ~a paper bag than in plastic, and buy them while, not sliced.
    ~

    If the fridge is cold enough, the fresh produce can survive up to a
    week, altho it will get a little limp or squidgey<tm> towards the end.

    Lettuce: Do not wash until ready to use. Wrap the head, including
    the cut portion, in a damp paper towel after slicing off a very thin
    bit of the cut end.

    Berries: again, don't wash, but do put a paper towel in the bottom,
    and keep the bottom of the container off the shelf so that air can
    flow all around. When they start getting soft spots, if you're not
    ready to use them, cut out the soft spot, and slice the rest of the
    berry. Sprinkle with sugar (and a little ginger powder for a treat!)
    and refrigerate covered.

    Mushroom: unwrap them, put a dry paper towel in the bottom of a paper
    bag, and add the mushrooms. If they start to get soft, slice and
    saute them, then store in the fridge up to 3 days.

    If carrots or celery get limp, cut them into similar lengths, put them
    in a straight-sided container, and cover with water. Add water as
    needed.

    Store-brand frozen veggies in the 16-32 ounce bags can be a real boon,
    since they will last several months, can be used as needed, and
    clipped closed to avoid freezer burn.

    Best of luck with school
    maxine in ri

  13. (Glitter Ninja) said:

    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer?

    I can only help with one thing, but that's better than nothing, huh?

    I have found that if I slice green onions/scallions and toss the slices
    into a baggie, they stay fresh much, much longer than the same onions
    stored whole. Very convenient for salads or fried rice.

    Carol

    --
    Coming at you live, from beautiful Lake Woebegon

  14. "Glitter" wrote:
    "
    Any hints on keeping
    things a little fresher longer"

    Hi, Glitter,
    I find that lettuce keeps at least a week if you keep it in a plastic
    container with a flexible lid, and BURP it whenever you open it.
    I use Rubbermaid plastic containers in the shape of a shoebox, only a
    little smaller. Wash and shake dry your lettuce and put in the box.
    (First, I put some of that red plastic mesh netting that produce comes
    in. It washes nicely in the dishwasher if you tuck it down into one of
    the spaces meant for forks, spoons. This keeps the lettuce off the
    bottom.)
    To BURP the box, put on the lid, then lift up one of the corners
    with one hand while pushing down on the lid with the other hand, then
    quickly close it. This keeps some of the air out of the container.
    Really , it works wonders.
    Because they can take up space in the fridge, I put them on end, on
    the top shelf of the fridge. Later, I pour out the water that has
    gathered in the bottom of the container. You letttuce will stay
    unbelievably crisp. !!

    Sounds like you work very hard. Good luck!
    Cheers, Nancree

  15. "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy,
    lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer?

    I'm not sure about the berries, you will probably be better off using
    longer lasting fruits, apples, oranges, etc. Peel and core one of each
    of them, cut into cubes and mix together like a salad. The citrus orange
    seems to keep the apples fresher longer. Leave the rest until later.
    The mushrooms do stay better in a paper bag, but even then don't expect
    them to be fit for a fresh salad after a few days. After that you can
    still cook with them or for that matter, slice and sauté all that you
    have left in olive oil, and store back in the refrigerator for another
    few days. Add them to eggs, meatloaf, burgers, etc.
    Now lettuce I may be able to help there. I haven't thrown out any
    lettuce, to speak of, for the last ten years. When your market sells
    lettuce for so much a head, instead of per pound, you have a tendency to
    pick the largest and heaviest, don't do it. Instead pick heads that feel
    light in your hand. Heavy feeling heads will be tight and yellow in the
    middle, you'll find it practically unusable, when you get there and
    you'll end up throwing out the central part anyway. Find a "Lettuce
    keeper" at your local department store. It is a large ball shaped,
    transparent plastic bowl, with a tight fitting, round lid, or use any
    covered plastic bowl that your head of lettuce will fit into and still
    allow a tight seal. Peel off the outer leaves of the head until you get
    rid of the brownish outer leaves. With a sharp knife slice off the
    bottom of the central stem. Lay a paper towel in the bottom of the bowl
    or keeper and add a couple of spoons of water onto the towel. The head
    should be wet when going into the keeper, and try to keep the raw end of
    the stem down on the wet towel. Cover it and let it sit for a day or so.
    When you take the first leaves off they should feel exceptionally crisp
    and fresh. In effect, what you are doing is keeping the head of lettuce
    alive and growing inside the keeper. It will stay crisp and delicious
    for weeks, as long as you keep it covered and moist inside.

    And of course, this is all IMHO, good luck.

    Geno from Sacramento

    Or some

    Quoted message said:

    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK
    if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

  16. "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy,
    lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer?

    I'm not sure about the berries, you will probably be better off using
    longer lasting fruits, apples, oranges, etc. Peel and core one of each
    of them, cut into cubes and mix together like a salad. The citrus orange
    seems to keep the apples fresher longer. Leave the rest until later.
    The mushrooms do stay better in a paper bag, but even then don't expect
    them to be fit for a fresh salad after a few days. After that you can
    still cook with them or for that matter, slice and sauté all that you
    have left in olive oil, and store back in the refrigerator for another
    few days. Add them to eggs, meatloaf, burgers, etc.
    Now lettuce I may be able to help there. I haven't thrown out any
    lettuce, to speak of, for the last ten years. When your market sells
    lettuce for so much a head, instead of per pound, you have a tendency to
    pick the largest and heaviest, don't do it. Instead pick heads that feel
    light in your hand. Heavy feeling heads will be tight and yellow in the
    middle, you'll find it practically unusable, when you get there and
    you'll end up throwing out the central part anyway. Find a "Lettuce
    keeper" at your local department store. It is a large ball shaped,
    transparent plastic bowl, with a tight fitting, round lid, or use any
    covered plastic bowl that your head of lettuce will fit into and still
    allow a tight seal. Peel off the outer leaves of the head until you get
    rid of the brownish outer leaves. With a sharp knife slice off the
    bottom of the central stem. Lay a paper towel in the bottom of the bowl
    or keeper and add a couple of spoons of water onto the towel. The head
    should be wet when going into the keeper, and try to keep the raw end of
    the stem down on the wet towel. Cover it and let it sit for a day or so.
    When you take the first leaves off they should feel exceptionally crisp
    and fresh. In effect, what you are doing is keeping the head of lettuce
    alive and growing inside the keeper. It will stay crisp and delicious
    for weeks, as long as you keep it covered and moist inside.

    And of course, this is all IMHO, good luck.

    Geno from Sacramento

    Or some

    Quoted message said:

    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK
    if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

  17. "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

    There are several points.

    The first thing you need to do is check the temperature of your fridge.

    Lettuce should last longer the first rule is never cut the head of lettuce.
    Tear off as much as you think you'll need the you can use a knife on the stuff
    for today.

    Wash the berries just before eating them - don't wash them when you first get
    home.

    If you're only concerned with flavor, freeze the mushrooms or buy dried ones.
    Cooked shrooms will last much longer then fresh ones. do not buy the presliced
    ones the whole ones seem to last longer.

    Good luck

    Dimitri

  18. "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I know this thread comes up once every six months or so, but I'm
    planning on being a stay-at-home student-like being for a while, and
    part of the way we can afford this is if I do the cooking instead of
    fast or frozen foods.
    Main dishes I have down, and some sides like pasta, rice, frozen
    veggies. But when we shop once a week, fresh items tend to go bad
    quickly, before I have a chance to use them. Berries get moldy, lettuce
    turns sentient, and mushrooms get positively angry.
    Any hints on keeping things a little fresher longer? Or some
    substitutes for fresh? (Yeah, I know, canned mushrooms, which are OK if
    you like slime chunks in slime juice with added slime flavoring.)
    Basically, gimme all your advice. All your advice belong to me!

    Stacia

    There are several points.

    The first thing you need to do is check the temperature of your fridge.

    Lettuce should last longer the first rule is never cut the head of lettuce.
    Tear off as much as you think you'll need the you can use a knife on the stuff
    for today.

    Wash the berries just before eating them - don't wash them when you first get
    home.

    If you're only concerned with flavor, freeze the mushrooms or buy dried ones.
    Cooked shrooms will last much longer then fresh ones. do not buy the presliced
    ones the whole ones seem to last longer.

    Good luck

    Dimitri

  19. Dimitri wrote on 27 Jun 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    If you're only concerned with flavor, freeze the mushrooms or buy
    dried ones. Cooked shrooms will last much longer then fresh ones.
    do not buy the presliced ones the whole ones seem to last longer.

    Good luck

    Dimitri

    Buy the large button mushrooms and grill them...great sliced in
    for salads for several days...excellent as a sidedish that night.

    --
    It's not a question of where he grips it!
    It's a simple question of weight ratios!

    A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

    Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

  20. Glitter Ninja said:
    The Joneses said:

    mushrooms with a few days of purchase. Also have dried which I crumble into
    foods instead of whole. I believe those green plastic bags for produce
    actually work pretty well as long as the foods are not overly damp.

    Hmm, two people have mentioned dried shrooms. Are they not slimey
    when you hydrate them? I just assumed since they were wet, they would
    get that slimey filmy thing going on.
    I can't wait until I am a hausfrau again. I've been working major
    overtime constantly for 4 1/2 years and have almost forgotten how to
    cook.

    Stacia

    My dried shrooms are crispy. That's why I crumble or chop- get all the flavor &
    aroma and not the sliminess. The chewy bits might even be desirable. I like the
    powdered up ones in scrambled eggs.
    Funny being a hausfrau - I don't have the need to get everything done so I don't
    do it As fast anyway.
    Edrena

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