stands- Park or Ultimate?

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Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a
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Ultimate BRS-70B

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Park PCS-1 (newer version with hight adjustment)

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Looking at using them mostly with traditional round tube
frames, and one Garry FisherY frame. While I know they
should be used on the seat post, there are the odd times
you want to hold the frame. Any chance of either

of

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them working on the Y frame?

Also I intend to use it pretty much at home- basement or
outdoors.

Thinking

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that the ultimate tripod would be nice for outdoor uneven
surfaces, but

you

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may be tripping over the legs, and I'm not sure how the
legs would like

mud

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from washing bikes on it. For the park I know the head
and sliding

support

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post slide out of the base, so i'm tempted to hammer a
post in the back

yard

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and slide the unit over it when I want to wash the bike or
work outside.

TIA for the input

F. Plant

I had the Ultimate BRS-70B for a couple of years until my
wife misjudged the length of the tripod legs while pulling
her car into the gargage... I have since bought the Ultimate
Pro (one step up from the Ultimate BRS-70B). When shopping
for a new stand I looked at both the Park that you are
looking at above and the Ultimate. In my opinion either of
the Ultimate's will be better than the Park. Yes, I was in
the store mounting bikes onto both of the stands looking at
stability. In my opinion the Ultimates are better stands.

The Ultimates also fold up for better transportation...
(great for 24 Hours of Moab ect...). I bought my
Ultimate Pro from Performance for $160.00 US on sale.
The Pro is natually a little nicer than the Consumer,
both will do the job.

You may want to check out www.mtbr.com for a review. No
matter what bike stand you buy none of them hold up well to
a wife with a car...

-p

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I've got a similar - but not identical one.

Two things I like:

- It collapses/folds conveniently - no L-shaped legs
hanging out
- It's *really* stable - in all directions.

The clamp on mine, however, is different from the one in
the pic. Mine has no lever, just a knob and on a PITA scale
of 1-10, it's definately a 9.7. You're standing there with
32 lbs of bike in one hand, trying to push the jaws closed
with the other hand, and the fushluggener thing jams about
70% of the time.
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PeteCresswell

F. Plant said:

Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a
chance to use them and has opinions. Watch for wrap.
Ultimate BRS-70B

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Park PCS-1 (newer version with hight adjustment)

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Looking at using them mostly with traditional round tube
frames, and one Garry FisherY frame. While I know they
should be used on the seat post, there are the odd times
you want to hold the frame. Any chance of either of them
working on the Y frame?

Also I intend to use it pretty much at home- basement or
outdoors. Thinking that the ultimate tripod would be nice
for outdoor uneven surfaces, but you may be tripping over
the legs, and I'm not sure how the legs would like mud
from washing bikes on it. For the park I know the head and
sliding support post slide out of the base, so i'm tempted
to hammer a post in the back yard and slide the unit over
it when I want to wash the bike or work outside.

TIA for the input

F. Plant

I bought the BRS-70B in favor of the Park stands for
stability, foldability (is that a word?) and price. I tried
both of them and the store and the Park tended to fall over
backwards with a bike mounted.

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- Zilla Cary, NC (Remove XSPAM)

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Looking at using them mostly with traditional round tube
frames, and one Garry FisherY frame. While I know they
should be used on the seat post, there are the odd times
you want to hold the frame. Any chance of either of them
working on the Y frame?

Also I intend to use it pretty much at home- basement or
outdoors. Thinking that the ultimate tripod would be nice
for outdoor uneven surfaces, but you may be tripping over
the legs, and I'm not sure how the legs would like mud
from washing bikes on it. For the park I know the head and
sliding support post slide out of the base, so i'm tempted
to hammer a post in the back yard and slide the unit over
it when I want to wash the bike or work outside.

TIA for the input

F. Plant

I have the Park PRS-5, which is a pretty good stand, is
portable, you can take it to races, whatever. But I love
the Ultimates, which happen to load so much easier than any
of the Park models. My mobile bike shop buddy uses the
Ultimate Pro, and it's really slick and easy, stable, and
just better, imo, than the Parks, even though I have one
and use it a lot.

paladin

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I have the PCS-1. It is OK - I need to pack to het it to
grip my seat post (Marin Hawk Hill) but my wife's Trek
3500 is OK.
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Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a
chance to use them and has opinions. Watch for wrap.
Ultimate BRS-70B

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Park PCS-1 (newer version with hight adjustment)

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Looking at using them mostly with traditional round tube
frames, and one Garry FisherY frame. While I know they
should be used on the seat post, there are the odd times
you want to hold the frame. Any chance of either

of

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them working on the Y frame?

Also I intend to use it pretty much at home- basement or
outdoors.

Thinking

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that the ultimate tripod would be nice for outdoor uneven
surfaces, but

you

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may be tripping over the legs, and I'm not sure how the
legs would like

mud

Quoted message said:

from washing bikes on it. For the park I know the head
and sliding

support

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post slide out of the base, so i'm tempted to hammer a
post in the back

yard

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and slide the unit over it when I want to wash the bike or
work outside.

TIA for the input

F. Plant

After all the Park negativity, I should mention my cheap-ass
PCS-1 grips everything I've ever put near it. It grips it
easily and it grips it well. Also, I don't know how you guys
work on bikes, but I've never had the feeling it was going
to tip over. So for whatever that's worth, there you go.

Chris

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After all the Park negativity, I should mention my cheap-
ass PCS-1 grips everything I've ever put near it. It
grips it easily and it grips it well. Also, I don't know
how you guys work on bikes, but I've never had the
feeling it was going to tip over. So for whatever that's
worth, there you go.

Chris

I've never used anything but the PCS-1, but I can say that
it has it's limits when doing certain maintenance chores.
Stubborn crank bolts or bottom brackets that need a little
extra emphasis to loosen up can sometimes overcome the
stability limits on the PCS-1. For anything else, and just
plain storage, it's a fine piece of gear.

Tom

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Chris said:

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After all the Park negativity, I should mention my cheap-
ass PCS-1 grips everything I've ever put near it. It
grips it easily and it grips it well. Also, I don't know
how you guys work on bikes, but I've never had the
feeling it was going to tip over. So for whatever that's
worth, there you go.

Chris

I've never used anything but the PCS-1, but I can say that
it has it's limits when doing certain maintenance chores.
Stubborn crank bolts or bottom brackets that need a little
extra emphasis to loosen up can

sometimes

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overcome the stability limits on the PCS-1. For anything
else, and just plain storage, it's a fine piece of gear.

I like my PRS-5, but like others have mentioned before,
because of the plastic pieces, it can be a little unstable.
I got it with the idea of bringing it with me on road trips.

One day, I wanna get one of these.

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I had a Park PCS-1 and it suited my home needs. It held the
bike well and felt stable. I was lucky enough to get a good
deal on EBAY a few years ago and picked up a PRS-02. Either
way you go, some good deals can be found on EBAY.

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Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a
chance to use them and has opinions. Watch for wrap.
Ultimate BRS-70B

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Park PCS-1 (newer version with hight adjustment)

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Looking at using them mostly with traditional round tube
frames, and one Garry FisherY frame. While I know they
should be used on the seat post, there are the odd times
you want to hold the frame. Any chance of either

of

Quoted message said:

them working on the Y frame?

Also I intend to use it pretty much at home- basement or
outdoors.

Thinking

Quoted message said:

that the ultimate tripod would be nice for outdoor uneven
surfaces, but

you

Quoted message said:

may be tripping over the legs, and I'm not sure how the
legs would like

mud

Quoted message said:

from washing bikes on it. For the park I know the head
and sliding

support

Quoted message said:

post slide out of the base, so i'm tempted to hammer a
post in the back

yard

Quoted message said:

and slide the unit over it when I want to wash the bike or
work outside.

TIA for the input

F. Plant

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Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a
chance to use them and has opinions. Watch for wrap.
Ultimate BRS-70B

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Park PCS-1 (newer version with hight adjustment)

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Lots of feedback, thanks! Actually suprized to see such good
opinion of ultimate vs park (which I had been leaning
towards). My initial thoughts were that the ultimate had
more fiddlly parts which could wear, fail etc, but given the
feedback I guess that is not really an issue. Think that
with the ultimate it wins hands down in the pack it to the
trailhead competition. Just not sure how often I'd do that.
For around home use I'm still a bit leary of tripping over
the tripod legs though. Stability wise for the park I've
been told that for crank arms etc its easy enough to stand
on one of the legs while you are torquing on things.

It sounds like I should be giving the ultimate a second
look, so I'll have to get by a store and have a look at
these 2 side by side.

F. Plant

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The Ultimates also fold up for better transportation...
(great for 24

Hours

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of Moab ect...). I bought my Ultimate Pro from Performance
for $160.00 US

on

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sale. The Pro is natually a little nicer than the
Consumer, both will do

the

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job.

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Pippen, How do you find the head for folding it down? Do you
take it off or leave sticking out? If you take it off how
much of a bother is it?

Thanks F.Plant

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The Ultimates also fold up for better transportation...
(great for 24

Hours

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of Moab ect...). I bought my Ultimate Pro from
Performance for $160.00

US

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on

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sale. The Pro is natually a little nicer than the
Consumer, both will do

the

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job.

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Pippen, How do you find the head for folding it down? Do
you take it off or leave sticking out? If you take it off
how much of a bother is it?

Thanks F.Plant

It's simple to fold down when transporting... Loosen the
knob on the back, fold it down and tighten the knob... Much
simpler that it may look.

If you have the opportunity to compare side by side do so...

-p

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Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a chance
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Lots of feedback, thanks! Actually suprized to see such
good opinion of ultimate vs park (which I had been leaning
towards). My initial thoughts were that the ultimate had
more fiddlly parts which could wear, fail etc, but given
the feedback I guess that is not really an issue. Think
that with the ultimate it wins hands down in the pack it
to the trailhead competition. Just not sure how often I'd
do that. For around home use I'm still a bit leary of
tripping over the tripod legs though. Stability wise for
the park I've been told that for crank arms etc its easy
enough to stand on one of the legs while you are torquing
on things.

It sounds like I should be giving the ultimate a second
look, so I'll have to get by a store and have a look at
these 2 side by side.

F. Plant

I might add, the only thing I don't like about my Ultimate
is the clamp for the telescoping vertical bar is hard as
hell to tighten, it's a thumb buster. The Ultimate folks
said a Salsa quick-release will work in place of, but I've
yet to do that. Also I wish it had a clamp instead of a
twist mechanism to hold the bike, but I can deal with that.
Clamp mechanisms have their own issues is guess, but since
I've never owned one, I can't say for sure.

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Looking at 2 stands and wonder if anyone has had a
chance to use them and has opinions. Watch for wrap.
Ultimate BRS-70B

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Went and looked at both. Store recommended the ultimate due
to higher clamping preasure. Ended up going with the
ultimate due to compact nature and large # of
recommendations.

F. Plant