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  1. If after stage 19 the time gap between the Tour leader and the second place rider of the GC is only
    60 seconds, will they fight for the final placing during the final stage (stage 20) - I thought
    normally stage 20 are for the sprinters?

    Has there ever been such a close time difference between the leader and the second place rider in
    the Tour, and that the winner determined by the final stage?

  2. "Ian" <"Ian"@nospam.com> a écrit dans le message de news: [email hidden]...

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    If after stage 19 the time gap between the Tour leader and the second place rider of the GC is
    only 60 seconds, will they fight for the


    final

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    placing during the final stage (stage 20) - I thought normally stage


    20

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    are for the sprinters?

    Has there ever been such a close time difference between the leader


    and

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    the second place rider in the Tour, and that the winner determined by the final stage?

    In 1979 Zootemelk was 2nd to Hinault before the last stage. He tried to escape at the Champ-Elysees
    stage to gain time over Hinault. Hinault came back to catch him and won the stage and the tour.

    --
    Ron

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    "Ian" <"Ian"@nospam.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    If after stage 19 the time gap between the Tour leader and the second place rider of the GC is
    only 60 seconds, will they fight for the final placing during the final stage (stage 20) - I
    thought normally stage 20 are for the sprinters?

    Quoted message said:

    In 1979 Zootemelk was 2nd to Hinault before the last stage. He tried to escape at the
    Champ-Elysees stage to gain time over Hinault. Hinault came back to catch him and won the stage
    and the tour.

    But the fight in 1979 wasn't about winning the tour. It was about the stage alone. Hinault won that
    tour by more than 13 minutes.

  4. Ian said:

    Has there ever been such a close time difference between the leader and the second place rider in
    the Tour, and that the winner determined by the final stage?

    In 1989, Greg Lemond was behind Laurent Fignon (83&84 champ) by 50 seconds going into the final
    stage, a 15 mile time trial. Lemond won the stage by 58 seconds and the tour by 8 seconds. I believe
    it's the smallest margin in TdF history.

    --Bill Davidson
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    Please remove ".nospam" from my address for email replies.

    I'm a 17 year veteran of usenet -- you'd think I'd be over it by now

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    "Ron D." <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    "Ian" <"Ian"@nospam.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    If after stage 19 the time gap between the Tour leader and the


    second

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    place rider of the GC is only 60 seconds, will they fight for the final placing during the
    final stage (stage 20) - I thought


    normally

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    stage 20 are for the sprinters?

    Quoted message said:

    In 1979 Zootemelk was 2nd to Hinault before the last stage. He tried to escape at the
    Champ-Elysees stage to gain time over


    Hinault.

    Quoted message said:
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    Hinault came back to catch him and won the stage and the tour.

    But the fight in 1979 wasn't about winning the tour. It was about the stage alone. Hinault won
    that tour by more than 13 minutes.

    Not exactly. Zootemelk was only 3 min behind Hinault. Once the race was over he was awarded a 10 min
    penalti for a reason I don't remember exactly, it may be something close to a positive test or
    something (not too sure there).

    --
    Ron

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    "Martin Recker" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    "Ron D." <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Ian" <"Ian"@nospam.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    > If after stage 19 the time gap between the Tour leader and the


    second

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    Quoted message said:

    > place rider of the GC is only 60 seconds, will they fight for


    the

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    > final placing during the final stage (stage 20) - I thought


    normally

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    > stage 20 are for the sprinters?

    Quoted message said:

    In 1979 Zootemelk was 2nd to Hinault before the last stage. He tried to escape at the
    Champ-Elysees stage to gain time over


    Hinault.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hinault came back to catch him and won the stage and the tour.

    But the fight in 1979 wasn't about winning the tour. It was about


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    stage alone. Hinault won that tour by more than 13 minutes.

    Not exactly. Zootemelk was only 3 min behind Hinault. Once the race was over he was awarded a 10
    min penalti for a reason I don't remember exactly, it may be something close to a positive test


    or

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    something (not too sure there).

    --
    Ron

    More about it on this link (in French)

    memoire-du-cyclisme.nettdf1979 24.php

    --
    Ron

  7. "Ron D." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Ron D." <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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    More about it on this link (in French)

    memoire-du-cyclisme.nettdf1979 24.php

    Thank you.

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