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  1. Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on today (actually
    2.165 inches), and they provide an interesting ride on my local rocky/sandy desert trails.

    This is my first try at "high volume" tires, and I'm not sure what I was expecting, but they remind
    me of an ATV tire...kinda bouncy. They did appear to give a bit more cushion, and be a TON more
    resistive to pinch flats.

    Cornering and climbing traction was decent, but not superb.

    They have potential. It'll be interesting to see what I think of them after I've had a chance to
    dial in my riding style and air pressure.

    Gman

  2. Gman said:

    Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on today (actually
    2.165 inches), and they provide an interesting ride on my local rocky/sandy desert trails.

    This is my first try at "high volume" tires, and I'm not sure what I was expecting, but they
    remind me of an ATV tire...kinda bouncy. They did appear to give a bit more cushion, and be a TON
    more resistive to pinch flats.

    Cornering and climbing traction was decent, but not superb.

    They have potential. It'll be interesting to see what I think of them after I've had a chance to
    dial in my riding style and air pressure.

    Gman

    I have been running the big fat Geax Sedonas on my SS and I absolutely love them. They are listed as
    2.25" but they are bigger than most brands' 2.4-2.5" tires. Still light, though, at 640g.

    Miles

  3. Gman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on today (actually
    2.165 inches), and they provide an interesting ride on my local rocky/sandy desert trails.

    This is my first try at "high volume" tires, and I'm not sure what I was expecting, but they
    remind me of an ATV tire...kinda bouncy. They did appear to give a bit more cushion, and be a TON
    more resistive to pinch flats.

    Cornering and climbing traction was decent, but not superb.

    They have potential. It'll be interesting to see what I think of them after I've had a chance to
    dial in my riding style and air pressure.

    Gman

    Put them down around 20lbs, throw a 40lb pack on your back, and let's race. Might be closer that
    way. Good riding up by Stanley Lake this last wknd, btw.

    Paladin

  4. Gman said:

    Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on today (actually
    2.165 inches), and they provide an interesting ride on my local rocky/sandy desert trails.

    This is my first try at "high volume" tires, and I'm not sure what I was expecting, but they remind
    me of an ATV tire...kinda bouncy. They did appear to give a bit more cushion, and be a TON more
    resistive to pinch flats.

    Cornering and climbing traction was decent, but not superb.

    They have potential. It'll be interesting to see what I think of them after I've had a chance to
    dial in my riding style and air pressure.

    Gman

    Gman, for what it's worth, I love the tires. I was used to riding on
    1.95's. With a fully rigid they add a lot of shock absorbtion. Sometimes it feels like they may fold
    on a tight turn but I've gotten used to that also. I run them at a very low pressure as measured
    by my thumb and forefinger. I haven't pinched yet even though I've bottomed them out. They're
    absolutely great in the mud and good on rocks. So far the sidewalls look to be hanging in there
    just fine. I'd estimate I have somewhere around 300 miles on them. Time will ultimately tell The
    mind serves properly as a window glass rather than as a reflector, that is, the mind should give
    an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
    :-]

  5. miles todd <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Gman said:

    Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on today (actually
    2.165 inches), and they provide an interesting ride on my local rocky/sandy desert trails.

    This is my first try at "high volume" tires, and I'm not sure what I was expecting, but they
    remind me of an ATV tire...kinda bouncy. They did appear to give a bit more cushion, and be a
    TON more resistive to pinch flats.

    Cornering and climbing traction was decent, but not superb.

    They have potential. It'll be interesting to see what I think of them after I've had a chance to
    dial in my riding style and air pressure.

    Gman

    I have been running the big fat Geax Sedonas on my SS and I absolutely love them. They are listed
    as 2.25" but they are bigger than most brands' 2.4-2.5" tires. Still light, though, at 640g.

    Miles

    I've noticed alot of people running wider tires on their single speeds. Any particular reason?

  6. Quoted message said:

    miles todd <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Gman said:

    Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on today (actually
    2.165 inches), and they provide an interesting ride on my local rocky/sandy desert trails.

    This is my first try at "high volume" tires, and I'm not sure what I was expecting, but they
    remind me of an ATV tire...kinda bouncy. They did appear to give a bit more cushion, and be a TON
    more resistive to pinch flats.

    Cornering and climbing traction was decent, but not superb.

    They have potential. It'll be interesting to see what I think of them after I've had a chance to
    dial in my riding style and air pressure.

    Gman

    I have been running the big fat Geax Sedonas on my SS and I absolutely love them. They are listed
    as 2.25" but they are bigger than most brands' 2.4-2.5" tires. Still light, though, at 640g.

    Miles

    I've noticed alot of people running wider tires on their single speeds. Any particular reason?

    For me, more traction. Maybe for some others, to fake a little suspension. Perhaps, too, some do it
    because it looks cool (and we all know singlespeeding is all about looking cool).

    Miles

  7. miles todd <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Gman said:

    Got the 2.4 WTB Mutano Raptors on


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I have been running the big fat Geax Sedonas on my SS and I absolutely love them. They are listed
    as 2.25" but they are bigger than most brands' 2.4-2.5" tires. Still light, though, at 640g.

    Miles

    I ran the 2.0 Geax Blades for a while and really liked them, except that they weren't fat enough. I
    think the 2.25" Geax blades might be a very good SS tire. Geax seems to adhere pretty closely to the
    advertised tire sizes, whereas my 2.4" WTB Mutano Raptors are actually
    2.165". What's funny is that WTB readily admits this with the metric measurements (55/55) stamped
    right on the tire next to the "2.4".

    I'm not sure exactly who they are trying to fool with that. 🙂 I guess the idea is to have a very
    light tire in the "2.4 inch" size.

    I will admit that the Mutanos are quite tall. Even if they aren't actually 2.4" wide, I think they
    are probably taller than a lot of
    3.25" tires.

    G

  8. Bill Wheeler said:

    Gman, for what it's worth, I love the tires. I was used to riding on
    1.95's. With a fully rigid they add a lot of shock absorbtion. Sometimes it feels like they may
    fold on a tight turn but I've gotten used to that also. I run them at a very low pressure as
    measured by my thumb and forefinger.

    JD warned me about this phenomena also. I experienced it today. I ran the front tire at 25
    psi and the rear at 30 on a mixture of sandy, rocky, and hard pack. When diving hard into a corner
    that has some hard pack the soft front tire rolls farily significantly in a disconcerting manner.
    I don't think the tire will come off the rim, but it is certainly not confidence inspiring.

    I'm reasonably sure this is due to the tires very tall profile. I'm also reasonably sure I'll be
    able to get the tire dialed in, but there may also be better out there for my particular
    application.

    G

  9. Gman said:
    Bill Wheeler said:

    Gman, for what it's worth, I love the tires. I was used to riding on
    1.95's. With a fully rigid they add a lot of shock absorbtion. Sometimes it feels like they may
    fold on a tight turn but I've gotten used to that also. I run them at a very low pressure as
    measured by my thumb and forefinger.

    JD warned me about this phenomena also. I experienced it today. I ran the front tire at 25
    psi and the rear at 30 on a mixture of sandy, rocky, and hard pack. When diving hard into a corner
    that has some hard pack the soft front tire rolls farily significantly in a disconcerting manner.
    I don't think the tire will come off the rim, but it is certainly not confidence inspiring.

    I'm reasonably sure this is due to the tires very tall profile. I'm also reasonably sure I'll be
    able to get the tire dialed in, but there may also be better out there for my particular
    application.

    G


    Yeah, it's a little scary, having the front roll on you in a turn. I've adjusted my riding and
    definitely go slower into sharp turns.

    One of these days I'll find that lost testicle.

    Peace, Bill The mind serves properly as a window glass rather than as a reflector, that is, the mind
    should give an immediate view instead of an interpretation of the world.
    :-]

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