Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
That's what I like about them. You can keep that finger on the brake lever and still shift.
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
I've got a question about the XT front derailleur I have, and front derailleurs in general:
Why do they insist on making the parts that contact the chain out of a ferrous metal that rusts? The critical parts seem to be chromed steel, not stainless. The chain rubs against the chrome, exposes bare metal, and if you live in a wet climate it soon rusts.
Why don't they use an alloy, or stainless? Cost I suppose...
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LIBERATOR said:
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
I've got a question about the XT front derailleur I have, and front derailleurs in general:
Why do they insist on making the parts that contact the chain out of a ferrous metal that rusts? The critical parts seem to be chromed steel, not stainless. The chain rubs against the chrome, exposes bare metal, and if you live in a wet climate it soon rusts.
Why don't they use an alloy, or stainless? Cost I suppose...
In all my time with bicycles, I have never had that part wear out, and I live in Lancashire, North England, where it's wet as hell. So what's the problem?
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
If you'd ever ridden a mountain bike, toolbox, then you would realize that one never has the need to shift up and down simultaneously, and that the time required to move your thumb from one lever to the other is trivial.
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I've got a question about the XT front derailleur I have, and front derailleurs in general:
Why do they insist on making the parts that contact the chain out of a ferrous metal that rusts? The critical parts seem to be chromed steel, not stainless. The chain rubs against the chrome, exposes bare metal, and if you live in a wet climate it soon rusts.
Why don't they use an alloy, or stainless? Cost I suppose...
In all my time with bicycles, I have never had that part wear out, and I live in Lancashire, North England, where it's wet as hell. So what's the problem?
Shaun aRe
And gritty too when I've ridden in Lancashire. The rate at which chains and cassettes can be destroyed by gritty mud in the UK is scary (and it's not even that gritty in my bit of the Midlands).
I've not had a FD cage rust, only discolour slightly. Any rust staining which has appeared seems to have arised from mud/grit/goo transferred fro the chain. -- Tim.
If you'd ever ridden a mountain bike, toolbox, then you would realize that one never has the need to shift up and down simultaneously, and that the time required to move your thumb from one lever to the other is trivial.
Since A.M-B traffic consists almost entirely of the same 20 or so posters, couldn't we all just agree to ignore this demented troll?
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I've got a question about the XT front derailleur I have, and front derailleurs in general:
Why do they insist on making the parts that contact the chain out of a ferrous metal that rusts? The critical parts seem to be chromed steel, not stainless. The chain rubs against the chrome, exposes bare metal, and if you live in a wet climate it soon rusts.
Why don't they use an alloy, or stainless? Cost I suppose...
In all my time with bicycles, I have never had that part wear out, and I live in Lancashire, North England, where it's wet as hell. So what's the problem?
Shaun aRe
And gritty too when I've ridden in Lancashire. The rate at which chains and cassettes can be destroyed by gritty mud in the UK is scary (and it's not even that gritty in my bit of the Midlands).
I've not had a FD cage rust, only discolour slightly. Any rust staining which has appeared seems to have arised from mud/grit/goo transferred fro the chain.
Yes, it won't wear out, just cosmetics, I can live with it 🙂
Roadsalt's a problem too, it eats parts. Just wondered why they didn't use a higher spec bit of metal for the inner cage. Only baremetal exposed by chainrub was rusting, not the whole inner cage. I recognise your point about rust transfer from the chain, but after a clean I'm sure I still saw native rust. I could be wrong, if someone tells me the part literally can't rust I'll believe 'em.
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If you'd ever ridden a mountain bike, toolbox, then you would realize that one never has the need to shift up and down simultaneously, and that the time required to move your thumb from one lever to the other is trivial.
Since A.M-B traffic consists almost entirely of the same 20 or so posters, couldn't we all just agree to ignore this demented troll?
If you'd ever ridden a mountain bike, toolbox, then you would realize that one never has the need to shift up and down simultaneously, and that the time required to move your thumb from one lever to the other is trivial.
Since A.M-B traffic consists almost entirely of the same 20 or so posters, couldn't we all just agree to ignore this demented troll?
Pffftttt! I actually enjoy the psycho babble. I am just amazed that a homeless person has the money to actually purchase gear. He's bought gloves and a derailleur in the last month. Must be using his medication money that the gubment give him.
Pffftttt! I actually enjoy the psycho babble. I am just amazed that a homeless person has the money to actually purchase gear. He's bought gloves and a derailleur in the last month. Must be using his medication money that the gubment give him.
Now Ride-Sidewalks-Only, I have been nice to you lately, you seem to want to change that eh?
Pffftttt! I actually enjoy the psycho babble. I am just amazed that a homeless person has the money to actually purchase gear. He's bought gloves and a derailleur in the last month. Must be using his medication money that the gubment give him.
Now Ride-Sidewalks-Only, I have been nice to you lately, you seem to want to change that eh?
Nice? Hey, when are we going to go riding at Apex? I was in Denver yesterday looking for you.
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
That's what I like about them. You can keep that finger on the brake lever and still shift.
Mike
Think about what you just said. If you could not keep your right 3 fingers on your brake lever, and your index finger on the downshift and the thumb on the upshift all at one time, you cannot possibly be a good MTBer.
At one time you should be able to have all 3 manned.
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
I switched to Sram a year ago..... took about two minutes to get used to. Never looked back.
You like apples, others like oranges - big deal, buy shimano stuff.
Pffftttt! I actually enjoy the psycho babble. I am just amazed that a homeless person has the money to actually purchase gear. He's bought gloves and a derailleur in the last month. Must be using his medication money that the gubment give him.
Now Ride-Sidewalks-Only, I have been nice to you lately, you seem to want to change that eh?
Nice? Hey, when are we going to go riding at Apex? I was in Denver yesterday looking for you.
You never said anything to me, yet you know where I hang and where you could have sent me an invite. So why didn't you big boy?
> Pffftttt! I actually enjoy the psycho babble. I am just amazed that a > homeless person has the money to actually purchase gear. He's bought > gloves and a derailleur in the last month. Must be using his medication > money that the gubment give him. Now Ride-Sidewalks-Only, I have been nice to you lately, you seem to want to change that eh?
Nice? Hey, when are we going to go riding at Apex? I was in Denver yesterday looking for you.
You never said anything to me, yet you know where I hang and where you could have sent me an invite. So why didn't you big boy?
Didn't have my bike, but I'll be back real soon and with my bike in tow.
Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a concern?
Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting manned by a finger.
Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano shifters beat SRAM.
That's what I like about them. You can keep that finger on the brake lever and still shift.
Mike
Think about what you just said. If you could not keep your right 3 fingers on your brake lever, and your index finger on the downshift and the thumb on the upshift all at one time, you cannot possibly be a good MTBer.
At one time you should be able to have all 3 manned.
Yeah, what was I thinking?!!! I really suck at this mtb [censored].
LIBERATOR wrote: > Is this a "sensitive" modifcation where special care should be a > concern? > > Also, I tried SRAM X0 and didn't like the fact that you have to use > your thumbs for shifting and can't simultaneously have fingers on > both, you have to use your thumb and can only be on one or the > other. This seems very strange to me that they wouldn't design a > design where like Shimano you can have both down and upshifting > manned by a finger. > > Is the difference between SRAM and Shimano, noticeably different as > to the claims I'm hearing? I didn't see the rapidity I was > expecting in just trying the bike in the parking lot. Shimano > shifters beat SRAM. That's what I like about them. You can keep that finger on the brake lever and still shift.
Mike
Think about what you just said. If you could not keep your right 3 fingers on your brake lever, and your index finger on the downshift and the thumb on the upshift all at one time, you cannot possibly be a good MTBer.
At one time you should be able to have all 3 manned.
Yeah, what was I thinking?!!! I really suck at this mtb [censored].
Pfffffffffttttttt!!!!
He can judge good mountain bikers, but can't figure out how to install and set up a front deraillure.
I suppose I suck to, I've never considered the need to both shift up and down simultaneously. AND I live in Durango, which does not have the incredibly difficult trails that the front range has.
Apex, give me a break, it is not all difficult even if you didn't need to stop every 15 feet for another biker or hiker.
